Dasam Granth Not Authored By Guru Gobind Singh Ji

[Ramta]

Re: Dasam Granth Not Authored By Guru Go

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i quoted coz, tu Guru Nanak nu Patit likhya si.

Teri behas mere naal si, mere naal karda. Guru nu bol kabol na bolya kar.

I take those words back. It was silly of me, I admit, for having used such terminology.

I apologise.

I will rephrase my sentence :
If Nanak, a non-sikh, can attain enlightenment and become a messenger of God,
why can't I discuss that message.
(You said, "you're not a Sikh")



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https://www.unp.me/f15/guru-hargobind-sahib-ji-built-mosque-46183/

Read this thread.May be you can get some insight of Guru's sikhi.

I knew of that.
Just as I knew Guru Hargobind carried a sword with Goddess Kali's picture engraved on it.

Thanks

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[pps309]

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I will rephrase my sentence :
If Nanak, a non-sikh, can attain enlightenment and become a messenger of God,
why can't I discuss that message.
(You said, "you're not a Sikh")


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1) Je enlightenment hi attain karni aa, ta kisse syane bande kol baith, Gurbani Paro, etthe kato takra marr rahe ho. Loki 12 12 ghnate v gurbani parde aa, naam japde fer v enlightenment nai hundi kai kai saal.
Edar koi brahm gyani nahi baitha, jo thonu posts ch enlightenment de du.

2) Te duji gal jad haje tainu enlightenment hi nahi hoi, fer kyun apni half-cooked knowledge naal bakiya nu bharam bhulekhya ch paa raya??
Ek badi mashoor kahavat aa "Neem-hakeem khatre jaan".
Tusi v khatre jaan aali category ch fir rahe aa ess time.

To be honest, jidda di teri post aa, sarri UNP nu pata (shayad admin nu shad) ke tu koi enlightenment nahi sirf bhandi karan lai aauna.

Kar laa 22, jo karna. Jo tere kolo rabb ne karauna tu ohi karenga.
take care..

 

[pps309]

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I knew of that.
Just as I knew Guru Hargobind carried a sword with Goddess Kali's picture engraved on it.

Thanks

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Aaho aaho sahi gal aa.
Kali mata aap deke gaye si, Kehnde ke Hargobind ji hun gal mere bas di nahi rahi, aa lo tusi aap hi sambhalo........
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[Ramta]

Re: Dasam Granth Not Authored By Guru Go

Aaho aaho sahi gal aa.
Kali mata aap deke gaye si, Kehnde ke Hargobind ji hun gal mere bas di nahi rahi, aa lo tusi aap hi sambhalo........
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I can provide a Source.

Thanks

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[pps309]

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I can provide a Source.

Thanks

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Mere kol v source aa, source ki puri force aa......

Sikh kaum Nanak naam de Jahaj de chardi hoi aa, gaatiya paake patang ta laai ja sakdi aa par jahaj nahi thalle lath-de.

 

[Ramta]

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Sikh kaum Nanak naam de Jahaj de chardi hoi aa,
gaatiya paake patang ta laai ja sakdi aa
par jahaj nahi thalle lath-de.​

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SOURCE : shastarvidiya.org

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Thanks

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[Da Tiwana]

Re: Dasam Granth Not Authored By Guru Go

my dear friend, can you kindly tell me, where this sword is lying?

 

[full_taur]

Re: Dasam Granth Not Authored By Guru Go

aah site dekho te sahi.. SHASTAR Vidya..

Khanda dekho ki banaya... Idiots.. Lagda kisi bulle shah vage.. saade dost ne banayi hai site. Anyways thats what they do always.

Aaho aaho sahi gal aa.
Kali mata aap deke gaye si, Kehnde ke Hargobind ji hun gal mere bas di nahi rahi, aa lo tusi aap hi sambhalo........
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Good one PPS Bai... Cant stop laughing at that one.

Moreover I cant understand what Ramta Jiwants to prove by showing us the sword. Yaar asi te aap mann rahe haan ki Guru Hargobind ji kyu, even Guru Nanak Dev ji vi mandir gaye, jagan nath puri gaye, hor pata nai kithe kithe gaye. Same with so many other gurus. So whats the point here?

 

[pps309]

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SOURCE : shastarvidiya.org
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Thanks

Ess gal da ki proof aa ke badi kitti foto osse emblem di aa jo Kirpan te aa ke kisse hor di?
Ess gal da ki proof aa ke aa Kirpan Guru Hargobind Singh di aa?

