sikh dharam vich treran

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SSA ji

Ithias de panyan nu apne khoon nal shingaran vali kaum de bare main kuch kehan ja riha han, je kuch mere kolon galat keh ho jave tan main shuru karan ton pehlan hi mafi mangda han


shuru karda han sikhan di bhadri te ohna nal hunde aye dhake ton,

1)sunya hai abdali da moon koi nahin si mor sakya, kyun ke jo vi ohde nal takra karda si oh khatam ho janda si,par sikhan ne us nal takra liya te us nu punjab ch lut machaun ton thal payi, hindu,muslim aurtan diyan izatan bachayian, ohna di rakhi kiti, te hindu jat ne 1948 ch a ke sikhan da katleam kar ke, sikh aurtan di izat lut ke chan ga sila dita

2)azadi ton bad jvahar lal nahru ne sikhan nal vahda khilafi kiti(punjabi soobe bare) eh keh ke "agar ham pehle vali baton ko ley kar bathen ge ton ane vale kal ka kya hoga",

eh gal yad rahe ke azadi vele total 121 fansiyan lagiyan san te jinhan vich 93 sikh san

3) Te hun aj kal de jamne ch, sikh hi apni kaum nu lut rahe han, jo eh kam karde han main ohna nu sikh nahin kahan ga
apna swarth kadan vaste koi sadhu ban janda hai koi sant, eh ik pase kmaun da vadhiya rasta labha hai ohna noo, te apne pinda de anpar lok ohna de piche lag jande han

india ch jithon tak meri knowledge hai ikala sikh dharam hi esa hai jo apne ap ch hi vandya pya hai
leaders ne apne faiyede khatar, apni kursi nu bachaun vaste

pata nahin kine ku sadh sant ithe paida ho gaye han, apna nam jyada jpaunde han te apne pairokaran bare ghat dasde han

eh hi karan hai ke sikhan di navin peeri nu apni kaum bare nahin pata, ke ki vech ke. ki lita hai

main hune hi apne pind gya si, main vekh ke hayran reh gya ke mere pind de lok, mere nal de munde, sir te pagan ne te cigrete pee rahe han,
pehlan eh hunda si ke je kite train di boogi vich ik sardar baitha hunda si tan us boogi vich koi beeri nahin si jlaunda, te hun oh ap hi pee rahe han

hor vi bara kuch chal riha hai,

so meri eh request hai arz hai ke koi esa hal labhna pave ga ke apni sikhism de reti-rivaj, us di maryada nu barkrar rakhye

main eh post kise bare kuch kehan jan kise te personaly attack nahin kita, bas apne parokaran de dase assolan nu kayam rakhan layi, thode vichar mang riha han, apne -2 vichra den di kuch himat karo

je kuch galat kiha hove tan maf karna, te galti sudharan bare apne vichar likna
 

MeHRaM

sadial
22 g main tan tuhaanu ehi salaah daunga tussi jerian problems discuss keetian ne ohna baare bilkul fikar na karo. je tussi kuchh karna hi hai tan apne aap nu kaim rakho buss. baaki kisse di fikkar karan de jaroorat ni. jehdi tussi leadran wali gall keeti aa osdi v tension na lao. kyonki ih kitte ni likhia ke sikhism is anyway or by any means is related to leaders , i mean sikhism is not what our leadership is. so je leader maade/galat aa es da eh matlab ni v there is anything wrong in sikhism. te baaki jedi tussi sikhism ch aa rahe nigaar bare gall keeti aa iss te v apna koi jor nahi. gurbani ch likhia 22 He (God) is doing what he want dekh je Rabb di marji see os ne sikh daram bna ta te hun os di marji naal ih sabb kuchh ho riha te jis din os nu laggia v hun sudaar di jroorat aa sab kuchh dheeek ho jo.. end te ehi khoonga 22 just be urself good thats it and leave rest on Him (God)
 

munda_wakhre_type_da

-- Kem da Gui --
nonfictious 2)azadi ton bad jvahar lal [B said:
nahru ji[/B] ne sikhan nal vahda khilafi kiti(punjabi soobe bare) eh keh ke
well veere galan ta kaem likhiyan.. later changi tara reply kardaa .. is wele bas ahi kehnaa k nehru naal JI laan di koi lodd ni c.. dose guys dnt deserve ji.....
 

