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Oh Almighty Waheguru :( Today I can only think of
ਅਸੰਖ ਮੂਰਖ ਅੰਧ ਘੋਰ ॥
Asankh Moorakh Andhh Ghor ||
असंख मूरख अंध घोर ॥
Countless fools, blinded by ignorance.
ਅਸੰਖ ਚੋਰ ਹਰਾਮਖੋਰ ॥
Asankh Chor Haraamakhor ||
असंख चोर हरामखोर ॥
Countless thieves and embezzlers.
ਅਸੰਖ ਅਮਰ ਕਰਿ ਜਾਹਿ ਜੋਰ ॥
Asankh Amar Kar Jaahi Jor ||
असंख अमर करि जाहि जोर ॥
Countless impose their will by force.
ਅਸੰਖ ਗਲਵਢ ਹਤਿਆ ਕਮਾਹਿ ॥
Asankh Galavadt Hathiaa Kamaahi ||
असंख गलवढ हतिआ कमाहि ॥
Countless cut-throats and ruthless killers.
ਅਸੰਖ ਪਾਪੀ ਪਾਪੁ ਕਰਿ ਜਾਹਿ ॥
Asankh Paapee Paap Kar Jaahi ||
असंख पापी पापु करि जाहि ॥
Countless sinners who keep on sinning.
ਅਸੰਖ ਕੂੜਿਆਰ ਕੂੜੇ ਫਿਰਾਹਿ ॥
Asankh Koorriaar Koorrae Firaahi ||
असंख कूड़िआर कूड़े फिराहि ॥
ਅਸੰਖ ਮਲੇਛ ਮਲੁ ਭਖਿ ਖਾਹਿ ॥
Asankh Malaeshh Mal Bhakh Khaahi ||
असंख मलेछ मलु भखि खाहि ॥
Countless wretches, eating filth as their ration.
ਅਸੰਖ ਨਿੰਦਕ ਸਿਰਿ ਕਰਹਿ ਭਾਰੁ ॥
Asankh Nindhak Sir Karehi Bhaar ||
असंख निंदक सिरि करहि भारु ॥
Countless slanderers, carrying the weight of their stupid mistakes on their heads.
ਨਾਨਕੁ ਨੀਚੁ ਕਹੈ ਵੀਚਾਰੁ ॥
Naanak Neech Kehai Veechaar ||
नानकु नीचु कहै वीचारु ॥
Nanak describes the state of the lowly.
ਵਾਰਿਆ ਨ ਜਾਵਾ ਏਕ ਵਾਰ ॥
Vaariaa N Jaavaa Eaek Vaar ||
वारिआ न जावा एक वार ॥
I cannot even once be a sacrifice to You.
ਜੋ ਤੁਧੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਸਾਈ ਭਲੀ ਕਾਰ ॥
Jo Thudhh Bhaavai Saaee Bhalee Kaar ||
जो तुधु भावै साई भली कार ॥
Whatever pleases You is the only good done,
ਤੂ ਸਦਾ ਸਲਾਮਤਿ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ॥੧੮॥
Thoo Sadhaa Salaamath Nirankaar ||18||
तू सदा सलामति निरंकार ॥१८॥
You, Eternal and Formless One. ||18||
 
Anyone reading this entire thread will come to know is the real idiot here. I didn't talk about Khalisthan or Pakistan because this was not the topic. You brought in Khalistan and Pakistan and I have no idea why. All I did and will continue to do is clear your doubts. The only reason, I got involved into this topic was because you put a question on the only Identity of a Sikh, their Hair. And you cleverly used the Kabeers sloak from our Gurbani to support your false statement. The main agenda for your kind of people is to create doubt among the Sikhs who are already under so much Hindu Influence. And then you questioned Guru Gobind’s motive regarding Khalsa and tried to taint him to create doubts among the Sikh and non-sikh readers of this topic that he slaughter Goats. Many Sikhs are already under the influence of people like you who have a very deep and hidden agenda to eliminate Sikhi and their way of life from the face of this planet. Because deep inside you know Sikhi has brought huge social reform in that region of the world and it’s hard for you people to digest that we branched out of Hinduism and have our own identity. If we talk about our Identity or try to show the other people your hidden agenda, or step up any way to say that your interpretation of Gurbani is wrong, than you label us as Khalistani, like you clearly did to me in this topic. You cannot discuss a topic on the basis of real spiritual knowledge and all you do is talk about non-sense and jump from one place to another to save your face. Your Chanakiya style politics to taint our great history, make false stories regarding our Guru’s, penetrate into our way of life and preach conflicting information about our religion to our own people is the main agenda. Your kind has already eliminated Buddhism, Jainism from India. What is the difference between Turk Slaughtering the Hindus and the Pushyamitra Sunga slaughtering people of Budh dharma? Adi Shankaracharya giving orders to kills Budd monks for 100 gold coins per head. Capturing their shrines and destroying their temples and the famous one is Badrinath Temple. In which your Adi Shankarachrya said he had a dream of Vishnu talking to him to take over this temple. What is the difference? Why are you crying over Turks now when your own kind have have done this slaughter many times. The reason the Budd Monks, and their followers couldn't resist the slaughters, because they had no weapons or training to put up a fight. And only after this huge massacre, did they start doing martial arts training.

So! in all of History, these sort of slaughters took place in the name of religion but in reality, it was someone’s greed for total control and power. Then the question remains is why your ancestors (the Hindus) didn't put up a fight with the Turks who were only a handful compare to the population of Hindustan. Why they ran away and didn't battled these invaders. Oh ya! wait a minute, because the society was so much divided by caste system and this toxic was spread by our elite Brahmans. Your Hindu ancestors were to blame for their failure. There was no unity among the masses and living and the elites were living a comfortable life without any Shastar Vidiya. Look at the Jews, now pick a fight with the Jews in Israel . 6 millions jews were killed in world war 2, why because they gave up their rights in Germany. They were not united and armed and accepted their faith without dying with dignity (picking up arms). So! these people learned the hard way and now these people are total security freaks. Controlling not only their unfriendly region but have influence all over the world. Even up till now, your mahatma Gandhi was preaching, if someone slaps you on one side of the face, please turn the other cheek. In reality, a bad guy with a Gun can only be stopped by a good guy with gun..period. This is Sikhi and this is what is being taught by Guru Nanak up till Guru Gobind Singh.

Page 360 and Pae 416 & 417 talks about the Babar Invasion. Guru Nansk speaks ofthat account and reason they LOST. Idiots used Drunk Elephants (the elephants many times turn around to maul their own army and this is why King Porus lost to Alexzander

This is why a huge reform was needed to wake up the masses so they can learn to understand their rights and fight this oppression. This is where Guru Nanak expressed his voice to wake up the masses and let them understand that there is no difference between humans. We all came from one and our destiny is to go back to the One. Na koi Hindu, Na Musalmaan totally eliminates your argument that Guru Nanak was favor of Hindu.


But, d sikh kno who dey r. Guru Granth Ji says it all.

blessed, blessed is the blanket worn by Krishna.
Blessed, blessed are you, O mother Dayvakee;
into your home the Lord was born.

Raag Maalee Gaurhaa, Page 988

So! This Gurbani you references is from Bhagat Namdev Ji. Its from raag ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ ਬਾਣੀ ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ ਕੀ. Bhagat namdev Ji is from MAHARASTRA. In Maharashtra there is a Hindu mandir with a KRISHAN JI Moortee called BEETHAL ( Krishan Ji sitting ona Rock ). Once Bhagat madev Ji entered this mandir and was Promptly KICKED OUT of iyt by the Pandits for being a SHUDRA LOW CASTE. Bhagat ji took his blanket and did samadhi at the BACK of the mandir and Prayed to HIS "BEETHAL = WAHEGURU=AKAL PURAKH"....as to WHY he is being discriminated like this just becasue of his LOW CASTE....and Low and Behold..the MANDIR ROTATED on its FOUNDATION to FACE Bhagat namdev Ji sitting at its BACK.. This incident is mentioned by Bhagat Ji in His Gurbani in the Guru Granth Ji sahib.. This Shabad led to the MISCONCEPTION that Bhagat namdev Ji was a "Beethal" Moortee idol worshipper. Question arises...since Bhagat namdev Ji is LOCAL RESIDENT, His Low caste is well Known to all. The Beethal mandir is also LOCAL. IF Bhagat namdev Ji had been going to the Mandir as a REGULAR WORSHIPPER...then it begs the question as to WHY he was Kicked out one day and not before ??

2 The second reason for this misconception is that Bahgat ji uses the word BEETHAL a lot in his writings...But if we care to read his writings properly. We will notice that Bhagat Ji's BEETHAL is a word for word description of AKAL PURAKH (as many Almighty Names used in Gurbani)..and not a stone idol.

ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ ਗੋਂਡ ॥
bilaaval gonadd ||
Bilaaval Gond:


ਆਜੁ ਨਾਮੇ ਬੀਠਲੁ ਦੇਖਿਆ ਮੂਰਖ ਕੋ ਸਮਝਾਊ ਰੇ ॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
aaj naamae beethal dhaekhiaa moorakh ko samajhaaoo rae || rehaao ||

Today, Naam Dayv saw the Lord, and so I will instruct the ignorant. ||Pause||

ਪਾਂਡੇ ਤੁਮਰੀ ਗਾਇਤ੍ਰੀ ਲੋਧੇ ਕਾ ਖੇਤੁ ਖਾਤੀ ਥੀ ॥
paanddae thumaree gaaeithree lodhhae kaa khaeth khaathee thhee ||
O Pandit, O religious scholar, your Gayatri was grazing in the fields.


ਲੈ ਕਰਿ ਠੇਗਾ ਟਗਰੀ ਤੋਰੀ ਲਾਂਗਤ ਲਾਂਗਤ ਜਾਤੀ ਥੀ ॥੧॥
lai kar thaegaa ttagaree thoree laangath laangath jaathee thhee ||1||
Taking a stick, the farmer broke its leg, and now it walks with a limp. ||1||


ਪਾਂਡੇ ਤੁਮਰਾ ਮਹਾਦੇਉ ਧਉਲੇ ਬਲਦ ਚੜਿਆ ਆਵਤੁ ਦੇਖਿਆ ਥਾ ॥
paanddae thumaraa mehaadhaeo dhhoulae baladh charriaa aavath dhaekhiaa thhaa ||
O Pandit, I saw your great god Shiva, riding along on a white bull.