Te aa vicho di kali line khichi aa, censorboard ne foto pass ni kiti?

 

[Da Tiwana]

Re: Dasam Granth Not Authored By Guru Go

Ess gal da ki proof aa ke badi kitti foto osse emblem di aa jo Kirpan te aa ke kisse hor di?
Ess gal da ki proof aa ke aa Kirpan Guru Hargobind Singh di aa?

ehna gallaan karke hi taan main vi janaab ehnu puchheya si ke dass bhai aaha kirpaan pai kithe aa, ghatto ghatt jaa ke darshan taan kariye, je ehe sacchi Guru ji da shastar hai taan.........................

 

[Ramta]

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Ess gal da ki proof aa ke badi kitti foto osse emblem di aa jo Kirpan te aa ke kisse hor di?
Ess gal da ki proof aa ke aa Kirpan Guru Hargobind Singh di aa?
Te aa vicho di kali line khichi aa, censorboard ne foto pass ni kiti?

Click on the second thumbnail on the right on this page here...
Sanatan Sikh Shastar Vidiya - History

... and on the fifth thumbnail on the right on this page here...
Sanatan Sikh Shastar Vidiya - History

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ehna gallaan karke hi taan main vi janaab ehnu puchheya si
ke dass bhai aaha kirpaan pai kithe aa, ghatto ghatt jaa ke darshan taan kariye,
je ehe sacchi Guru ji da shastar hai taan.........................

If I tell you Guruji da shastar also included trishul's which are displayed in Gurdwara's
that too you will refuse to believe....


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Returning back to the topic of the Dasam-Granth at hand let me aver that the Sikh
have decided it is part of their heritage, a gift of Shri Guru Govind Singh ji.

Dasam Granth has been placed in Gurdawara Takht Patna Sahib,
Gurdawara Nanded Sahib in Maharashtra, Damdami Taksal headquarters
at Talwandi Sabo and many other Gurdwaras...

Even the Shiromani Gurdawara Parbhandak Committee (SGPC) has accepted
parts of ‘Dasam Granth’ including the Ardas “Pritham Bhagouti Simar Ke”
have been adopted & Jaap Sahib, Chaupai, Savvayie, Akal Ustat Babbar bani,
Bachitar Natak, Chandi Di war and Shastar Mala are other portions of
‘Dasam Granth’, which have formed part of Sikh ‘Rehat Maryada’ (Religious rituals).

This is major hurdle before the Sikh fanatics to discredit ‘Dasam Granth’
and telling people that religious leaders deceived them....

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Thanks

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[Da Tiwana]

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If I tell you Guruji da shastar also included trishul's which are displayed in Gurdwara's
that too you will refuse to believe....

i m very much believing you mate, i just want to know the place...........
n if you fail to rpovide me with the location, then i might have to disagree wid u regarding the authenticity of these weapons.

 

[slsingh.sgnr]

dear all,

i agree that we should follow guru granth sahib ji as that is the only authorized granth by our last guru, Guru Gobind Singh Ji.

but if you have studied the dasam granth, it only consists of the recitals or peoms or divine words by Guru which are eventually collated by some of the poets. they are the appreciations of the God.
so at least we should respect such a great epic, and at the same time we should not forget to follow only and only Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
Raj karega ka Khalsa.....

thx & regards.
Lakhbir

 

[slsingh.sgnr]

dear all,

this is the fact that guru granth sahib ji is the authorized guru of us and we should follow only and only guru granth sahib ji.
but if you all have studied the poems or divine words in dasam granth, they are the appreciation og GOD, inspite of the fact that they are wrriten by some poets other than guru gobind singh ji.
so at least we should give all the due respect to dasam granth because it is somewhere related to guru gobind singh ji or waheguru....

waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ke fateh...

 

[*Sippu*]

hor te nahi kuj

 

[rimmimaur]

Re: Dasam Granth Not Authored By Guru Go

main sirf sri guru granth sahib ji di bani nu manda han par sri guru granth sahib ji vich eh kite v nai likhiya ki 'guru maneyo granth'.

 

[userid 56304]

^^Guru Granth Sahib ch tah kite eh v ni likhea ki "MEAT NA KHAO". Kadi apni common sense v varat liya karo 22 ji. Kalnu tusi kahoge langar ch meat v hona chahida.

Guru Sahib ji Gurduware banaun dey hak ch islai hi nahi si, kyunki ohna nu pata c apne bandea ney bina matlab toh hi lari jana. Ah jehre Dasam Granth da issue utha key aiven raajneeti kari jandey a...ehna nu please kaho pehla Guru Granth Sahib tah poora par lain.