GeNie_iN_a_boTtLe

~~brOwn sUg@~~
well i agree wid sydneysider......bass sanu lod hai ki asi apne aap nu thik rakhiye....asi thik haan te sab thik hai.....j har ik banda apne aap nu thik rakhan baare soch lave taan hauli hauli sab thik ho jaega.......eh taan sach hai ki aaj kal sikh munde v nashe pateyaan de naal naal cigarettan peende ne.......par eho jehaan da kuch kita v nayi ja sakda.......eh aape apne karmaan da phall bhugtange...sanu lod hai ki asi aap apne aap nu eho jahiyaan cheejan to dur rakhiye te apni aun waali generation nu sikhi baare puri knowledge daiye.......taan jo oh eho jahiyaan buriyaan adataan ton dur rehan.....
 

dhana_jatt

~*~ NiMaNa ~*~
bai kaim likhiya hai.... nale main guri nal sehmat ha ki ah nehru wargeya nu JI lan di koi lor ni..... hamesha sikha nal dhaka honda reha.... eniya qurbaniya ditiya sikha ne fer v koi mul ni peya.... BHAGAT SINGH, UDHAM SINGH , KARTAR SINGH wargeya nu ajj koi hi janda hai.... te ah gandhi warge jere 2 kapade kat pake aaj desh te raaj karde ne.... nale bai aaj kal ta sardara diya kuriya sardara nu vekh ke muh banaundia ne... sareya nahi hun eda diya kayi bohat changiya kudiya v ne jeriya izzat kardiya ne.... but bohat kat ne... te kayi munde sardara de kudia piche aapne waal kata rahe ne... lahnat hai ohna te...baki bai bohat kuch hai likhan nu par hun ethi khatam karna theek rahu... baki fer post karaga
 

neil

W@TNO DOOR
jadon jadon sikh dharam te sankat piya, sikh dharam diyan jaran hor majboot hoiyan, tusien dekhiyo kinni cheti ek transofmation aunee aa
so apne aap wall jhaak ke dekho vee tusien kee kar rahe ho is lasaani dharam layee, tuhada ke eyogdan hai ehde wich. te bas ek gall te dhiyan diyo................


"Nanak naam chardee kala, Tere bhane sarbatt da bhala"
 

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layo ji ji kat dinde han
man te mera vi likhan nu nahin si karda, fer main sochya kayi ithe gandhi vadi baithe hunde ne, so likh diye



te bahot acha laga ke mere vang doosre vi sochde han
 

Zailldaar

Mimber
mein kise nu qoute nahi karna chanda...

har cheez rabb di marzi naal ho rahi hai eh keh ke assi apna muh nahi fer sakde sachi toh...appa examz layi pardhe han..oh kyun nahi rabb te chadd dinde...roti muh ch paan di kirpalta kyun karde hoo..je rabb he sab kuch karda...Koi cheez ta aap chedd layie fer he rabb saath devega...

leaders ne ...jehra kuch ho reha saddi marzi naal ho reha ...je punjab di eh halat hai..us da jimewar koi leader nahi but, mein tusi..assi sare hann.

we all need to unite and do some effort...eh pind de munde yah shaher de munde aapa nu jande he ne..koi vakhre nahi

appa loka di problem he eh hai ki assi kuch karna nahi chahnde...

hun iss post wich he dekh lo some are saying why nehru was addressed with JI...there are bigger problems than discussing Ji here..

in my opinion we need to be "UNITED"

ethe baith ke assi bahut arram naal keh dinde ha ki assi kar v ki sakde haann and karmaan da phall bhogan ge...pata ohna nu lagda jado koi tuhanu cig offer karda n he says mein bahut sardar cig peende dekhe ne...
 

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bayi theek kiha hai toon

main topic hi is karke shuru kita hai ke is bimari da koi ilaz labh sakiye
main ik var te dol gya si ithon gal sun ke ke sabh kuch rab te chad devo, eh sabh kuch us di marji nal ho riha hai
par hun teri reply par ke kuch honsla milya hai

yar apne guru ji ne kiha hai kise di rakya vaste talwar chukni koi mari gal nahin

par manu nahin pata eh lok kadon samajan ge
 

MaRjAnA

JaTT_On_JaunT
Well mitra tera topic ta bahut good e!
Mai eho jeha msg te HYper ho jana,,,te well Just wait mere walo anda eis da detaild stuuf..Keep it up 22!
 

