Dasam Granth Not Authored By Guru Gobind Singh Ji

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source : Shastarvidiya.org

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lao ji,,ehnu dekh lao,,
eh talwaar kali mata nu hara ke rakhsaha ne lut layi c,,
te fer guru mahraj ne rakhshasha nu hara ke eh talwaar apne kol rakh layi,
te fer mata nu daan den nu rakh layi,
par mata eni dar gayi ke mud ke len ayi hi nai, lol
 

preet_singh

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Re: Dasam Granth Not Authored By Guru Go

lao ji,,ehnu dekh lao,,
eh talwaar kali mata nu hara ke rakhsaha ne lut layi c,,
te fer guru mahraj ne rakhshasha nu hara ke eh talwaar apne kol rakh layi,
te fer mata nu daan den nu rakh layi,
par mata eni dar gayi ke mud ke len ayi hi nai, lol

:lol2 :p
 

Mahaj

YodhaFakeeR
der was two group
bandai khalsa and tat khalsa,,
bandai said banda singh bahadr was der guru and tat khalsa said guru granth sahib ji is there guru
soo dona dhiran ne faisla kita ke, ardass krke parchia te likh ke darbar sahib sarovar cha pa ditiya jaan te jehdi parchi tar gayi ohi guru hou ga
fer guru granth sahib ji wali parchi tar gayi....
Par pehlan hi guru gobind singh ji ne gurta gaddi guru granth sahib ji nu de diti c, there was just a conflict between both ends
bahji mae samjea nai tusi ki kehna chaunde..i mentioned bandai khalsa in my previous post
A: wen RULE of banda singh bhadur was established , goverment agencies and others(bandai khalsa) started stating him as 11th nanak (11th guru of sikhs)...
even bandai khalsa still exist ..with its headquaters in kurakshetra....we dont have much in history from 1703 untill the rule of ranjeet singh
 

userid114437

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bahji mae samjea nai tusi ki kehna chaunde..i mentioned bandai khalsa in my previous post
A: wen RULE of banda singh bhadur was established , goverment agencies and others(bandai khalsa) started stating him as 11th nanak (11th guru of sikhs)...
even bandai khalsa still exist ..with its headquaters in kurakshetra....we dont have much in history from 1703 untill the rule of ranjeet singh

After the martyrdom of Baba Banda Singh Bahadur some Sikhs began to regard him (Banda Singh) as Guru. They were called Bandeis. But the strict followers of Guru Gobind Singh, or Tat Khalsa, believed that the system of personal Guruship had ended with the Tenth Guru. The Bandeis began to claim that they should have an equal share in the management of the Gurdwaras and other affairs of the Panth. But the Tat Khalsa refused to accept this claim. They did not favor such divisions in the Panth. Still, the Bandeis persisted in their claim. Much tension was created between the two parties.
Mata Sundri, who was residing at Delhi, became aware of these troubles. She sent Bhai Mani Singh to Amritsar, with Sri Kirpal Singh, the maternal uncle of Guru Gobind Singh. He was charged with the duty of bringing about peace and unity among Singh. He was appointed Granthi (or head priest) of the Darbar Sahib. He was asked to organize the service in the Gurdwara and to manage its affairs. He was further told by her, 'Don't send any money from the offerings to me. The whole income should be spent there. It should be spent in maintaining the service, langar, and other needs of the institution. Bhai Mani Singh and his companion arrived at Amritsar in the beginning of 1721. In the consultation with the notables of the city, they put the affairs of the Gurdwara in order.
A few days later it was the Vaisakhi fair. Elaborate arrangements were made for the grand celebrations. Thousands of Sikhs gathered around the tank. The Tat Khalsa and the Bandeis also gathered in large numbers. They were preparing to come to blows. But Bhai Mani Singh came between them and saved the situation. He suggested that instead of fighting, they should decide their claim by casting lots. He took two slips of paper. On one he wrote, 'Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh'. These words were used by the Tat Khalsa when meeting and saluting each other. On the other slip he wrote, 'Fateh Darshan'. These words were used by the Bandeis for the same purpose. Both slips were immersed in the water at Har Ki Pauri. The agreement was that the party whose slip rose first to the surface, would be considered to have carried the day. For some time neither slip came up to the surface. It seemed as if both the slips had sunk forever. The parties stood in great suspense. At long last, the slip with Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh came to the surface. The Tat Khalsa was declared to have won. The Bandeis took it as the Guru's verdict. They agreed to give up their claim.
In this way, on account of Bhai Mani Singh's wisdom and sweetness, the dispute was settled in a peaceful manner.
 