ਮੋਦੀ ਕੇ ਘਰ ਖਾਣਾ ਪਾਕਾ ਵਾ ਕਾ ਲੜਕਾ ਮਾਰਿਆ ਥਾ ॥੨॥
modhee kae ghar khaanaa paakaa vaa kaa larrakaa maariaa thhaa ||2||
In the merchant's house, a banquet was prepared for him - he killed the merchant's son. ||2||

ਪਾਂਡੇ ਤੁਮਰਾ ਰਾਮਚੰਦੁ ਸੋ ਭੀ ਆਵਤੁ ਦੇਖਿਆ ਥਾ ॥
paanddae thumaraa raamachandh so bhee aavath dhaekhiaa thhaa ||
O Pandit, I saw your Raam Chand coming too


ਰਾਵਨ ਸੇਤੀ ਸਰਬਰ ਹੋਈ ਘਰ ਕੀ ਜੋਇ ਗਵਾਈ ਥੀ ॥੩॥
raavan saethee sarabar hoee ghar kee joe gavaaee thhee ||3||
he lost his wife, fighting a war against Raawan. ||3||


ਹਿੰਦੂ ਅੰਨ੍ਹਾ ਤੁਰਕੂ ਕਾਣਾ ॥
hindhoo annhaa thurakoo kaanaa ||
The Hindu is sightless; the Muslim has only one eye.


ਦੁਹਾਂ ਤੇ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਸਿਆਣਾ ॥
dhuhaan thae giaanee siaanaa ||
The spiritual teacher is wiser than both of them.


ਹਿੰਦੂ ਪੂਜੈ ਦੇਹੁਰਾ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਣੁ ਮਸੀਤਿ ॥
hindhoo poojai dhaehuraa musalamaan maseeth ||
The Hindu worships at the temple, the Muslim at the mosque.


ਨਾਮੇ ਸੋਈ ਸੇਵਿਆ ਜਹ ਦੇਹੁਰਾ ਨ ਮਸੀਤਿ ॥੪॥੩॥੭॥

naamae soee saeviaa jeh dhaehuraa n maseeth ||4||3||7||
Naam Dayv serves that Lord, who is not limited to either the temple or the mosque. ||4||3||7||

ਆਜੁ ਨਾਮੇ ਬੀਠਲੁ ਦੇਖਿਆ ਮੂਰਖ ਕੋ ਸਮਝਾਊ ਰੇ ॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
ਹੇ ਪਾਂਡੇ! ਮੈਂ ਤਾਂ ਇਸੇ ਜਨਮ ਵਿਚ ਪਰਮਾਤਮਾ ਦਾ ਦਰਸ਼ਨ ਕਰ ਲਿਆ ਹੈ (ਪਰ ਤੂੰ ਮੂਰਖ ਹੀ ਰਹਿਓਂ, ਤੈਨੂੰ ਦਰਸ਼ਨ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੋਇਆ; ਆ) ਮੈਂ (ਤੈਨੂੰ) ਮੂਰਖ ਨੂੰ ਸਮਝਾਵਾਂ (ਕਿ ਤੈਨੂੰ ਦਰਸ਼ਨ ਕਿਉਂ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੁੰਦਾ) ਰਹਾਉ॥
ਆਜੁ = ਅੱਜ, ਹੁਣ, ਇਸੇ ਜਨਮ ਵਿਚ। ਬੀਠਲੁ = {Skt. विष्ठल One situated at a distance. ਵਿ-ਪਰੇ, ਦੂਰ। ਸਥਲ = ਖਲੋਤਾ ਹੋਇਆ} ਉਹ ਜੋ ਮਾਇਆ ਦੇ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਵ ਤੋਂ ਪਰੇ ਹੈ। ਰੇ = ਹੇ ਪਾਂਡੇ! ਸਮਝਾਊ = ਮੈਂ ਸਮਝਾਵਾਂ ॥ਰਹਾਉ॥
ਹੇ ਪਾਂਡੇ! ਮੈਂ ਤਾਂ ਇਸੇ ਜਨਮ ਵਿਚ ਪਰਮਾਤਮਾ ਦਾ ਦਰਸ਼ਨ ਕਰ ਲਿਆ ਹੈ (ਪਰ ਤੂੰ ਮੂਰਖ ਹੀ ਰਹਿਓਂ, ਤੈਨੂੰ ਦਰਸ਼ਨ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੋਇਆ; ਆ) ਮੈਂ (ਤੈਨੂੰ) ਮੂਰਖ ਨੂੰ ਸਮਝਾਵਾਂ (ਕਿ ਤੈਨੂੰ ਦਰਸ਼ਨ ਕਿਉਂ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੁੰਦਾ) ਰਹਾਉ॥

ਪਾਂਡੇ ਤੁਮਰੀ ਗਾਇਤ੍ਰੀ ਲੋਧੇ ਕਾ ਖੇਤੁ ਖਾਤੀ ਥੀ ॥
ਹੇ ਪਾਂਡੇ! (ਪਹਿਲਾਂ ਤਾਂ ਜਿਸ ਗਾਇਤ੍ਰੀ ਦਾ ਤੂੰ ਪਾਠ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈਂ ਉਸ ਉੱਤੇ ਤੇਰੀ ਸ਼ਰਧਾ ਨਹੀਂ ਬਣ ਸਕਦੀ, ਕਿਉਂਕਿ) ਤੇਰੀ ਗਾਇਤ੍ਰੀ (ਉਹ ਹੈ ਜਿਸ ਬਾਰੇ ਤੂੰ ਆਪ ਹੀ ਆਖਦਾ ਹੈਂ ਕਿ ਇਕ ਵਾਰੀ ਸ੍ਰਾਪ ਦੇ ਕਾਰਨ ਗਊ ਦੀ ਜੂਨ ਵਿਚ ਆ ਕੇ ਇਹ) ਇਕ ਲੋਧੇ ਜੱਟ ਦੀ ਪੈਲੀ ਖਾਣ ਜਾ ਪਈ,
ਤੁਮਰੀ ਗਾਇਤ੍ਰੀ = ਜਿਸ ਨੂੰ ਤੁਸੀ ਗਾਇਤ੍ਰੀ ਆਖਦੇ ਹੋ ਤੇ ਜਿਸ ਬਾਰੇ ਇਹ ਸ਼ਰਧਾ-ਹੀਣ ਕਹਾਣੀ ਭੀ ਬਣਾ ਰੱਖੀ ਹੈ। ਗਾਇਤ੍ਰੀ = {Skt. गायत्री = ਇਕ ਬੜਾ ਪਵਿੱਤਰ ਮੰਤਰ, ਜਿਸ ਦਾ ਪਾਠ ਹਰੇਕ ਬ੍ਰਾਹਮਣ ਲਈ ਸਵੇਰੇ ਸ਼ਾਮ ਕਰਨਾ ਜ਼ਰੂਰੀ ਹੈ। ਉਹ ਮੰਤਰ ਇਉਂ ਹੈ: तत्सवितुर्वरेण्य भर्गो देवस्य धीमाही धयो यो नः प्रचोदयात्। ਲੋਧਾ = ਜੱਟਾਂ ਦੀ ਇਕ ਜਾਤ ਦਾ ਨਾਉਂ ਹੈ।

ਲੈ ਕਰਿ ਠੇਗਾ ਟਗਰੀ ਤੋਰੀ ਲਾਂਗਤ ਲਾਂਗਤ ਜਾਤੀ ਥੀ ॥੧॥
ਉਸ ਨੇ ਸੋਟਾ ਲੈ ਕੇ ਲੱਤ ਤੋੜ ਦਿੱਤੀ ਤਾਂ (ਵਿਚਾਰੀ) ਲੰਙਾ ਲੰਙਾ ਕੇ ਤੁਰਨ ਲੱਗੀ ॥੧॥
ਠੇਗਾ = ਸੋਟਾ। ਲਾਂਗਤ = ਲੰਙਾ ਲੰਙਾ ਕੇ ॥੧॥
ਹੇ ਪਾਂਡੇ! (ਪਹਿਲਾਂ ਤਾਂ ਜਿਸ ਗਾਇਤ੍ਰੀ ਦਾ ਤੂੰ ਪਾਠ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈਂ ਉਸ ਉੱਤੇ ਤੇਰੀ ਸ਼ਰਧਾ ਨਹੀਂ ਬਣ ਸਕਦੀ, ਕਿਉਂਕਿ) ਤੇਰੀ ਗਾਇਤ੍ਰੀ (ਉਹ ਹੈ ਜਿਸ ਬਾਰੇ ਤੂੰ ਆਪ ਹੀ ਆਖਦਾ ਹੈਂ ਕਿ ਇਕ ਵਾਰੀ ਸ੍ਰਾਪ ਦੇ ਕਾਰਨ ਗਊ ਦੀ ਜੂਨ ਵਿਚ ਆ ਕੇ ਇਹ) ਇਕ ਲੋਧੇ ਜੱਟ ਦੀ ਪੈਲੀ ਖਾਣ ਜਾ ਪਈ, ਉਸ ਨੇ ਸੋਟਾ ਲੈ ਕੇ ਲੱਤ ਤੋੜ ਦਿੱਤੀ ਤਾਂ (ਵਿਚਾਰੀ) ਲੰਙਾ ਲੰਙਾ ਕੇ ਤੁਰਨ ਲੱਗੀ ॥੧॥

ਪਾਂਡੇ ਤੁਮਰਾ ਮਹਾਦੇਉ ਧਉਲੇ ਬਲਦ ਚੜਿਆ ਆਵਤੁ ਦੇਖਿਆ ਥਾ ॥
ਹੇ ਪਾਂਡੇ! (ਫਿਰ ਤੂੰ ਜਿਸ ਸ਼ਿਵ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਅਰਾਧਨਾ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈਂ ਉਸ ਨੂੰ ਬੜਾ ਕ੍ਰੋਧੀ ਸਮਝਦਾ ਹੈਂ ਤੇ ਆਖਦਾ ਹੈਂ ਕਿ ਗੁੱਸੇ ਵਿਚ ਆ ਕੇ ਉਹ ਸ੍ਰਾਪ ਦੇ ਦੇਂਦਾ ਹੈ, ਭਸਮ ਕਰ ਦੇਂਦਾ ਹੈ। ਐਸੇ ਸ਼ਿਵ ਨਾਲ ਤੂੰ ਪਿਆਰ ਕਿਵੇਂ ਕਰ ਸਕਦਾ ਹੈਂ?)
ਮਹਾਦੇਵ = ਸ਼ਿਵ। ਮਉਲੇ = ਚਿੱਟੇ।