GeNie_iN_a_boTtLe

~~brOwn sUg@~~
kehna baut asaan hunda te karna baut aukha...apne apne ghare baithe computer te baith k baut kuch keha ja sakda....waddiyaan waddiyaan galaan kitiya ja sakdiyaan........well dekhna eh hai kaun kuch karda......kede ch edda jigra hai.....te sab to waddi gall ki karda........
 

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ji eh gall vi thik teri

par eh topic gallan maran vaste nahin kuch karan vaste shuru kita hai
tan ke saryan de decission ley ke kuch karan di sochi jave
 

MeHRaM

sadial
Jatt_Scotch_da_Shokeen said:
mein kise nu qoute nahi karna chanda...

har cheez rabb di marzi naal ho rahi hai eh keh ke assi apna muh nahi fer sakde sachi toh...appa examz layi pardhe han..oh kyun nahi rabb te chadd dinde...roti muh ch paan di kirpalta kyun karde hoo..je rabb he sab kuch karda...Koi cheez ta aap chedd layie fer he rabb saath devega...

leaders ne ...jehra kuch ho reha saddi marzi naal ho reha ...je punjab di eh halat hai..us da jimewar koi leader nahi but, mein tusi..assi sare hann.

we all need to unite and do some effort...eh pind de munde yah shaher de munde aapa nu jande he ne..koi vakhre nahi

appa loka di problem he eh hai ki assi kuch karna nahi chahnde...

hun iss post wich he dekh lo some are saying why nehru was addressed with JI...there are bigger problems than discussing Ji here..

in my opinion we need to be "UNITED"

ethe baith ke assi bahut arram naal keh dinde ha ki assi kar v ki sakde haann and karmaan da phall bhogan ge...pata ohna nu lagda jado koi tuhanu cig offer karda n he says mein bahut sardar cig peende dekhe ne...
nahi nahi mitaar tu bahut hi galat samaj gaya.... ji hajoor main ih jaroor likhia v jo ho riha oh rabb di marji naal ho riha and its very much true perhaps it is written on the every page of Guru GRANTH Sahib.... but main naal naal kujh karan nu v kiha si tussi shaid uss te gaur ni furmaea... main likhia si v je kuchh karan hi hai then start it from urself... mittar main fer likhda v apne aap ton shuru karo.....think abt urself.... samaaj nu sudarn ton pehla apne aap nu dekho...ki tussi sahi ho??????? te je apni society da harek banda is bare soche te sochke action lave te apne aap nu sudare tan poori society apne aap theek ho ju !!!!! main v 100% sahi ni ho sakda...more opnions r welcome..
 

GeNie_iN_a_boTtLe

~~brOwn sUg@~~
eggjactly......

kuch karna hi hai te apne aap nu apne dharam naal jodi rakho...te apni aun waali generation nu ess baare puri knowledge davo.........
 

GeNie_iN_a_boTtLe

~~brOwn sUg@~~
o jede thik ne o taan apne aap nu thik rakhan.....te jina nu thik rakh sakde aan ona bare socho..........jina da pata kuch nayi ho sakda te kisse kol time v nayi hona kuch karan da ona piche kyn matha maari jana.........chalo tusi dasso have u thought of somethin ki kita ja sakda hai????? nw dnt say esse layi tusi thread banaya ki koi idea mile...well j eh issue tuhade dimag vich aye taan kuch solution v aya hona dimag vich.........koi ik
 

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Nonfictious
sahi dasan pehlan tan kharkoo vala khyal aya si, ke jine eh dhongi babe ne sabh nu uda den da plan si, par eh kam ikala banda nahin kar sakda

so is nu pehlan main apne lokan de mann nu clear karan da plan hai

main te apne pid ton shuru kar dita hai, apne yar dost ja sade jo pind ch gwandhi anpar han ,ohna nu main dhadriyan vale do
CD vikha ke aya te, kuch hor sadha bare gallan das ke
dekho ki hunda hai age
dekhda han man koi apne nal torda hai ke mere nal koi turda hai



ik hor topic milya manu Radghasoamiyan bare, read it


Radha Soami Mat Darshan

When people of India were resting the sleep of illiteracy and diffidence, Guru Nanak saved these people from the fire of ritualistic beliefs and joined them in the remembrance of One God. Through his Ten Incarnations, Guru Nanak blessed the coward and the meek with kingdoms. With the Tenth incarnation, Guru Nanak carried out the most sensational marvel of gracing the disregarded and meager people by embracing and manifesting them as the “Panth Khalsa” and these people were also given the title of “Panj Pyare”. Guru Sahib announced:

