Dasam Granth Discussion

Mahaj

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PHir @Mahaj derrya te jayaaan kar :haha

dere vale te vaise jayda waheguru waheguru karvaunde ne ....khair
mein dere, maseeti, gurdware jaan di lorr nai samjda.... avven marble ganda hoju lol
 

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phir o kam kar jinna ne marble ganda kitta saaf karan di khoshish ......
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Mahaj

YodhaFakeeR
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phir o kam kar jinna ne marble ganda kitta saaf karan di khoshish ......
@Mahaj

sorry ...i have bunch of other stuff to do ..... may be later when i m done with it ... nale vaise v mein gurdwarey naa te jana na ee jarurat samjda...fer jehre jande aa ape saaf kar lenge ...ikala karah khaan thora jande hoonge ...manu te bhala pata nai
 

Dhillon

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naam jappo, te bani aap paro te holi holi aap hi samjhan di koshish karo......Gurmukhi ch hath strong karo :)

won't help, people have preformed beliefs. anything that goes against the beliefs will be ignored.
 

Mahaj

YodhaFakeeR
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^^ So tragic ehh ...thats why its "nayara"...you wont find many ppl having intellect level like pps and even urself ...tud dhade ko virla jane...
RAAM RAAM KARTA SABB JAGG PHIREY ....RAAM NA PAYIA JAYEEEEEE
bhagta ki chaal niraali
good thing digitalization of adi granth ....you can read it having a cup of coffee and can sharp your wisdom anytime anywhere yaaaaayyyyyy lol
 

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*FrOzEn TeARs*
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intellect level like pps and even urself ...
and jurself^^:p
 

Mahaj

YodhaFakeeR
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and jurself^^:p

mein te das ...panth da jachak aa ji ..gurughar da kutta ..nimana ji ...lol jk i m not here to take donations ..lol
mein te fer sippea hoea ee badshah banda you knoe ....and you also ..but if you quit badmashi :Smirk .....you will top the list ..i swear lol
your next post
thread na eder uder karo .....topic te raho topic te lol
 

Yaar Punjabi

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Meaning of Deh Shiva Var Mohe Ahe,
Shiva" is the term used in Brij Bhasha which means the Liberator, defending my this claim

some people think that Guru Gobind singh ji worship shivji hindhu god
But Guru Gobind Singh ji answer himself

ਸ਼ਿਵ ਸਹੰਸ ਬਰਖ ਲੌ ਜੋਗ ਕੀਨ ॥ ਤਜਿ ਨੇਹ ਗੇਹ ਬਨਬਾਸ ਲੀਨ ॥
Shiva practiced Yoga for thousands of years; he left his home and all attachment and resided in the forest;

ਬਹੁ ਕੀਨ ਜੋਗਿ ਤਹ ਬਹੁ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਰ ॥ ਨਹੀ ਤਦਿਪ ਤਾਸ ਲਹਿ ਸਕਾ ਪਾਰ ॥੮੨॥
He also practiced Yoga in various ways, but still he could not know His end.82.

Mahadev ko kehat sada shiv, nirankar ka cheenat nahin bhiv
People follow Mahadev and call him shiv, They do not know about the God who is nir-akaar (formless...
 

Dhillon

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Even If Guru ji has mentioned the characters from Mythology why does it hurt our feelings ?

Deh Shiva is part of Chandi Charitar and in the very beginning God is attributed as-

The Lord is Primal, Infinite, Account less, Boundless, Deathless, Garbless, Incomprehensible and Eternal. He created Siv-Sakti, four Vedas and three modes of maya and Pervades in three worlds. He created day and night, the lamps of sun and moon and the whole world with five elements. He extended enmity and fight between the gods and demons and Himself seated (on His Throne) scans it.1.
 

Mahaj

YodhaFakeeR
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Mentioning doest mean worshipping .....and how does it even hurt.... make your point lil extra clear ...pata jeha nao lagea
 

Dhillon

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^ ' Deh Shiva Var Mohe Ahe' sounds like a prayer to me.
 

Mahaj

YodhaFakeeR
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bhaji sari gal parni pendi aa...read the next four lines of same shabad....Ruder ras di gal ho rahi aa..... oss ton uper chandi di ... pehla hakam di gal hoi ...fer hukam di gal hoi ...fer hukam di shakti di .... ruder ras nu samjan lai ruder avtar nu dekhna painda....ruder avtar ch shiv "hukam" aayan father of universe
shiv, shivae , shiva even these three doesnt mean same thing
same as parmaatma and parmeshwar doesn't mean same thing
MOREOVER .... NOBODY freaking NOBODY(INCLUDING HINDUISM) CAN DEFINE SHIV
vedas vich hor defination a , shiv puran vich hor aa...and ganesh ali vich hor aa....
P.S
shiva and shiv shakti is also mentioned adi granth ...thou concept is same

For youth
j koi thnu aa k patshai 10 te shiv da link puchda
ohna nu kaho k pehla shivji daso kaun aa...veda kuch hor kehnde aa puran kuch hor ..pehla app pata karlo k shiv da te thda ki link aa
 

Dhillon

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According to Shaivism, the oldest hindu ideology. Shiva is the supreme being who created Brahma,Vishnu,Shivji, all other gods and everything else.

You are talking on the same lines. how come a Sikh after reading Dasam Granth is alike a Shiv Bhagat :-?
 

Mahaj

YodhaFakeeR
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same as sikh reading adi granth is alike ram bhagat
ram ras piya rey
mere ram raye ...
but unfortunately
logan ram khilona jana......
 

Jus

Filhaal..
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According to Shaivism, the oldest hindu ideology. Shiva is the supreme being who created Brahma,Vishnu,Shivji, all other gods and everything else.

You are talking on the same lines. how come a Sikh after reading Dasam Granth is alike a Shiv Bhagat :-?


It's Hindu mythology, not Hindu ideology.
 

Dhillon

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Ok, I did bit more digging about 'Dasam Granth' and now serious doubts that it is authored by our Guru.

Almost half of the Granth is just lewd literature.

Google 'Charitropakhyan or triya charitar'

i'd really like to be wrong on this.
 

Mahaj

YodhaFakeeR
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Chapter of human reproduction would be entirely different to a 15 year old and 30 year old doctor
 

Dhillon

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Thanks for sharing the 'quote of the day' with us :)

Now introduce yourself to 'Charitropakhyan' and we'll continue.
 

Mahaj

YodhaFakeeR
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sarcasm ..? if yes
how about if you introduce yourself to adi granth first ..?
 
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