Radha -krishna- rukmani

Dhillon

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@Dhillon gal gender di hi ho rahi hai. rukmani was wife of krishan. radha was a gopi. je ram naal sita di murti lagdi hai taan krishan naal rukmani di kayo ni lagdi ?

I have no idea, i have presented my theory, te wakri soch ne bhi input ditte.

baki krishan was sacred to my Guru, te main kidha kaha ke lafanga si :p
 

userid114437

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Age is not an excuse,
Parladh,guru har krishan ji ne kite maade kam :-?
Sahibzaade and all

Soch uchi rakho jithe rakhni chaidi te maadi v rakho jithe maadi di lod pave
 

kit walker

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rukmani was also devotee of krishan. she was also eternally attached to krishan. it can be a lame excuse that he was 10 year old. He helped his cousin Arjun in war by motivating him. It is now respected as gita.
 

Dhillon

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lol, maade kamm :p

excerpts from sggs:-

ਕਰ ਧਰੇ ਚਕ੍ਰ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਤੇ ਆਏ ਗਜ ਹਸਤੀ ਕੇ ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ਉਧਾਰੀਅਲੇ ॥
You hold the steel chakra in Your hand; You came down from Heaven, and saved the life of the elephant.

ਦੁਹਸਾਸਨ ਕੀ ਸਭਾ ਦ੍ਰੋਪਤੀ ਅੰਬਰ ਲੇਤ ਉਬਾਰੀਅਲੇ ॥੧॥
In the court of Duhsaasan, You saved the honor of Dropati, when her clothes were being removed. ||1||

ਗੋਤਮ ਨਾਰਿ ਅਹਲਿਆ ਤਾਰੀ ਪਾਵਨ ਕੇਤਕ ਤਾਰੀਅਲੇ ॥
You saved Ahliyaa, the wife of Gautam; how many have You purified and carried across?

ਐਸਾ ਅਧਮੁ ਅਜਾਤਿ ਨਾਮਦੇਉ ਤਉ ਸਰਨਾਗਤਿ ਆਈਅਲੇ ॥੨॥੨॥
Such a lowly outcaste as Naam Dayv has come seeking Your Sanctuary. ||2||2||
(SGGS : 988)


ਨਿਰਾਹਾਰੀ ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ ਸਮਾਇਆ ॥
He is beyond need of any sustenance, free of hate and all-pervading.

ਧਾਰਿ ਖੇਲੁ ਚਤੁਰਭੁਜੁ ਕਹਾਇਆ ॥
He has staged His play; He is called the four-armed Lord.

ਸਾਵਲ ਸੁੰਦਰ ਰੂਪ ਬਣਾਵਹਿ ਬੇਣੁ ਸੁਨਤ ਸਭ ਮੋਹੈਗਾ ॥੯॥
He assumed the beautiful form of the blue-skinned Krishna; hearing His flute, all are fascinated and enticed. ||9||

ਬਨਮਾਲਾ ਬਿਭੂਖਨ ਕਮਲ ਨੈਨ ॥
He is adorned with garlands of flowers, with lotus eyes.

ਸੁੰਦਰ ਕੁੰਡਲ ਮੁਕਟ ਬੈਨ ॥
His ear-rings, crown and flute are so beautiful.

ਸੰਖ ਚਕ੍ਰ ਗਦਾ ਹੈ ਧਾਰੀ ਮਹਾ ਸਾਰਥੀ ਸਤਸੰਗਾ ॥੧੦॥
He carries the conch, the chakra and the war club; He is the Great Charioteer, who stays with His Saints. ||10||

ਪੀਤ ਪੀਤੰਬਰ ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਣ ਧਣੀ ॥
The Lord of yellow robes, the Master of the three worlds.

ਜਗੰਨਾਥੁ ਗੋਪਾਲੁ ਮੁਖਿ ਭਣੀ ॥
The Lord of the Universe, the Lord of the world; with my mouth, I chant His Name.

ਸਾਰਿੰਗਧਰ ਭਗਵਾਨ ਬੀਠੁਲਾ ਮੈ ਗਣਤ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਸਰਬੰਗਾ ॥੧੧॥
The Archer who draws the bow, the Beloved Lord God; I cannot count all His limbs. ||11||
( SGGS : 1082)

The above shabad also sounds similar to description of Krishna . Actually , a RSS Sikh hater used same shabad against me to prove that Sikhism also worships Krishna .