ਖ਼ਾਲਸਾ ਮੇਰੋ ਰੂਪ ਹੈ ਖ਼ਾਸ ॥
Khalsa maero roop hai khas ||
Khalsa is my very own personal self.

ਖ਼ਾਲਸੇ ਮਹਿ ਹੌ ਕਰੌ ਨਿਵਾਸ ॥
Khalsae mehi ha kara nivas ||
Within the Khalsa, my soul dwells.

From the moment Guru Nanak Dev Ji started to alter the “Jagat Jalanda” (burning world) by preaching “Sach Ki Bela” (Word of Truth), from that time the Brahmanvadi nation of falsehood started foreseeing its eradication. The drama of these people of pretending to be the living image of God was getting revealed because of Guru Nanak’s teachings. Guru Nanak preached:

ਤਿਨ੍‍ ਸੰਗਿ ਸੰਗੁ ਨ ਕੀਚਈ ਨਾਨਕ ਜਿਨਾ ਆਪਣਾ ਸੁਆਉ ॥2॥
thinu sung sung n keechee naanuk jinaa aapunaa suaao
Do not associate with those, O Nanak, who look out only for their own interests. ||2||

Even though the Sikh religion has always been against the ritualistic belief of worshiping idols and graves, some so-called ‘Sikhs’ still indulge in the above mentioned religious misconduct.

Even today, some Sikhs are going astray from the teachings of the “Shabad Guru” and becoming victims of the false practice of idol and human worship. It is a big grief that the Sikhs who once lived on the edge of the sword and thanked the Almighty God even after having their bodies chopped into little pieces, had their whole families martyred, faced death bravely while being tied to the Catherine wheels, the same Sikh nation is now being misled by teachings of these ‘Gurus’.

Where some people are plotting themselves as the incarnation of the Gurus for their personal gains, many of our Sikh brothers and sisters are also becoming prey because of their own shortcomings. What is miserable is that many of our Sikh brothers are also adopting these teachings and beliefs which the Sikh Gurus openly rejected.

With the message of – “ਬਿਨ ਕਰਤਾਰ ਨ ਕਿਰਤਮ ਮਾਨੋ ॥” (Do not accept anyone else except God as the Creator of the Universe) the Gurus have done the great deed of joining the Sikhs to One Creator God. But still many immoral ‘ways of life’ are locking people in the mesh of the perplexity. The Radha Soami dogma is one such prominently known way of life. The Sikh Gurus have conferred the gift of Gur Mantar and Mool Mantar to their Sikhs and have clearly ruled the following command:

ਆਪਿ ਜਪਹੁ ਅਵਰਹ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਵਹੁ ॥
aap jupuhu avureh naam jupaavuhu
Chant the Naam yourself, and inspire others to chant it.

But yet many so-called ‘Sikhs’ can be seen begging for the ‘Gupt-Mantar’ at the door of Human ‘Gurus’. The Radha Soami faith was started in the city of Agra by a man named Shiv Dayal, who was the husband of a woman named Radha. During the year 1891, Jaimal Singh, a member of a Sikh regiment came in contact of Shiv Dayal and started the shrine of the Radha Soami faith at Beas. At present there are many branches of this faith that are in opposition to each other. These branches of the Radha Soami faith include their centers at Allahabad, Agra, Beas, Saidpur (Dist. Amritsar Sahib). Missionary work of this belief was first started at Saidpur by a person named Baba Teja Singh. Another person named ‘Baba Rasila Ram’ is the present leader of this cult.