 

[userid 56304]

Dasam Granth di mostly bani, bhatt bani a...tey bhatt mostly Vaishnavites sigey.

Guru ji ney kise nu kadi bani likhan toh ni rokea....sirf baani saaf tey suchi(i.e free of bias) honi chahidi a.

Bhatts ney sirf apney tarikey naal Guru di sift kiti a.(i.e referring to hindu gods which were prevalent at that time)

Ehda eh koi matlab ni that we should follow hindu gods or they ever existed. Jerhi bhatt bani a oh sirf poetry style, Guru di sift ch likhi gai a.

 

[Mahaj]

Q: patshai 10 ne gur gaddi kisnu diti ?
A: guru gaddi was actually given(transferred) to the khalsa by patshai 10
ਖ਼ਾਲਸਾ ਮੇਰੋ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪੂਰਾ ॥
Khalsa is my complete true Guru(sarbhloh granth)

Q: u mean khalsa is equivalent to guru ...guru di brabri karda khalsa ?
A: offcourse ...untill and unless he doesnt act like bipran ....even patshai 10 remained UNDER the command of khalsa ...(for eg: evacuation of anandpur and Battle of Chamkaur ...on both occasions khalsa ordered guru , and he abide by the orders)
Q: fer SGGS nu kida guru man lea geya ?
A: wen RULE of banda singh bhadur was established , goverment agencies and others(bandai khalsa) started stating him as 11th nanak (11th guru of sikhs)...fer khalse nu ede piche ik bahut vadi , doongi te khatarnakh sajish disi .....den sarbat khalsa ne ik maata pass keeta ....k koi v deh dhaari sikhaa da 11th guru nai ho sakda... SGGS shld be regarded as one and only code of conduct as well as 11th guru of the sikhs
Q: Patshai 10 ne gudgaddi ditti khalse nu ...khalse ne fer gur gaddi SGGS nu ditti?
A: patshai 10 ---> khalsa-----> SGGS
eeh vartalaap shayad kujj madad kar sake....its just my opinion ......mae jo sunea share kar reha....j ede vich kujj galat aa te jaroor daseo...feel free to share ur views..
thou thr is hukamnama by patshai 10 "sabb sikhan ko hukam hae guru maneo granth"

 

[userid114437]

q: Patshai 10 ne gur gaddi kisnu diti ?
A: Guru gaddi was actually given(transferred) to the khalsa by patshai 10
ਖ਼ਾਲਸਾ ਮੇਰੋ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪੂਰਾ ॥
khalsa is my complete true guru(sarbhloh granth)

q: U mean khalsa is equivalent to guru ...guru di brabri karda khalsa ?
A: Offcourse ...untill and unless he doesnt act like bipran ....even patshai 10 remained under the command of khalsa ...(for eg: Evacuation of anandpur and battle of chamkaur ...on both occasions khalsa ordered guru , and he abide by the orders)
q: Fer sggs nu kida guru man lea geya ?
A: Wen rule of banda singh bhadur was established , goverment agencies and others(bandai khalsa) started stating him as 11th nanak (11th guru of sikhs)...fer khalse nu ede piche ik bahut vadi , doongi te khatarnakh sajish disi .....den sarbat khalsa ne ik maata pass keeta ....k koi v deh dhaari sikhaa da 11th guru nai ho sakda... Sggs shld be regarded as one and only code of conduct as well as 11th guru of the sikhs
q: Patshai 10 ne gudgaddi ditti khalse nu ...khalse ne fer gur gaddi sggs nu ditti?
A: Patshai 10 ---> khalsa-----> sggs
eeh vartalaap shayad kujj madad kar sake....its just my opinion ......mae jo sunea share kar reha....j ede vich kujj galat aa te jaroor daseo...feel free to share ur views..
Thou thr is hukamnama by patshai 10 "sabb sikhan ko hukam hae guru maneo granth"

der was two group
bandai khalsa and tat khalsa,,
bandai said banda singh bahadr was der guru and tat khalsa said guru granth sahib ji is there guru
soo dona dhiran ne faisla kita ke, ardass krke parchia te likh ke darbar sahib sarovar cha pa ditiya jaan te jehdi parchi tar gayi ohi guru hou ga
fer guru granth sahib ji wali parchi tar gayi....
Par pehlan hi guru gobind singh ji ne gurta gaddi guru granth sahib ji nu de diti c, there was just a conflict between both ends