ਮੋਦੀ ਕੇ ਘਰ ਖਾਣਾ ਪਾਕਾ ਵਾ ਕਾ ਲੜਕਾ ਮਾਰਿਆ ਥਾ ॥੨॥
ਤੇਰਾ ਸ਼ਿਵ (ਤਾਂ ਉਹ ਹੈ ਜਿਸ ਬਾਰੇ ਤੂੰ ਆਖਦਾ ਹੈਂ) ਕਿਸੇ ਭੰਡਾਰੀ ਦੇ ਘਰ ਉਸ ਵਾਸਤੇ ਭੋਜਨ ਤਿਆਰ ਹੋਇਆ, ਸ਼ਿਵ ਨੂੰ ਚਿੱਟੇ ਬਲਦ ਉੱਤੇ ਚੜ੍ਹਿਆ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਵੇਖਿਆ, (ਭਾਵ, ਤੂੰ ਦੱਸਦਾ ਹੈਂ ਕਿ ਸ਼ਿਵ ਜੀ ਚਿੱਟੇ ਬਲਦ ਦੀ ਸਵਾਰੀ ਕਰਦੇ ਸਨ) (ਪਰ ਸ਼ਾਇਦ ਉਹ ਭੋਜਨ ਪਸੰਦ ਨਾ ਆਇਆ, ਸ਼ਿਵ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਸ੍ਰਾਪ ਦੇ ਕੇ) ਉਸ ਦਾ ਮੁੰਡਾ ਮਾਰ ਦਿੱਤਾ ॥੨॥
ਮੋਦੀ = ਭੰਡਾਰੀ। ਵਾ ਕਾ = ਉਸ ਦਾ ॥੨॥
ਹੇ ਪਾਂਡੇ! (ਫਿਰ ਤੂੰ ਜਿਸ ਸ਼ਿਵ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਅਰਾਧਨਾ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈਂ ਉਸ ਨੂੰ ਬੜਾ ਕ੍ਰੋਧੀ ਸਮਝਦਾ ਹੈਂ ਤੇ ਆਖਦਾ ਹੈਂ ਕਿ ਗੁੱਸੇ ਵਿਚ ਆ ਕੇ ਉਹ ਸ੍ਰਾਪ ਦੇ ਦੇਂਦਾ ਹੈ, ਭਸਮ ਕਰ ਦੇਂਦਾ ਹੈ। ਐਸੇ ਸ਼ਿਵ ਨਾਲ ਤੂੰ ਪਿਆਰ ਕਿਵੇਂ ਕਰ ਸਕਦਾ ਹੈਂ?) ਤੇਰਾ ਸ਼ਿਵ (ਤਾਂ ਉਹ ਹੈ ਜਿਸ ਬਾਰੇ ਤੂੰ ਆਖਦਾ ਹੈਂ) ਕਿਸੇ ਭੰਡਾਰੀ ਦੇ ਘਰ ਉਸ ਵਾਸਤੇ ਭੋਜਨ ਤਿਆਰ ਹੋਇਆ, ਸ਼ਿਵ ਨੂੰ ਚਿੱਟੇ ਬਲਦ ਉੱਤੇ ਚੜ੍ਹਿਆ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਵੇਖਿਆ, (ਭਾਵ, ਤੂੰ ਦੱਸਦਾ ਹੈਂ ਕਿ ਸ਼ਿਵ ਜੀ ਚਿੱਟੇ ਬਲਦ ਦੀ ਸਵਾਰੀ ਕਰਦੇ ਸਨ) (ਪਰ ਸ਼ਾਇਦ ਉਹ ਭੋਜਨ ਪਸੰਦ ਨਾ ਆਇਆ, ਸ਼ਿਵ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਸ੍ਰਾਪ ਦੇ ਕੇ) ਉਸ ਦਾ ਮੁੰਡਾ ਮਾਰ ਦਿੱਤਾ ॥੨॥
ਪਾਂਡੇ ਤੁਮਰਾ ਰਾਮਚੰਦੁ ਸੋ ਭੀ ਆਵਤੁ ਦੇਖਿਆ ਥਾ ॥
ਹੇ ਪਾਂਡੇ! ਤੇਰੇ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮ ਚੰਦਰ ਜੀ ਭੀ ਆਉਂਦੇ ਵੇਖੇ ਹਨ (ਭਾਵ, ਜਿਸ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮ ਚੰਦਰ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਤੂੰ ਉਪਾਸ਼ਨਾ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈਂ, ਉਹਨਾਂ ਦੀ ਬਾਬਤ ਭੀ ਤੈਥੋਂ ਇਹੀ ਕੁਝ ਅਸਾਂ ਸੁਣਿਆ ਹੈ ਕਿ)

ਰਾਵਨ ਸੇਤੀ ਸਰਬਰ ਹੋਈ ਘਰ ਕੀ ਜੋਇ ਗਵਾਈ ਥੀ ॥੩॥
ਰਾਵਣ ਨਾਲ ਉਹਨਾਂ ਦੀ ਲੜਾਈ ਹੋ ਪਈ, ਕਿਉਂਕਿ ਉਹ ਵਹੁਟੀ (ਸੀਤਾ ਜੀ) ਗਵਾ ਬੈਠੇ ਸਨ ॥੩॥
ਸਰਬਰ = ਲੜਾਈ। ਜੋਇ = ਇਸਤ੍ਰੀ ॥੩॥
ਹੇ ਪਾਂਡੇ! ਤੇਰੇ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮ ਚੰਦਰ ਜੀ ਭੀ ਆਉਂਦੇ ਵੇਖੇ ਹਨ (ਭਾਵ, ਜਿਸ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮ ਚੰਦਰ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਤੂੰ ਉਪਾਸ਼ਨਾ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈਂ, ਉਹਨਾਂ ਦੀ ਬਾਬਤ ਭੀ ਤੈਥੋਂ ਇਹੀ ਕੁਝ ਅਸਾਂ ਸੁਣਿਆ ਹੈ ਕਿ) ਰਾਵਣ ਨਾਲ ਉਹਨਾਂ ਦੀ ਲੜਾਈ ਹੋ ਪਈ, ਕਿਉਂਕਿ ਉਹ ਵਹੁਟੀ (ਸੀਤਾ ਜੀ) ਗਵਾ ਬੈਠੇ ਸਨ ॥੩॥

ਹਿੰਦੂ ਅੰਨ੍ਹਾ ਤੁਰਕੂ ਕਾਣਾ ॥
ਸੋ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਦੋਵੇਂ ਅੱਖਾਂ ਗਵਾ ਬੈਠਾ ਹੈ, ਪਰ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ਦੀ ਇੱਕ ਅੱਖ ਹੀ ਖ਼ਰਾਬ ਹੋਈ ਹੈ;
ਤੁਰਕੂ = ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ।

ਦੁਹਾਂ ਤੇ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਸਿਆਣਾ ॥
ਇਹਨਾਂ ਦੋਹਾਂ ਨਾਲੋਂ ਸਿਆਣਾ ਉਹ ਬੰਦਾ ਹੈ ਜਿਸ ਨੂੰ (ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਦੀ ਹਸਤੀ ਦਾ ਸਹੀ) ਗਿਆਨ ਹੋ ਗਿਆ ਹੈ।

ਹਿੰਦੂ ਪੂਜੈ ਦੇਹੁਰਾ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਣੁ ਮਸੀਤਿ ॥
(ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨੇ ਇੱਕ ਅੱਖ ਤਾਂ ਤਦੋਂ ਗਵਾਈ ਜਦੋਂ ਉਹ ਆਪਣੇ ਇਸ਼ਟ ਬਾਰੇ ਸ਼ਰਧਾ-ਹੀਣ ਕਹਾਣੀਆਂ ਘੜਨ ਲੱਗ ਪਿਆ, ਤੇ ਦੂਜੀ ਗਵਾਈ, ਜਦੋਂ ਉਹ ਪਰਮਾਤਮਾ ਨੂੰ ਨਿਰਾ ਮੰਦਰ ਵਿਚ ਬੈਠਾ ਸਮਝ ਕੇ) ਮੰਦਰ ਨੂੰ ਪੂਜਣ ਲੱਗ ਪਿਆ, ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ (ਦੀ ਹਜ਼ਰਤ ਮੁਹੰਮਦ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਵਿਚ ਪੂਰੀ ਸ਼ਰਧਾ ਹੋਣ ਕਰਕੇ ਇੱਕ ਅੱਖ ਤਾਂ ਸਾਬਤ ਹੈ ਪਰ ਦੂਜੀ ਗਵਾ ਬੈਠਾ ਹੈ, ਕਿਉਂਕਿ ਰੱਬ ਨੂੰ ਨਿਰਾ ਮਸਜਿਦ ਵਿਚ ਜਾਣ ਕੇ) ਮਸਜਿਦ ਨੂੰ ਹੀ ਰੱਬ ਦਾ ਘਰ ਸਮਝ ਰਿਹਾ ਹੈ।

ਨਾਮੇ ਸੋਈ ਸੇਵਿਆ ਜਹ ਦੇਹੁਰਾ ਨ ਮਸੀਤਿ ॥੪॥੩॥੭॥
ਮੈਂ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਉਸ ਪਰਮਾਤਮਾ ਦਾ ਸਿਮਰਨ ਕਰਦਾ ਹਾਂ ਜਿਸ ਦਾ ਨਾਹ ਕੋਈ ਖ਼ਾਸ ਮੰਦਰ ਹੈ ਤੇ ਨਾ ਮਸਜਿਦ ॥੪॥੩॥੭॥
ਜਹ = ਜਿਸ ਦਾ। ਦੇਹੁਰਾ = ਮੰਦਰ ॥੪॥੩॥੭॥
ਸੋ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਦੋਵੇਂ ਅੱਖਾਂ ਗਵਾ ਬੈਠਾ ਹੈ, ਪਰ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ਦੀ ਇੱਕ ਅੱਖ ਹੀ ਖ਼ਰਾਬ ਹੋਈ ਹੈ; ਇਹਨਾਂ ਦੋਹਾਂ ਨਾਲੋਂ ਸਿਆਣਾ ਉਹ ਬੰਦਾ ਹੈ ਜਿਸ ਨੂੰ (ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਦੀ ਹਸਤੀ ਦਾ ਸਹੀ) ਗਿਆਨ ਹੋ ਗਿਆ ਹੈ। (ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨੇ ਇੱਕ ਅੱਖ ਤਾਂ ਤਦੋਂ ਗਵਾਈ ਜਦੋਂ ਉਹ ਆਪਣੇ ਇਸ਼ਟ ਬਾਰੇ ਸ਼ਰਧਾ-ਹੀਣ ਕਹਾਣੀਆਂ ਘੜਨ ਲੱਗ ਪਿਆ, ਤੇ ਦੂਜੀ ਗਵਾਈ, ਜਦੋਂ ਉਹ ਪਰਮਾਤਮਾ ਨੂੰ ਨਿਰਾ ਮੰਦਰ ਵਿਚ ਬੈਠਾ ਸਮਝ ਕੇ) ਮੰਦਰ ਨੂੰ ਪੂਜਣ ਲੱਗ ਪਿਆ, ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ (ਦੀ ਹਜ਼ਰਤ ਮੁਹੰਮਦ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਵਿਚ ਪੂਰੀ ਸ਼ਰਧਾ ਹੋਣ ਕਰਕੇ ਇੱਕ ਅੱਖ ਤਾਂ ਸਾਬਤ ਹੈ ਪਰ ਦੂਜੀ ਗਵਾ ਬੈਠਾ ਹੈ, ਕਿਉਂਕਿ ਰੱਬ ਨੂੰ ਨਿਰਾ ਮਸਜਿਦ ਵਿਚ ਜਾਣ ਕੇ) ਮਸਜਿਦ ਨੂੰ ਹੀ ਰੱਬ ਦਾ ਘਰ ਸਮਝ ਰਿਹਾ ਹੈ। ਮੈਂ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਉਸ ਪਰਮਾਤਮਾ ਦਾ ਸਿਮਰਨ ਕਰਦਾ ਹਾਂ ਜਿਸ ਦਾ ਨਾਹ ਕੋਈ ਖ਼ਾਸ ਮੰਦਰ ਹੈ ਤੇ ਨਾ ਮਸਜਿਦ ॥੪॥੩॥੭॥

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By the Pleasure of His Will, He took incarnation
as the great fish and the tortoise.
The Lord of beauteous hair, the Worker of miraculous deeds,
whatever He wishes, comes to pass.