Soami Shiv Diyal, founder of the Radha Soami faith. This person is falsely given the last name 'Singh' many times to associate him with the Sikh religion.Teja Singh, founder of the Radha Soami 'dera' at Saidpur. Former Punjab CM Parkash Badal visits this dera numerious times in a year, but especially before the elections.Rasila Ram, a non-Sikh from Jammu who merely carries the Sikh idenity is the current leader of the 'dera' at Saidpur.

In their attempt to copy the Sikh history, these people have published the biography of Baba Teja Singh under the title of ‘Janam Sakhi’. While many doctrines enlisted in this book are against the principals of Gurmat, the author has also published many statements in favor of the Radha Soami faith which are comparable to a Punjabi idiom that translates in English: “To throw an axe at your own foot”. This faith promotes the Jain belief of adhering to total peace; but the Sikh Gurus rejected such tenets because they were not in line with their proposed life full of morale and esteem. About the Jain belief, Guru Nanak Dev Ji has stated that the Jain followers take precautions under the false notion of not wanting to kill any living beings such as drinking water without purification in order to not kill the bacteria. About their practices Guru Sahib has stated:

ਸਿਰੁ ਖੋਹਾਇ ਪੀਅਹਿ ਮਲਵਾਣੀ ਜੂਠਾ ਮੰਗਿ ਮੰਗਿ ਖਾਹੀ ॥
sir khohaae peeahi muluvaanee joothaa mung mung khaahee
They pluck the hair out of their heads, and drink in filthy water; they beg endlessly and eat the garbage which others have thrown away.

ਫੋਲਿ ਫਦੀਹਤਿ ਮੁਹਿ ਲੈਨਿ ਭੜਾਸਾ ਪਾਣੀ ਦੇਖਿ ਸਗਾਹੀ ॥
fol fudheehath muhi lain bhurraasaa paanee dhaekh sugaahee
They spread manure, they suck in rotting smells, and they are afraid of clean water.

The Janam Sakhi published by the Radha Soami faith also favors another belief of the Jainism which Guru Sahib opposed. The Janis spread excreta in fear of killing a living being, and the Radha Soamis go through the deed of smelling manure to identify their Guru.

On page 62 of the Janam Sakhi published by ‘Baba Teja Singh Radha Soami Trust’, meanings of Gurbani are presented in a wrongful manner to prtray falseness. The page states that ‘Hazoor Satguru’ Teja Singh preached to Sangat that one can identify a person living in accordance with Gurbani if he eats and sleeps less, but and the biggest sign comes from that a person’s excreta, instead of having a fecal odor woul have a fragrance! For the stool and urine to be free of odor is the biggest sign of an enlightened person.

This teaching is further confirmed in Teja Singh’s ‘Janam Sakhi’ through this passage: “… after that Bhagat Chanan Singh and Gyanni Ji secretly smelled Baba Teja Singh Ji’s excreta (page 61-62). The bodily waste of Baba Teja Singh Ji had fragrance instead of odor and they accepted Baba Teja Singh as Puran Guru.”

This story plotted by the missionaries of the Radha Soami faith is worth nothing more than laughter. It is distressing to see Sikhs of Guru Nanak Dev Ji’s “Nirmal Panth” following the fake human gurus. Such Sikhs who merely carry the image of the Sikh identity and use Singhs and Kaurs as their last name and turn their backs on Guru Sahib by joining faiths as the Radha Soami, are not worthy of being labeled as Sikhs of the Gurus. They are forgetting that Guru Sahib taught:

ਜਾਗਿਤ ਜੋਤਿ ਜਪੈ ਨਿਸ ਬਾਸੁਰ ਏਕ ਬਿਨਾ ਮਨ ਨੈਕ ਨ ਆਨੈ ॥
jaagith joth japai nis baasur eaek binaa man naik n aanai ||
He the Khalsa meditates on the Ever-radiant Light, day and night, and rejects all else but the one Lord from the mind.

ਪੂਰਨ ਪ੍ਰੇਮ ਪ੍ਰਤੀਤ ਸਜੈ ਬ੍ਰਤ ਗੋਰ ਮੜ੍ਹੀ ਮਟ ਭੂਲ ਨ ਮਾਨੈ ॥
pooran praem pratheeth sajai brath gor marrhee matt bhool n maanai ||
He decorates himself with perfect love and faith, and believed not in fasts, tombs, crematoriums and hermit cells, even by mistake.
 
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