ਸੰਖ ਚਕ੍ਰ ਮਾਲਾ ਤਿਲਕੁ ਬਿਰਾਜਿਤ ਦੇਖਿ ਪ੍ਰਤਾਪੁ ਜਮੁ ਡਰਿਓ ॥
He is adorned with the conch, the chakra, the mala and the ceremonial tilak mark on his forehead; gazing upon his radiant glory, the Messenger of Death is scared away.
(SGGS : 1105)
 

kit walker

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Jis Gopal/Govind da reference SGGSJ ch hai oh akal purakh Parmatma li hoya. dunyavi krishan bus as example quote hoya.
 

kit walker

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jagannath gopal is used for supreme lord" Parmatma" li use kitta hoya hai. SGGSJ vich in Akal Purakh Di vadaiye hai. Es shabad vich naam dev ji us parampita di sift kar rehe ne. onha ne do methodological personalities di example de ke apna point clear kita. Ke karan wala Ohi Iko hai.
 
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userid114437

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Naam dev ji di gal panjve guru saab ne changi tara clear kiti aa,
Har cheez akal purakh da roop aa,,even krishan raam what ever shiv and all
Even u,,tsingh,,and me asi v akal purakh da roop aa,
Naam dev ji ne kutte nu v akal da roop smjhea kio??? Coz ohna di awastha uthe pahunch gayi c jithe sab kuch ik hi disda
Te apne vich akal nu khojna,ohda roop apne cha labhna hi sikhi aa ,
Unni der na tu akal purkh aa na mein jinni der 5 dushmana nu dha ni lende,
Jisle dha lea uss vele 1 ho jana.
Jad we can reach on top with help of guru then asi raste cha krishan raam shiv tak kio bethe rakhiye,,
Guru nanak saab khende,
Nanak ohdi sharan vich ayea,,jehde toon upaar koi nai,
Je nanak ohdi sharan cha aa taan sanu ki lod pe gayi adh raste cha hor magar firne di

ਮਾਰੂ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥
मारू महला ५ ॥
Mārū mėhlā 5.
Maaroo, Fifth Mehl:

ਅਚੁਤ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਪਰਮੇਸੁਰ ਅੰਤਰਜਾਮੀ ॥
अचुत पारब्रहम परमेसुर अंतरजामी ॥
Acẖuṯ pārbarahm parmesur anṯarjāmī.
The Supreme Lord God is imperishable, the Transcendent Lord, the Inner-knower, the Searcher of hearts.

ਮਧੁਸੂਦਨ ਦਾਮੋਦਰ ਸੁਆਮੀ ॥
मधुसूदन दामोदर सुआमी ॥
Maḏẖusūḏan ḏāmoḏar su▫āmī.
He is the Slayer of demons, our Supreme Lord and Master.

ਰਿਖੀਕੇਸ ਗੋਵਰਧਨ ਧਾਰੀ ਮੁਰਲੀ ਮਨੋਹਰ ਹਰਿ ਰੰਗਾ ॥੧॥
रिखीकेस गोवरधन धारी मुरली मनोहर हरि रंगा ॥१॥
Rikẖīkes govarḏẖan ḏẖārī murlī manohar har rangā. ||1||
The Supreme Rishi, the Master of the sensory organs, the uplifter of mountains, the joyful Lord playing His enticing flute. ||1||

ਮੋਹਨ ਮਾਧਵ ਕ੍ਰਿਸ੍ਨ ਮੁਰਾਰੇ ॥
मोहन माधव क्रिस्न मुरारे ॥
Mohan māḏẖav krisan murāre.
The Enticer of Hearts, the Lord of wealth, Krishna, the Enemy of ego.

ਜਗਦੀਸੁਰ ਹਰਿ ਜੀਉ ਅਸੁਰ ਸੰਘਾਰੇ ॥
जगदीसुर हरि जीउ असुर संघारे ॥
Jagḏīsur har jī▫o asur sangẖāre.
The Lord of the Universe, the Dear Lord, the Destroyer of demons.