Guru Arjan dev, Page 1082 Guru Arjun is talking about Supreme Lord taking incarnation of Brahma. But Guru Arjun Dev talked about the Supreme Lord who is creator of many Brahmas, Vishnu’s and Mahesh and many other universes like this in his shabad.
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ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮਚੰਦ ਜਿਸੁ ਰੂਪੁ ਨ ਰੇਖਿਆ ॥
Sree Raamachandh Jis Roop N Raekhiaa ||
स्री रामचंद जिसु रूपु न रेखिआ ॥
You are the Great Raam Chand, who has no form or feature.
46430 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੯

ਬਨਵਾਲੀ ਚਕ੍ਰਪਾਣਿ ਦਰਸਿ ਅਨੂਪਿਆ ॥
Banavaalee Chakrapaan Dharas Anoopiaa ||
बनवाली चक्रपाणि दरसि अनूपिआ ॥
Adorned with flowers, holding the chakra in Your hand, Your form is incomparably beautiful.
46431 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੦

ਸਹਸ ਨੇਤ੍ਰ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਹੈ ਸਹਸਾ ਇਕੁ ਦਾਤਾ ਸਭ ਹੈ ਮੰਗਾ ॥੪॥
Sehas Naethr Moorath Hai Sehasaa Eik Dhaathaa Sabh Hai Mangaa ||4||
सहस नेत्र मूरति है सहसा इकु दाता सभ है मंगा ॥४॥
You have thousands of eyes, and thousands of forms. You alone are the Giver, and all are beggars of You. ||4||
46432 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੦

ਭਗਤਿ ਵਛਲੁ ਅਨਾਥਹ ਨਾਥੇ ॥
Bhagath Vashhal Anaathheh Naathhae ||
भगति वछलु अनाथह नाथे ॥
You are the Lover of Your devotees, the Master of the masterless.
46433 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੧

ਗੋਪੀ ਨਾਥੁ ਸਗਲ ਹੈ ਸਾਥੇ ॥
Gopee Naathh Sagal Hai Saathhae ||
गोपी नाथु सगल है साथे ॥
The Lord and Master of the milk-maids, You are the companion of all.
46434 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੧

ਬਾਸੁਦੇਵ ਨਿਰੰਜਨ ਦਾਤੇ ਬਰਨਿ ਨ ਸਾਕਉ ਗੁਣ ਅੰਗਾ ॥੫॥
Baasudhaev Niranjan Dhaathae Baran N Saako Gun Angaa ||5||
बासुदेव निरंजन दाते बरनि न साकउ गुण अंगा ॥५॥
O Lord, Immacuate Great Giver, I cannot describe even an iota of Your Glorious Virtues. ||5||
46435 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੧
ਮੁਕੰਦ ਮਨੋਹਰ ਲਖਮੀ ਨਾਰਾਇਣ ॥
Mukandh Manohar Lakhamee Naaraaein ||
मुकंद मनोहर लखमी नाराइण ॥
Liberator, Enticing Lord, Lord of Lakshmi, Supreme Lord God.
46436 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੨

ਦ੍ਰੋਪਤੀ ਲਜਾ ਨਿਵਾਰਿ ਉਧਾਰਣ ॥
Dhropathee Lajaa Nivaar Oudhhaaran ||
द्रोपती लजा निवारि उधारण ॥
Savior of Dropadi's honor.
46437 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੨
Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev
ਕਮਲਾਕੰਤ ਕਰਹਿ ਕੰਤੂਹਲ ਅਨਦ ਬਿਨੋਦੀ ਨਿਹਸੰਗਾ ॥੬॥
Kamalaakanth Karehi Kanthoohal Anadh Binodhee Nihasangaa ||6||
कमलाकंत करहि कंतूहल अनद बिनोदी निहसंगा ॥६॥
Lord of Maya, miracle-worker, absorbed in delightful play, unattached. ||6||
46438 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੨
ਅਮੋਘ ਦਰਸਨ ਆਜੂਨੀ ਸੰਭਉ ॥
Amogh Dharasan Aajoonee Sanbho ||
अमोघ दरसन आजूनी स्मभउ ॥
The Blessed Vision of His Darshan is fruitful and rewarding; He is not born, He is self-existent.
46439 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੩
ਅਕਾਲ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਜਿਸੁ ਕਦੇ ਨਾਹੀ ਖਉ ॥
Akaal Moorath Jis Kadhae Naahee Kho ||
अकाल मूरति जिसु कदे नाही खउ ॥
His form is undying; it is never destroyed.
46440 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੩
ਅਬਿਨਾਸੀ ਅਬਿਗਤ ਅਗੋਚਰ ਸਭੁ ਕਿਛੁ ਤੁਝ ਹੀ ਹੈ ਲਗਾ ॥੭॥
Abinaasee Abigath Agochar Sabh Kishh Thujh Hee Hai Lagaa ||7||
अबिनासी अबिगत अगोचर सभु किछु तुझ ही है लगा ॥७॥
O imperishable, eternal, unfathomable Lord, everything is attached to You. ||7||
46441 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੪

ਸ੍ਰੀਰੰਗ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੇ ਵਾਸੀ ॥
Sreerang Baikunth Kae Vaasee ||
स्रीरंग बैकुंठ के वासी ॥
The Lover of greatness, who dwells in heaven.
46442 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੪

ਮਛੁ ਕਛੁ ਕੂਰਮੁ ਆਗਿਆ ਅਉਤਰਾਸੀ ॥
Mashh Kashh Kooram Aagiaa Aoutharaasee ||
मछु कछु कूरमु आगिआ अउतरासी ॥
By the Pleasure of His Will, He took incarnation as the great fish and the tortoise.
46443 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੫
Raag Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev
ਕੇਸਵ ਚਲਤ ਕਰਹਿ ਨਿਰਾਲੇ ਕੀਤਾ ਲੋੜਹਿ ਸੋ ਹੋਇਗਾ ॥੮॥
Kaesav Chalath Karehi Niraalae Keethaa Lorrehi So Hoeigaa ||8||
केसव चलत करहि निराले कीता लोड़हि सो होइगा ॥८॥
The Lord of beauteous hair, the Worker of miraculous deeds, whatever He wishes, comes to pass. ||8||
46444 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੫
ਨਿਰਾਹਾਰੀ ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ ਸਮਾਇਆ ॥
Niraahaaree Niravair Samaaeiaa ||
निराहारी निरवैरु समाइआ ॥
He is beyond need of any sustenance, free of hate and all-pervading.
46445 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੬
ਧਾਰਿ ਖੇਲੁ ਚਤੁਰਭੁਜੁ ਕਹਾਇਆ ॥
Dhhaar Khael Chathurabhuj Kehaaeiaa ||
धारि खेलु चतुरभुजु कहाइआ ॥
He has staged His play; He is called the four-armed Lord.
46446 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੬
ਸਾਵਲ ਸੁੰਦਰ ਰੂਪ ਬਣਾਵਹਿ ਬੇਣੁ ਸੁਨਤ ਸਭ ਮੋਹੈਗਾ ॥੯॥
Saaval Sundhar Roop Banaavehi Baen Sunath Sabh Mohaigaa ||9||
सावल सुंदर रूप बणावहि बेणु सुनत सभ मोहैगा ॥९॥
He assumed the beautiful form of the blue-skinned Krishna; hearing His flute, all are fascinated and enticed. ||9||
46447 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੬
ਬਨਮਾਲਾ ਬਿਭੂਖਨ ਕਮਲ ਨੈਨ ॥
Banamaalaa Bibhookhan Kamal Nain ||
बनमाला बिभूखन कमल नैन ॥
He is adorned with garlands of flowers, with lotus eyes.
46448 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੭
ਸੁੰਦਰ ਕੁੰਡਲ ਮੁਕਟ ਬੈਨ ॥
Sundhar Kunddal Mukatt Bain ||
सुंदर कुंडल मुकट बैन ॥
His ear-rings, crown and flute are so beautiful.
46449 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੭
ਸੰਖ ਚਕ੍ਰ ਗਦਾ ਹੈ ਧਾਰੀ ਮਹਾ ਸਾਰਥੀ ਸਤਸੰਗਾ ॥੧੦॥
Sankh Chakr Gadhaa Hai Dhhaaree Mehaa Saarathhee Sathasangaa ||10||
संख चक्र गदा है धारी महा सारथी सतसंगा ॥१०॥
He carries the conch, the chakra and the war club; He is the Great Charioteer, who stays with His Saints. ||10||
46450 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੭
ਪੀਤ ਪੀਤੰਬਰ ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਣ ਧਣੀ ॥
Peeth Peethanbar Thribhavan Dhhanee ||
पीत पीत्मबर त्रिभवण धणी ॥
The Lord of yellow robes, the Master of the three worlds.
46451 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੮
ਜਗੰਨਾਥੁ ਗੋਪਾਲੁ ਮੁਖਿ ਭਣੀ ॥
Jagannaathh Gopaal Mukh Bhanee ||
जगंनाथु गोपालु मुखि भणी ॥
The Lord of the Universe, the Lord of the world; with my mouth, I chant His Name.
46452 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੮
ਸਾਰਿੰਗਧਰ ਭਗਵਾਨ ਬੀਠੁਲਾ ਮੈ ਗਣਤ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਸਰਬੰਗਾ ॥੧੧॥
Saaringadhhar Bhagavaan Beethulaa Mai Ganath N Aavai Sarabangaa ||11||
सारिंगधर भगवान बीठुला मै गणत न आवै सरबंगा ॥११॥
The Archer who draws the bow, the Beloved Lord God; I cannot count all His limbs. ||11||
46453 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੮
ਨਿਹਕੰਟਕੁ ਨਿਹਕੇਵਲੁ ਕਹੀਐ ॥
Nihakanttak Nihakaeval Keheeai ||
निहकंटकु निहकेवलु कहीऐ ॥
He is said to be free of anguish, and absolutely immaculate.
46454 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੯
ਧਨੰਜੈ ਜਲਿ ਥਲਿ ਹੈ ਮਹੀਐ ॥
Dhhananjai Jal Thhal Hai Meheeai ||
धनंजै जलि थलि है महीऐ ॥
The Lord of prosperity, pervading the water, the land and the sky.
46455 ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੮੨ ਪੰ. ੧੯