Mahaj

YodhaFakeeR
After the martyrdom of Baba Banda Singh Bahadur some Sikhs began to regard him (Banda Singh) as Guru. They were called Bandeis. But the strict followers of Guru Gobind Singh, or Tat Khalsa, believed that the system of personal Guruship had ended with the Tenth Guru. The Bandeis began to claim that they should have an equal share in the management of the Gurdwaras and other affairs of the Panth. But the Tat Khalsa refused to accept this claim. They did not favor such divisions in the Panth. Still, the Bandeis persisted in their claim. Much tension was created between the two parties.
Mata Sundri, who was residing at Delhi, became aware of these troubles. She sent Bhai Mani Singh to Amritsar, with Sri Kirpal Singh, the maternal uncle of Guru Gobind Singh. He was charged with the duty of bringing about peace and unity among Singh. He was appointed Granthi (or head priest) of the Darbar Sahib. He was asked to organize the service in the Gurdwara and to manage its affairs. He was further told by her, 'Don't send any money from the offerings to me. The whole income should be spent there. It should be spent in maintaining the service, langar, and other needs of the institution. Bhai Mani Singh and his companion arrived at Amritsar in the beginning of 1721. In the consultation with the notables of the city, they put the affairs of the Gurdwara in order.
A few days later it was the Vaisakhi fair. Elaborate arrangements were made for the grand celebrations. Thousands of Sikhs gathered around the tank. The Tat Khalsa and the Bandeis also gathered in large numbers. They were preparing to come to blows. But Bhai Mani Singh came between them and saved the situation. He suggested that instead of fighting, they should decide their claim by casting lots. He took two slips of paper. On one he wrote, 'Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh'. These words were used by the Tat Khalsa when meeting and saluting each other. On the other slip he wrote, 'Fateh Darshan'. These words were used by the Bandeis for the same purpose. Both slips were immersed in the water at Har Ki Pauri. The agreement was that the party whose slip rose first to the surface, would be considered to have carried the day. For some time neither slip came up to the surface. It seemed as if both the slips had sunk forever. The parties stood in great suspense. At long last, the slip with Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh came to the surface. The Tat Khalsa was declared to have won. The Bandeis took it as the Guru's verdict. They agreed to give up their claim.
In this way, on account of Bhai Mani Singh's wisdom and sweetness, the dispute was settled in a peaceful manner.
exactly...but tusi oda ee duss rahe j k kise sandarb ch dass rahe j ...??
 

Mahaj

YodhaFakeeR
^^ yes yes ...open this thread again ...lol long time since i heard pps bhaji too lol ....say sumthing please lolol
 

Mahaj

YodhaFakeeR
hahahahahha
bhaji chngai gal aa sago .....sikhan nu mil janda kaaafi kuj.....i like anti dasam ppl ...and thr ignorance lol :D
 
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yaar post ch kafi english aa :an ju mere vas di gal nahi read karni :an koi menu punjabi jahi ch dasu :pr

ke eh sahi aa Dasam Granth Not Authored By Guru Gobind Singh Ji ::-?

dhanwad
 
dove posta same same lagea tahi coment v same aaa

ik sawal dasam garanth virodiea nu ki
dasam granth vich kinea baneia ne je tuhanu pata ta post da jawab deo.... tuhanu kuj sawal puchne ne je tuhanu nahi pata kuj. Fe kuj kehan di lorh ne ....awe panni wich madani ni feri di yarrro......
je tusi mere swala de jawab de dite ta ho sakda mai man jawa ke dasam granth guru gobind singh ji di rachna nahi aaa ......
mai eh ni kehna cahuda yarro ki mai gyani aa mainu sabh pata but panni wich madani appa v nahi feri de bai....