Sikhism is a great religion. Where a leader of a religion (Guru Nanak) takes a Hindu (Bhai Bala) and a Muslim (Bhai Mardana) to spread the word of God all around the world. Which prophet or Daiti has done this before?
Our Harminder Sahib’s (the Golden Temple) foundation was layed by a Muslim Saint Miya Meer Ji. Tell me one Hindu Temple or Muslim Mosque where a person of another religion laid down the foundation brick. This is only done in Sikhi? Why? Because our Guru’s were progressive thinkers. We do not see difference between people from other religion. We all have light of the supreme lord in all of us. This is our Guru’s teaching.
In bad weather, Sikhs, Muslims and Hindus make good friends - The Times of India
There is a mosque ¼ km away from my Local Gurudawra . The mosque parking lot is very small. The worshippers had a real issue parking their car and many of them started getting parking tickets from the local police. Finally, our Gurudawara management came to know about the issue. We spoke to the leaders in the mosque and offered them to park their vehicle in Gurudwara’s parking lot. Now on Friday, many of the worshipers park their cars in our Sikh Temple parking lot and walk to the mosque for Friday prayers. This is the teaching of our Guru’s. No discrimination among people…regardless of their lineage, cast and religion and I can give you many historical examples from Guru’s History. https://www.google.ca/maps/dir/Anju...43604d!2m2!1d-79.650415!2d43.709558!3e2?hl=en

Hopefully this answers your statement
“I kno khalistani's agree wid d turks n persians.
R U khalistans nt reprogrammed monkeys made to do that??.
Like those monkeys in d hollywood movies Avatar?
Wher U capture n reprogramme a few to hate n bring down d rest??
U khalistani's r nothing more than Pakistans "useful idiots"”

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥
Naa Ham Hindhoo N Musalamaan ||
ना हम हिंदू न मुसलमान ॥
I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.
48603 ਭੈਰਉ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੧੩੬ ਪੰ. ੧੧

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥
Aleh Raam Kae Pindd Paraan ||4||
अलह राम के पिंडु परान ॥४॥
My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||
48604 ਭੈਰਉ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੧੩੬ ਪੰ. ੧੨

Now answering your question based on Low Caste treatment in Gurbani.
“Evn in d sikh scripture only d bani of lower castes begin by an introduction like 'bani namdev di, or kabir
or ravidas di. It's jus to remind d reader dat what he/she is abt to read now is something written by some
choodha, chamar or julaha. It's clear lower castes hv bin singled out. Ther's tirlochans bani, or d bhatt's,
but dey wer upper castes so no need was felt to inform d reader whose bani dey wer reading. Casteism??”

The way Guru Arjun structured the Bani was by Raags. What does this tell people of the world? I told once a music professor about Gurbani and how it is structured using Raags (music) and this person had tears in his eyes. Music has its own language. Music is forbidden in ISLAM and many Apes like you (who don’t think like humans) from Islam claim that Guru Nanak was a Muslim and they also claim Sikhs are part of Islam. Go figure. In every Raag, The Baani starts from First Guru (Mehal 1 is to describe to the reader it’s from Guru Nanak) Guru Nanak, and than Guru Angad (Mehal 2)and than Guru Amardas(Mehal 3), Guru Ramdas (Mehal 4), Guru Arjun(mehal 5) last Guru Teg Bahadur (mehal 9). Than the Bhagats and Bhatts bani will start after in the same raag. Even in Bhagat Baanis, how can a reader know who’s bani they are reading if their names is not identified? And you are using this structure of using Music (raag) of Guru Granth Sahib to make a claim that Guru Arjun is using Casteism? The readers of this form will really think you are out of your mind to make such statement. If Guru Arjun discriminated, why would he even put bani of Bhagats from Low Castes into Guru Granth Sahib in the first place and Sikh's bowing down to them. When you bring in these Gayaanless people working at the Gurudwaras, with brain of Apes, who have no knowledge of Guru Granth Sahib and its true teaching because they never read it and understood it. .that doesn't mean Guru Granth Sahib itself has problems. Its the people who have problems who came into Sikhi from Hinduism/Islam but still haven't accepted sikhi 100%. Still living their old way of life. They are Sheeps in the cloths of Lion.

ਭੈਰਉ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥
Bhairo Mehalaa 5 ||
भैरउ महला ५ ॥
Bhairao, Fifth Mehl:

ਵਰਤ ਨ ਰਹਉ ਨ ਮਹ ਰਮਦਾਨਾ ॥
Varath N Reho N Meh Ramadhaanaa ||
वरत न रहउ न मह रमदाना ॥
I do not keep fasts, nor do I observe the month of Ramadaan.
48595 ਭੈਰਉ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੧੩੬ ਪੰ. ੯

ਤਿਸੁ ਸੇਵੀ ਜੋ ਰਖੈ ਨਿਦਾਨਾ ॥੧॥
This Saevee Jo Rakhai Nidhaanaa ||1||
तिसु सेवी जो रखै निदाना ॥१॥
I serve only the One, who will protect me in the end. ||1||
48596 ਭੈਰਉ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੧੩੬ ਪੰ. ੯

ਏਕੁ ਗੁਸਾਈ ਅਲਹੁ ਮੇਰਾ ॥
Eaek Gusaaee Alahu Maeraa ||
एकु गुसाई अलहु मेरा ॥
The One Lord, the Lord of the World, is my God Allah.
48597 ਭੈਰਉ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੧੩੬ ਪੰ. ੯

ਹਿੰਦੂ ਤੁਰਕ ਦੁਹਾਂ ਨੇਬੇਰਾ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
Hindhoo Thurak Dhuhaan Naebaeraa ||1|| Rehaao ||
हिंदू तुरक दुहां नेबेरा ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥
He adminsters justice to both Hindus and Muslims. ||1||Pause||
48598 ਭੈਰਉ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੧੩੬ ਪੰ. ੧੦

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥
Haj Kaabai Jaao N Theerathh Poojaa ||
हज काबै जाउ न तीरथ पूजा ॥
I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.
48599 ਭੈਰਉ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੧੩੬ ਪੰ. ੧੦

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥
Eaeko Saevee Avar N Dhoojaa ||2||
एको सेवी अवरु न दूजा ॥२॥
I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||
48600 ਭੈਰਉ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੧੩੬ ਪੰ. ੧੦

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥
Poojaa Karo N Nivaaj Gujaaro ||
पूजा करउ न निवाज गुजारउ ॥
I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.
48601 ਭੈਰਉ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੧੩੬ ਪੰ. ੧੧
Raag Bhaira-o Guru Arjan Dev

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥
Eaek Nirankaar Lae Ridhai Namasakaaro ||3||
एक निरंकार ले रिदै नमसकारउ ॥३॥
I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||
48602 ਭੈਰਉ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੧੩੬ ਪੰ. ੧੧
Raag Bhaira-o Guru Arjan Dev
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ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥
Naa Ham Hindhoo N Musalamaan ||
ना हम हिंदू न मुसलमान ॥
I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.
48603 ਭੈਰਉ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੧੩੬ ਪੰ. ੧੧

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥
Aleh Raam Kae Pindd Paraan ||4||
अलह राम के पिंडु परान ॥४॥
My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||
48604 ਭੈਰਉ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੧੩੬ ਪੰ. ੧੨


ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥
Kahu Kabeer Eihu Keeaa Vakhaanaa ||
कहु कबीर इहु कीआ वखाना ॥
Says Kabeer, this is what I say:
48605 ਭੈਰਉ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੧੩੬ ਪੰ. ੧੨

Guru ji is refrencering kabeer here, in his own bani, which will later come in this Raag at Aang 1158 or so. How is this discrimination.?

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥
Gur Peer Mil Khudh Khasam Pashhaanaa ||5||3||
गुर पीर मिलि खुदि खसमु पछाना ॥५॥३॥
Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||
48606 ਭੈਰਉ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੧੩੬ ਪੰ. ੧੨

Now my Guru’s Bani has totally made all your claims false. Please stop spreading hate and false information to SIKHs. You can sell your BS to Ape Sikhs, but not to the SIKH’s who follow Guru Granth Religiously. Please don’t come back to this religious topic and never pick this useless fight with any sikh without knowing true meaning of SIKHI, its way of life and the great Teaching of GURU”S, BHAGATS and SAINTS. After reading this, you should know that Sikhs are neight Hindu Nor Muslims. They have their own way of life and stop wrapping them into blanket of Hinduism.

My aim here was not to disgr
 

Sadhu

Well-known member
Evn in d sikh scripture only d bani of lower castes begin by an introduction like 'bani namdev di, or kabir
or ravidas di. It's jus to remind d reader dat what he/she is abt to read now is something written by some
choodha, chamar or julaha. It's clear lower castes hv bin singled out. Ther's tirlochans bani, or d bhatt's,
but dey wer upper castes so no need was felt to inform d reader whose bani dey wer reading. Casteism??

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If Guru Arjun discriminated, why would he even put bani of Bhagats from Low Castes into Guru Granth Sahib
in the first place and Sikh's bowing down to them??

D bani is ther, n so is d reminder dat wat d reader is abt to read ws written by lower castes.
I nvr said guru arjan dev was a casteist. He may hv put dat reminder, he may hv not...
It's nt that additions wer nvr made in gurbani by ppl othr than d guru's.
Srichand made some additions, didn't he??
It's a historical fact n one cannot deny it.
N Srichand nvr followed in d footsteps or guru nanak.
He was an Udaseen Sadhu.

N d sikh hardly bow down to namdev, ravidas n kabir. Ther's not a smallest memorial in their name at d golden temple
bt a memorial for a terrorist bhinndrawalla is being planned just coz he ws upper caste. N I'm yet to see a sikh wearing
a t-shirt wid a picture of any of dese lower-caste guru's. I'm calling them guru b'coz guru gobind singh declared their bani
as gurbani, n if their bani is guru di bani then they r guru's... Bt will d sikh accept some lower-caste as guru's??
D hindu's accept ravidas n namdev n kabir as guru's.


Regarding all dat U say abt hindu's n hinduism I'm nt really surprised. D sikh scripture itself is more like a critique of
other religions n provides not much on it's own to add to human intellect. It says d same thing on every page : dat d
hindu's r stupid". Sikhism is d only religion in d world whose basis has been crticism of other religions. Bedi's n sodhi's
hv bin doing this since d days of luv-kush. So U see, guru nanak was nt d first bedi who offered water in d opposite
direction of d sun.

N namdevs, ravidas's n kabir's bani in d scripture is proof that 35% of d sikhi scripture is hindu.
35% of d hymns in d scrpture were written b4 nanak ws even born
 

kit walker

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Dear Manush you have mentioned that Bhagat Kabir, Bhagat Namdev, Bhagat Ravidass were hindu. Please explain that why they were not allowed to worship in temple/Masjid. Why they criticized Pandit and Maulvi in their Bani.
Bani in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji criticizes the falseness/Pakhand/Dual nature of the preachers of religions existing at that time.Telling them to leave this all and lead the people to true god. Bani shows us the way to get enlighten by meeting the true god/almighty who created all of us. The supporting shabads/references have been already quoted in above posts.
And do not go to sleep before remembering if there were no sikhs, who sacrificed themselves for the cause of others You would not been here as a Manush arguing in post with us but as a khan/ali

PS i ask for forgiveness for using harsh language. But i feel that it should be done .
 
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Manush!!

Why Bhagats were not given the status of a Guru?

You said 35% of the Bhagat Bani existed Before Guru Nanak.Meaning! Some bhagats were not available when Guruship was given. Meaning they had either died or lived before Guru Nanak. This takes them out of the game and I will explain to you why below. Now lets talk about the other 65%

Guru Nanak took test to find his successor among his two sons, baba budda ji, bhai lehna ji and many other devotes. After rigorous testing of his sons, he found none to be his successor. He tested many other Sikhs and they failed. Finally the only person who kept passing all the tests till the very end was Bhai Lehna Ji and he was given guruship and made him Guru Angad Dev. Where are the other 65% of the Bhagat Munash? Why weren’t they with guru Nanak and living with him night and day and serving him like a Guru. If you read history Manush, many Bhagats had their own Gurus.Kabeer had his Guru Swami Ramanand. Kabir didn’t make Guru Nanak his Guru, Bhai Lehna ( Guru Angad Dev Ji)did.



If you read the history, none of the Bhagats came to Guru Nanak to receive enlightenment or accepted him as Guru’s. If they have participated with others I have mentioned above and passed all the test of Guru Nanak, I am sure one of the Bhagats would have become SIKH Guru. So please explain to me How can the guruship be passed on to a person, who haven’t even took Charan Amrit from the guru and accepted Sikhi. Did seva, participated in Sikhi’s way of life and participated in the rigorous testing that was done to establish the rightful successor.So after Guru Angand found his successor in Guru Amardas( still none of the Bhagats appeared to participate in Sikhi)Guru Amardas after testing all his family members, found the successor in Guru Ramdas and Guru Ramdas, found successor in his Son Arjun. So! In the journey ofSikhi…From Guru Nanak to Guru Ramdas, none of these bhagats came to the Guru’s and accepted Sikhi. If they had, I am sure they would have been established Guru. So! stop spreading this toxic. Gos ell your BS to gayaanless people.

“D baniis ther, n so is d reminder dat wat d reader is abt to read ws written by lowercastes.”

Bhagat Dhaana is a Jatt. He is not lower caste as per the SC standard.Than why his bani is always at the end of every raag. Cuz you don’t even know the structure of Guru Granth and all you you can do is speak before doing your research. The bhagat bani with most number of shabad in any raag will come first and the bhagat will only one shabaad at very last.
Bhagat Kabir
224
Bhagat Namdev
61
Bhagat Ravidas
4
Bhagat Trilochan
4
Bhagat Farid
3
Bhagat Beni
3
Bhagat Dhanna
2
Bhagat Jaidev
2
Bhagat Bhikhan
1
Bhagat Parmanand
1
Bhagat Sain
1
Bhagat Sadhana
1
Bhagat Ramanand
1
Bhagat Surdas
1
Than sloks of Bhagat Fareed and Kabeer are without any raags close tothe end of Guru granth. Kabeer is called sharomani bhagat in Sikhi for his large number of Shabads.

And your other argument about the Bhaatts names were never mentioned because they were from higher cast. Please visit Ang 996 Ramkali Vaar. Here Balwand and Satah are called the drummer. Now where is your argument? These two are from higher caste. Your argument is flawed itself. Readers, please do not fall for traps from people like him. No Guru preached Casteism. Guru's teaching were to serve only one true Lord. Lord of the universe, Akal Purak and its creation. All his creation is equal. People like Manush either have hidden agenda, or have been influenced by people with deeper hidden agenda. Sikhi doesn't talk about about any other religion but criticizes the malpractice of their preachers.
ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਕੀ ਵਾਰ ਰਾਇ ਬਲਵੰਡਿ ਤਥਾ ਸਤੈ ਡੂਮਿ ਆਖੀ
Raamakalee Kee Vaar Raae Balavandd Thathhaa Sathai Ddoom Aakhee
रामकली की वार राइ बलवंडि तथा सतै डूमि आखी
Vaar Of Raamkalee, Uttered By Satta And Balwand The Drummer:
ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥
Ik Oankaar Sathigur Prasaadh ||
ੴ सतिगुर प्रसादि ॥
One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:
ਨਾਉ ਕਰਤਾ ਕਾਦਰੁ ਕਰੇ ਕਿਉ ਬੋਲੁ ਹੋਵੈ ਜੋਖੀਵਦੈ ॥
Naao Karathaa Kaadhar Karae Kio Bol Hovai Jokheevadhai ||
नाउ करता कादरु करे किउ बोलु होवै जोखीवदै ॥
One who chants the Name of the Almighty Creator - how can his words be judged?
ਦੇ ਗੁਨਾ ਸਤਿ ਭੈਣ ਭਰਾਵ ਹੈ ਪਾਰੰਗਤਿ ਦਾਨੁ ਪੜੀਵਦੈ ॥
Dhae Gunaa Sath Bhain Bharaav Hai Paarangath Dhaan Parreevadhai ||
दे गुना सति भैण भराव है पारंगति दानु पड़ीवदै ॥
His divine virtues are the true sisters and brothers; through them, the gift of supreme status is obtained.
ਨਾਨਕਿ ਰਾਜੁ ਚਲਾਇਆ ਸਚੁ ਕੋਟੁ ਸਤਾਣੀ ਨੀਵ ਦੈ ॥
Naanak Raaj Chalaaeiaa Sach Kott Sathaanee Neev Dhai ||
नानकि राजु चलाइआ सचु कोटु सताणी नीव दै ॥
Nanak established the kingdom; He built the true fortress on the strongest foundations.
ਲਹਣੇ ਧਰਿਓਨੁ ਛਤੁ ਸਿਰਿ ਕਰਿ ਸਿਫਤੀ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਪੀਵਦੈ ॥
Lehanae Dhharioun Shhath Sir Kar Sifathee Anmrith Peevadhai ||
लहणे धरिओनु छतु सिरि करि सिफती अम्रितु पीवदै ॥
He installed the royal canopy over Lehna's head; chanting the Lord's Praises, He drank in the Ambrosial Nectar.
ਮਤਿ ਗੁਰ ਆਤਮ ਦੇਵ ਦੀ ਖੜਗਿ ਜੋਰਿ ਪਰਾਕੁਇ ਜੀਅ ਦੈ ॥
Math Gur Aatham Dhaev Dhee Kharrag Jor Paraakue Jeea Dhai ||
मति गुर आतम देव दी खड़गि जोरि पराकुइ जीअ दै ॥
The Guru implanted the almighty sword of the Teachings to illuminate his soul.
41542 ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਕੀ ਵਾਰ:੩ (ਭ. ਬਲਵੰਡ ਸਤਾ) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੯੬੬ ਪੰ. ੧੭
ਗੁਰਿ ਚੇਲੇ ਰਹਰਾਸਿ ਕੀਈ ਨਾਨਕਿ ਸਲਾਮਤਿ ਥੀਵਦੈ ॥
Gur Chaelae Reharaas Keeee Naanak Salaamath Thheevadhai ||
गुरि चेले रहरासि कीई नानकि सलामति थीवदै ॥
The Guru bowed down to His disciple, while Nanak was still alive.
ਸਹਿ ਟਿਕਾ ਦਿਤੋਸੁ ਜੀਵਦੈ ॥੧॥
Sehi Ttikaa Dhithos Jeevadhai ||1||
सहि टिका दितोसु जीवदै ॥१॥
The King, while still alive, applied the ceremonial mark to his forehead. ||1||

ਲਹਣੇ ਦੀ ਫੇਰਾਈਐ ਨਾਨਕਾ ਦੋਹੀ ਖਟੀਐ ॥
Lehanae Dhee Faeraaeeai Naanakaa Dhohee Khatteeai ||
लहणे दी फेराईऐ नानका दोही खटीऐ ॥
Nanak proclaimed Lehna's succession - he earned it.

ਜੋਤਿ ਓਹਾ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਸਾਇ ਸਹਿ ਕਾਇਆ ਫੇਰਿ ਪਲਟੀਐ ॥
Joth Ouhaa Jugath Saae Sehi Kaaeiaa Faer Palatteeai ||
जोति ओहा जुगति साइ सहि काइआ फेरि पलटीऐ ॥
They shared the One Light and the same way; the King just changed His body.

ਝੁਲੈ ਸੁ ਛਤੁ ਨਿਰੰਜਨੀ ਮਲਿ ਤਖਤੁ ਬੈਠਾ ਗੁਰ ਹਟੀਐ ॥
Jhulai S Shhath Niranjanee Mal Thakhath Baithaa Gur Hatteeai ||
झुलै सु छतु निरंजनी मलि तखतु बैठा गुर हटीऐ ॥
The immaculate canopy waves over Him, and He sits on the throne in the Guru's shop.