ਫਰੀਦਾ ਜੋ ਤੈ ਮਾਰਨਿ ਮੁਕੀਆਂ ਤਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹਾ ਨ ਮਾਰੇ ਘੁੰਮਿ ॥ ਆਪਨੜੈ ਘਰਿ ਜਾਈਐ ਪੈਰ ਤਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹਾ ਦੇ ਚੁੰਮਿ ॥੭॥ {ਪੰਨਾ 1378}
 
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ਆਖਰ ਮੈਨੂੰ ਮੇਰੇ ਸਵਾਲ ਦਾ ਜਵਾਬ ਮਿਲ ਹੀ ਗਿਆ
ਇੱਥੇ ਕੁਝ ਜਾਣਕਾਰੀ ਮਿਲਣ ਤੋ ਬਾਆਦ ਮੈ ਪਿੰਡ ਦੇ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਕੋਲ ਗਿਆ ਤੇ ਉਸਨੂੰ ਪੁੱਛਆ ਕੇ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਜੀ ਦਸਮ ਗੰਥ ਸਹੀ ਹੈ ਜਾ ਗਲਤ , ਉਹ ਕਹਿੰਦਾ ਇਹ ਸਭ ਉਹਨਾ ਦੇ ਵਿਚਾਰ ਨੇ ਜਿਹੜੇ ਕਿਤਾਬੀ ਕੀੜੇ ਨੇ ਮਤਲਬ ਪੜੇ ਲਿਖੇ ,ਮੈ ਕਿਹਾ ਫੇਰ ਇਹ ਦੱਸੋ ਕੀ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਕਹਿੰਦੀ ਹੇ ਪਿਛਲਾ ਜਨਮ ਹੁਦਾ ਕੁਝ , ਇਹ ਗੱਲ ਮੇ ਜਿਸੇ ਕੋਲੋ ਸੁਨੀ ਸੀ ਇਸ ਲਈ ਪੁਛੀ , ਉਹ ਕਹਿੰਦੇ ਦੇਖ ਜੁਆਨਾ ਸੁਖਮੁਨੀ ਸਹਿਬ ਚ ਲਿਖਆ ਹੈ ਇਨਸਾਨ ਕੀਟ ਪਤੰਗੇ ਇਹ ਜੂਨਾ ਕੱਟ ਕੇ ਹੀ ਆ੍ਉਦਾ , ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਅੰਧ ਵਿਸ਼ਵਾਸ ਤੋ ਰੋਕਦੀ ਹੈ , ਫਿਰ ਮੈ ਕਿਹਾ ਦਸਮ ਗੰਥ ਬਾਰੇ ? ਉਹ ਕਹਿੰਦੇ ਜੇ ਦਸਮ ਗੰਥ ਗਲਤ ਹੇ ਫੇਰ ਤਾ ਜੁਆਨਾ ਸਿੱਖ ਨੂੰਅਮਿਤ ਦੀ ਦਾਤ ਦੇਣਾ ਵੀ ਗਲਤ ਹੈ , ਮੈ ਕਿਹਾ ਉਹ ਕਿਵੇ , ਤਾ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਜੀ ਕਹਿਦੈ ਜਦ ਅਮਿਤ ਦੀ ਦਾਤ ਦਿੱਤੀ ਜਾਦੀ ਉਸ ਟਾਇਮ ਤਿੰਨ ਪੌੜਿਆ ਦਸਮ ਗੰਥ ਚੋ ਹੀ ਨੇ , ਮੈ ਹੁਣ ਚੁੱਪ ਸੀ , ਮੈ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਨੁੰ ਫਤਿਹ ਬੁਲਾਈ ਤੇ ਘਰ ਆ ਗਿਆ
 
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