ਕਰਹਿ ਜਿ ਗੁਰ ਫੁਰਮਾਇਆ ਸਿਲ ਜੋਗੁ ਅਲੂਣੀ ਚਟੀਐ ॥
Karehi J Gur Furamaaeiaa Sil Jog Aloonee Chatteeai ||
करहि जि गुर फुरमाइआ सिल जोगु अलूणी चटीऐ ॥


Guru Arjun only complied the bani of Bhagats because it matched Guru's progressive thinking and belief in one Almighty. He received the bani of Guru Nanak to Guru Ramdas and some banis of bhagat which were collected by Guru Nanak Dev ji and he explains his joy in this shabaad below. This is the moment guru arjun dev ji decided to compile a granth of this wealth. Guru Arjun started searching other Bhagaats bani who matched sikhi beliefs.
ਪੀਊ ਦਾਦੇ ਕਾ ਖੋਲਿ ਡਿਠਾ ਖਜਾਨਾ ॥
Peeoo Dhaadhae Kaa Khol Ddithaa Khajaanaa ||
पीऊ दादे का खोलि डिठा खजाना ॥
ਜਦੋਂ ਮੈਂ ਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਦੇਵ ਤੋਂ ਲੈ ਕੇ ਸਾਰੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਾਹਿਬਾਨ ਦਾ ਬਾਣੀ ਦਾ ਖ਼ਜ਼ਾਨਾ ਖੋਲ੍ਹ ਕੇ ਵੇਖਿਆ,
ਖੋਲਿ = ਖੋਲ੍ਹ ਕੇ।

ਤਾ ਮੇਰੈ ਮਨਿ ਭਇਆ ਨਿਧਾਨਾ ॥੧॥
Thaa Maerai Man Bhaeiaa Nidhhaanaa ||1||
ता मेरै मनि भइआ निधाना ॥१॥
ਤਦੋਂ ਮੇਰੇ ਮਨ ਵਿਚ ਆਤਮਕ ਆਨੰਦ ਦਾ ਭੰਡਾਰ ਭਰਿਆ ਗਿਆ ॥੧॥
ਤਾ = ਤਦੋਂ। ਮਨਿ = ਮਨ ਵਿਚ। ਨਿਧਾਨਾ = ਖ਼ਜ਼ਾਨਾ ॥੧॥
ਜਦੋਂ ਮੈਂ ਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਦੇਵ ਤੋਂ ਲੈ ਕੇ ਸਾਰੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਾਹਿਬਾਨ ਦਾ ਬਾਣੀ ਦਾ ਖ਼ਜ਼ਾਨਾ ਖੋਲ੍ਹ ਕੇ ਵੇਖਿਆ, ਤਦੋਂ ਮੇਰੇ ਮਨ ਵਿਚ ਆਤਮਕ ਆਨੰਦ ਦਾ ਭੰਡਾਰ ਭਰਿਆ ਗਿਆ ॥੧॥

ਰਤਨ ਲਾਲ ਜਾ ਕਾ ਕਛੂ ਨ ਮੋਲੁ ॥
Rathan Laal Jaa Kaa Kashhoo N Mol ||
रतन लाल जा का कछू न मोलु ॥
ਇਸ ਖ਼ਜ਼ਾਨੇ ਵਿਚ ਪਰਮਾਤਮਾ ਦੀ ਸਿਫ਼ਤ-ਸਾਲਾਹ ਦੇ ਅਮੋਲਕ ਰਤਨਾਂ ਲਾਲਾਂ ਦੇ-
ਜਾ ਕਾ = ਜਿਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦਾ।

ਭਰੇ ਭੰਡਾਰ ਅਖੂਟ ਅਤੋਲ ॥੨॥
Bharae Bhanddaar Akhoott Athol ||2||
भरे भंडार अखूट अतोल ॥२॥
ਭੰਡਾਰੇ ਭਰੇ ਹੋਏ (ਮੈਂ ਵੇਖੇ), ਜੇਹੜੇ ਕਦੇ ਮੁੱਕ ਨਹੀਂ ਸਕਦੇ, ਜੇਹੜੇ, ਤੋਲੇ ਨਹੀਂ ਜਾ ਸਕਦੇ ॥੨॥
ਅਖੂਟ = ਨਾਹ ਮੁੱਕਣ ਵਾਲੇ ॥੨॥
ਇਸ ਖ਼ਜ਼ਾਨੇ ਵਿਚ ਪਰਮਾਤਮਾ ਦੀ ਸਿਫ਼ਤ-ਸਾਲਾਹ ਦੇ ਅਮੋਲਕ ਰਤਨਾਂ ਲਾਲਾਂ ਦੇ ਭੰਡਾਰੇ ਭਰੇ ਹੋਏ (ਮੈਂ ਵੇਖੇ), ਜੇਹੜੇ ਕਦੇ ਮੁੱਕ ਨਹੀਂ ਸਕਦੇ, ਜੇਹੜੇ, ਤੋਲੇ ਨਹੀਂ ਜਾ ਸਕਦੇ ॥੨॥

ਖਾਵਹਿ ਖਰਚਹਿ ਰਲਿ ਮਿਲਿ ਭਾਈ ॥
Khaavehi Kharachehi Ral Mil Bhaaee ||
खावहि खरचहि रलि मिलि भाई ॥
ਹੇ ਭਾਈ! ਜੇਹੜੇ ਮਨੁੱਖ (ਸਤਸੰਗ ਵਿਚ) ਇਕੱਠੇ ਹੋ ਕੇ ਇਹਨਾਂ ਭੰਡਾਰਿਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਆਪ ਵਰਤਦੇ ਹਨ ਤੇ ਹੋਰਨਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਭੀ ਵੰਡਦੇ ਹਨ,
ਰਲਿ ਮਿਲਿ = ਇਕੱਠੇ ਹੋ ਕੇ।

ਤੋਟਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਵਧਦੋ ਜਾਈ ॥੩॥
Thott N Aavai Vadhhadho Jaaee ||3||
तोटि न आवै वधदो जाई ॥३॥
ਉਹਨਾਂ ਦੇ ਪਾਸ ਇਸ ਖ਼ਜ਼ਾਨੇ ਦੀ ਕਮੀ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੁੰਦੀ, ਸਗੋਂ ਹੋਰ ਹੋਰ ਵਧਦਾ ਹੈ ॥੩॥
ਹੇ ਭਾਈ! ਜੇਹੜੇ ਮਨੁੱਖ (ਸਤਸੰਗ ਵਿਚ) ਇਕੱਠੇ ਹੋ ਕੇ ਇਹਨਾਂ ਭੰਡਾਰਿਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਆਪ ਵਰਤਦੇ ਹਨ ਤੇ ਹੋਰਨਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਭੀ ਵੰਡਦੇ ਹਨ, ਉਹਨਾਂ ਦੇ ਪਾਸ ਇਸ ਖ਼ਜ਼ਾਨੇ ਦੀ ਕਮੀ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੁੰਦੀ, ਸਗੋਂ ਹੋਰ ਹੋਰ ਵਧਦਾ ਹੈ ॥੩॥

ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਜਿਸੁ ਮਸਤਕਿ ਲੇਖੁ ਲਿਖਾਇ ॥
Kahu Naanak Jis Masathak Laekh Likhaae ||
कहु नानक जिसु मसतकि लेखु लिखाइ ॥
(ਪਰ) ਨਾਨਕ ਆਖਦਾ ਹੈ- ਜਿਸ ਮਨੁੱਖ ਦੇ ਮੱਥੇ ਉਤੇ ਪਰਮਾਤਮਾ ਦੀ ਬਖ਼ਸ਼ਸ਼ ਦਾ ਲੇਖ ਲਿਖਿਆ ਹੁੰਦਾ ਹੈ,
ਮਸਤਕਿ = ਮੱਥੇ ਉਤੇ।

ਸੁ ਏਤੁ ਖਜਾਨੈ ਲਇਆ ਰਲਾਇ ॥੪॥੩੧॥੧੦੦॥
S Eaeth Khajaanai Laeiaa Ralaae ||4||31||100||
सु एतु खजानै लइआ रलाइ ॥४॥३१॥१००॥
ਉਹੀ ਇਸ (ਸਿਫ਼ਤ-ਸਾਲਾਹ ਦੇ) ਖ਼ਜ਼ਾਨੇ ਵਿਚ ਸਾਂਝੀਵਾਲ ਬਣਾਇਆ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ (ਭਾਵ, ਉਹੀ ਸਾਧ ਸੰਗਤਿ ਵਿਚ ਆ ਕੇ ਸਿਫ਼ਤ-ਸਾਲਾਹ ਦੀ ਬਾਣੀ ਦਾ ਆਨੰਦ ਮਾਣਦਾ ਹੈ) ॥੪॥੩੧॥੧੦੦॥
ਏਤੁ = ਇਸ ਵਿਚ। ਏਤੁ ਖਜਾਨੈ = ਇਸ ਖ਼ਜ਼ਾਨੇ ਵਿਚ ॥੪॥
(ਪਰ) ਨਾਨਕ ਆਖਦਾ ਹੈ- ਜਿਸ ਮਨੁੱਖ ਦੇ ਮੱਥੇ ਉਤੇ ਪਰਮਾਤਮਾ ਦੀ ਬਖ਼ਸ਼ਸ਼ ਦਾ ਲੇਖ ਲਿਖਿਆ ਹੁੰਦਾ ਹੈ, ਉਹੀ ਇਸ (ਸਿਫ਼ਤ-ਸਾਲਾਹ ਦੇ) ਖ਼ਜ਼ਾਨੇ ਵਿਚ ਸਾਂਝੀਵਾਲ ਬਣਾਇਆ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ (ਭਾਵ, ਉਹੀ ਸਾਧ ਸੰਗਤ ਵਿਚ ਆ ਕੇ ਸਿਫ਼ਤ-ਸਾਲਾਹ ਦੀ ਬਾਣੀ ਦਾ ਆਨੰਦ ਮਾਣਦਾ ਹੈ) ॥੪॥੩੧॥੧੦੦॥


Srichandmade some additions, didn't he??
It's a historical fact n one cannot deny it.”

Please quote and provide us with proof and we will discuss your allegations in detail.

“N d sikhhardly bow down to namdev, ravidas n kabir. Ther's not a smallest memorial intheir name at d golden temple bt a memorial for a terrorist bhinndrawalla isbeing planned just coz he ws upper caste. N I'm yet to see a sikh wearing at-shirt wid a picture of any of dese lower-caste guru's. I'm calling them gurub'coz guru gobind singh declared their banias gurbani, n if their bani is gurudi bani then they r guru's... Bt will d sikh accept some lower-caste asguru's??

I explained above why Bhagats couldn't become Guru. Guru Gobind Singh gave guruship to the Granth which is complied of everyone’s teaching (Guru's & bhagats) and Sikhs do bow down to the teaching of Ravidas, Namdev, and Kabir and everyone else's bani in Guru Granth Sahib.

Where is a Memorial of Guru Nanak, Guru Angad, Guru Amardas, 7th,8th & 9th & 10th guru at the Golden Temple? Our ninth guru was shot while going to Harminder sahib by mahants and dheirmal.Our tenth Guru never visited Harminder Shaib and it’s a totally different subject to why. Lots of background involved in this topic.

So coming back to your argument. The memorial of His Honor, Sant Shaheed Sadar Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale’s (and all True SIKH's respect & honor him..so burn MF) . Have you seen memorial of Baba Deep Singh ji? Why was his memorial built? His memorial was built because he died protecting our Harminder Sahib. What Sant Ji did also, He and many other Sikh's died protecting our Hari Mandir from the Indian Army. The matter of building memorials are up to Sikh Panth, not to TOM, HARRY & DICK like yourself. We are not going to consult with you whose memorial we are going to build. We get together as a panth and decide what we want to do. So buzz off.

“D hindu's accept ravidas n namdev n kabir as guru's.”
Really! So why the Kabir Panthi’s look at SGGS as the real authenticated reference of bani of Bhagat kabeer (cuz your RSS have created so many false bani to taint Kabir as womanizer, druggy and alcoholic) Hindu’s don’t accept ravidas,namdev and kabir as guru…their followers do. Ravidasiyeh, Namdev Bhagats, Kabir Panthis. Those followers could be from any religion.

Like someone coming into Sikhi will accept Guru Granth and Ten Guru’s as his/her Guru. A hindu bhagat will go to a Saadhu and make him his Guru. (in clear context, like a person want to learn Sitaar, will make a music instructor his GURU) Gu is Sanskrit word for Utter Darkness and Ru is Ray of Light. GURU is someone who takes a person from utter darkness to path of light (GOD).

Please I have asked you before, STOP STOP STOP, Comparing Apples and Oranges. Learn the deeper meaning, you do not have deeper understanding about religion but you love to argue over religious topics.

Regardingall dat U say abt hindu's n hinduism I'm nt really surprised. D sikh scriptureitself is more like a critique of other religions n provides not much on it'sown to add to human intellect.

So Guru Gobind Singh was stupid to say, Jo Prab Ko Milvauch Hai, Khoj Shabad Mein Leh. Because all it is a critique of other religions my dear Sikhs, and you will not learn any human intellect out of it. Guru Granth Sahib was given respect from 5th till 10th Guru's. They all sat lower to the ADI granth. To the teaching of all Guru's and Bhagats. If Manush you knew the respect our own Guru's had for bhagats bani, than you wouldn't have said Guru Arjun Discriminated by adding name of Bhagats to show they are from lower caste. You are a Att Maha Moorakh Manush...profound ignorant.

It says d same thing on every page : dat d hindu'sr stupid".
Over 1400 pages and all guru’s & Bhagats had to say was hindu’s are stupid. Very good. We all know it is not true. They criticised people in those religion who mislead and mistreated people. Not following Dharma with compassion to all mankind and kudrat of akal purak.
Sikhismis d only religion in d world whose basis has been crticism of other religions.Bedi's n sodhi'shv bin doing this since d days of luv-kush. So U see, gurunanak was nt d first bedi who offered water in d opposite direction of d sun.
I am glad you brought this up that Bedi’s and Sodhi’s have been doingthis since the day of Luv-Kush. If you know Bedi’s and Sodhis do not agree withHinduism, why is your kind are trying so HARD to prove to everyone that GuruNanak is a Hindu. You have said it yourself, that all his Bedi/Sodhi ancestorsdo not agree with your relgion. SO whyare you taking their liability. Throw them out of Hinduism if you accept GuruNanak isn’t the first bedi who offered water in the opposite direction of the sun.

I want to leave the readers with Baba Srichand efforts in Sikhi. Do not let fools like Manush mislead you. The udaseen sadu’s have done so much for Sikhi. They have spreads sikhi more than Sikhs themselves.
Here is a quote from Baba Gobind Das (udaseen panth)
‘What throne of a kingdomdid Baba Siri Chand occupy you tell me? Or, did Guru Nanak have such a throneso as he had to have a successor? Were they kings of some state? Guru Nanak wasno king of some kingdom. He occupied the throne... of devotion. Thus Guru MaharajBaba Sri Chand Ji made his throne of devotion to God separate. In which thereis no attachment and renunciation of every type, as is also found in Guru Nanakas well. Father and son appreciated that each other's way of life wasdifferent, so they each taught their ways separately. The difference that wasthat Baba Sri Chand became the teacher of Udasis because one was a house holder[Guru Nanak] and one unattached [Baba Sri Chand].’ ‘Maharaj [Baba Sri Chand]preaching of Guru Granth that the Udasis have done in India all over. In allplaces, history shows, using Gutkas [small Sikh prayer books] we spread. Wetaught all to read Sikh scriptures. This is the gift of the holy men, theUdasis. They [S.G.P.C. Akalis] cannot even in seven lifetimes preach as much asthe Udhasis and Nirmalas have done and are still doing now. Even now, wheneverwe preach [to Hindus] we always without exception include teachings from [Adi]Guru Granth Sahib. We give examples [from Sikh history] of how you shouldfollow the footsteps of the Gurus. Then your suffering shall be removed. Onlythen can your thinking and mind can come pure. That is if you desire OhBrother, otherwise, it is up to you.’ (Baba Gobind Das, transcript of arecording, 16-02-2001)

I will leave the reader with the first encounter of our 4th Guru, Guru Ramdas and Baba SriChand when he came to Amritsar. When Guru Ramdas heard that Sahibzada of Guru Nanak is coming to Amritsar, the 4th guru walked out to receive him with many other Sikh. When Baba Srichand arrived at Amritsar, The first question he asked Guru Ramdas, what is this long beard for? (Guru Ramdas had a very long beard) Guru Ramdas said, I have kept this long beard to clean feets of sadu’s like yourself. Guru Ramndas went down to the feet of Sri Chand and started to clean baba's ji feet with his beard. Baba shrichand stopped Guru Ramdas and stood him up and hugged him and said, only cuz of this nimrataa, you became successors of Guru Nanak’s Guruship. You took guru gaadi from us (me and my brother) and I am happy that you did, because you are the rightful owners. People like Manush are dividing Sikhs by spreading toxics and nonsense without any solid proof. All his allegations are false and this is how difference between sikhs have been created and now we have Ramdasiya Gurudwara, Jatt Gurudwara and Ramghariya Gurudwaras. Please do not fall for people like him because this is their main hidden agenda and motive..to spread hate between sikhs regarding their guru’s and castes bhagatbelong to. Please readers, get educated about Sikhi and its way of life. Readand understanding deeper meaning of Gurbani. Ask question to GurSikhs and sikh scholars.
ਗੁਰੂ ਨੇ ਆਪਣੀ ਮੱਤ ਆਪਣੇ ਪਿਆਰੇ ਸਿੱਖਾ ਨੂੰ ਦੇਕੇ, ਇਸ ਬੰਦਾ ਦਾ ਐਨੀ ਵਾਰੀ ਮੂ੍ੰਹ ਕਾਲਾ ਕਰ ਦਿੱਤਾ, ਪਰ ਫਿਰ ਵੀ ਇਹ ਇਨਸਾਨ ਨੂੰ ਸਮਝ ਨਹੀ ਆਉਦੀ. ਵਾਹਿਗੁ੍ਰੂ ਇਸ ਮੂਰਖ ਇਨਸਾਨ ਨੁੰ ਸਮੱਤ ਬੱਖਸੇ. All he is going to do is continuing talking trash about our Guru's and our way of life. please mod's close this thread.
 
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Dear Manush you have mentioned that Bhagat Kabir, Bhagat Namdev, Bhagat Ravidass were hindu.
Please explain that why they were not allowed to worship in temple/Masjid. Why they criticized Pandit and Maulvi in their Bani.

Namdev critised dem b'coz dey wer wrong. Today he wud hv criticised d granthi's n d panj-pyara's of d akal takht who don't allow anyone
who is nt a keshdhari to evn touch d guru-granth, or don't allow women to perform keertan at d golden temple. Hindu women priests
r performing marriages n even d final rites of d deceased at many places. Sikh don't allow their woman to even accompany at d
crematorium. It's sikhism dat is regressive. Hinduism changes wid d times. Sikhism is incapable of doing dat. Hindu's hv moved ahead.
It's d sikh who r caught in a time warp.. I'll call sikhism progressive d day I see sikh woman priests performing d final rites on d dead..
d day d upper caste priests of d akal-takht stop seeing women as unclean n allow dem to perform kirtan at d golden temple...

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Bhagat Dhaana is a Jatt. He is not lower caste as per the SC standard.
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I nvr said dhanna was a lower-caste. All I said dat d lower castes wer singled out. Dat only d bani of lower castes begin with an introduction
like 'bani namdev di, or kabir or ravidas di. It's jus to remind d reader dat what he/she is abt to read now is something written by some
choodha, chamar or julaha. Dats was I said

Our Harminder Sahib’s (the Golden Temple) foundation was layed by a Muslim Saint Miya Meer Ji. Tell me one Hindu Temple
or Muslim Mosque where a person of another religion laid down the foundation brick.
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U guys keep telling that to urself. bt u'll nvr tell ur children dat d structure of d harmandir sahib stands today was built by d hindu's, n dat
d structure of d Golden temple dat stands today ws built under d supervision of Maratha chiefs, Raghunath Rao and Malhar Rao Holkar,
who paid for it's reconstruction ( if dat is nt d greatness of hinduism I wonder wat else wud b ) n received ceremonial robes of honour
from its head priest. It ws d Marathas liberated amritsar n thus d golden temple from d muslims in 1778. D maratha victory ws short-lived
tho, bt it ws dey who had weakened d mughal might wich later led to sikh victories. N U khalistani's also lie to ur own children dat guru
gobind singh dies fighting d maratha's wen d truth is dat he was killed in his sleep by a 10 yr muslim boy who he had provided refuge.

So a muslim laid d foundation stone. It proves nothing. Abt Islams arrogance horn out of military superiority Nanak says:
musalmanu momdil hovai antar ki . . .
mal dil te dhovai,
duniya rang na avai nede jio
Kusum pat ghio pak hara
--Sri Guru Granth Sahib, Maru-V. 13 iii. 12

U can get a muslim to lay d foundation stone for ram mandir in ayodhya. Bt will he evr pay for it's construction?

Once Bhagat madev Ji entered this mandir and was Promptly KICKED OUT of iyt by the Pandits for being a SHUDRA LOW CASTE.
Bhagat ji took his blanket and did samadhi at the BACK of the mandir and Prayed to HIS "BEETHAL = WAHEGURU=AKAL PURAKH"
....as to WHY he is being discriminated like this just becasue of his LOW CASTE....and Low and Behold..the MANDIR ROTATED on its
FOUNDATION to FACE Bhagat namdev Ji sitting at its BACK..
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So U see, d krishna temple rotated to face namdev, a low caste. Wat does it prove, except dat such brahmins r wrong. It dsn't prove
dat hinduism is wrong. I'm yet to see a guru-dwara rotate to face all those homeless tramps who r nt allowd inside even on langar day.
N namdev ws an idol worshipper. It ws a Vitthoba temple, n it ws nt d temple dat turned around. It ws d idol of Vitthoba iside actually d
idol of Vithoba dat turned around so d temple turned around. D temple is stii ther.Now d temple is named after namdev. I'm yet to see
a gurudwara named after a lower-caste sikh sant. N I'm hoping d gurudwara dat is built in d satara district of maharashtra is named
after namdev. But nobody is going to do dat. Coz he was a shudra. Dey hvn't built a memorial in his name at d golden temple. Ther's
nt a single gurudwara named after lower-caste sants. Dey r building memorials in upper-caste bhindrawallas name wen he ws no sant
n infact ws a criminal n a murderer of sants, most of them sikh sants. He ws just an upper-caste terrorist n a chronic womaniser...


Mod's please close the thread

It means U r beginning to agree with me... It happens
 
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