ਜਗਜੀਵਨ ਅਬਿਨਾਸੀ ਠਾਕੁਰ ਘਟ ਘਟ ਵਾਸੀ ਹੈ ਸੰਗਾ ॥੨॥
जगजीवन अबिनासी ठाकुर घट घट वासी है संगा ॥२॥
Jagjīvan abẖināsī ṯẖākur gẖat gẖat vāsī hai sangā. ||2||
The Life of the World, our eternal and ever-stable Lord and Master dwells within each and every heart, and is always with us. ||2||

ਧਰਣੀਧਰ ਈਸ ਨਰਸਿੰਘ ਨਾਰਾਇਣ ॥
धरणीधर ईस नरसिंघ नाराइण ॥
Ḏẖarṇīḏẖar īs narsingẖ nārā▫iṇ.
The Support of the Earth, the man-lion, the Supreme Lord God.

ਦਾੜਾ ਅਗ੍ਰੇ ਪ੍ਰਿਥਮਿ ਧਰਾਇਣ ॥
दाड़ा अग्रे प्रिथमि धराइण ॥
Ḏāṛā agre paritham ḏẖarā▫iṇ.
The Protector who tears apart demons with His teeth, the Upholder of the earth.

ਬਾਵਨ ਰੂਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਤੁਧੁ ਕਰਤੇ ਸਭ ਹੀ ਸੇਤੀ ਹੈ ਚੰਗਾ ॥੩॥
बावन रूपु कीआ तुधु करते सभ ही सेती है चंगा ॥३॥
Bāvan rūp kī▫ā ṯuḏẖ karṯe sabẖ hī seṯī hai cẖanga. ||3||
O Creator, You assumed the form of the pygmy to humble the demons; You are the Lord God of all. ||3||

ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮਚੰਦ ਜਿਸੁ ਰੂਪੁ ਨ ਰੇਖਿਆ ॥
स्री रामचंद जिसु रूपु न रेखिआ ॥
Sarī rāmcẖanḏ jis rūp na rekẖ▫i▫ā.
You are the Great Raam Chand, who has no form or feature.

ਬਨਵਾਲੀ ਚਕ੍ਰਪਾਣਿ ਦਰਸਿ ਅਨੂਪਿਆ ॥
बनवाली चक्रपाणि दरसि अनूपिआ ॥
Banvālī cẖakarpāṇ ḏaras anūpi▫ā.
Adorned with flowers, holding the chakra in Your hand, Your form is incomparably beautiful.

ਸਹਸ ਨੇਤ੍ਰ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਹੈ ਸਹਸਾ ਇਕੁ ਦਾਤਾ ਸਭ ਹੈ ਮੰਗਾ ॥੪॥
सहस नेत्र मूरति है सहसा इकु दाता सभ है मंगा ॥४॥
Sahas neṯar mūraṯ hai sahsā ik ḏāṯā sabẖ hai mangā. ||4||
You have thousands of eyes, and thousands of forms. You alone are the Giver, and all are beggars of You. ||4||

ਭਗਤਿ ਵਛਲੁ ਅਨਾਥਹ ਨਾਥੇ ॥
भगति वछलु अनाथह नाथे ॥
Bẖagaṯ vacẖẖal anāthah nāthe.
You are the Lover of Your devotees, the Master of the masterless.

ਗੋਪੀ ਨਾਥੁ ਸਗਲ ਹੈ ਸਾਥੇ ॥
गोपी नाथु सगल है साथे ॥
Gopī nāth sagal hai sāthe.
The Lord and Master of the milk-maids, You are the companion of all.

ਬਾਸੁਦੇਵ ਨਿਰੰਜਨ ਦਾਤੇ ਬਰਨਿ ਨ ਸਾਕਉ ਗੁਣ ਅੰਗਾ ॥੫॥
बासुदेव निरंजन दाते बरनि न साकउ गुण अंगा ॥५॥
Bāsuḏev niranjan ḏāṯe baran na sāka▫o guṇ angā. ||5||
O Lord, Immaculate Great Giver, I cannot describe even an iota of Your Glorious Virtues. ||5||

ਮੁਕੰਦ ਮਨੋਹਰ ਲਖਮੀ ਨਾਰਾਇਣ ॥
मुकंद मनोहर लखमी नाराइण ॥
Mukanḏ manohar lakẖmī nārā▫iṇ.
Liberator, Enticing Lord, Lord of Lakshmi, Supreme Lord God.

ਦ੍ਰੋਪਤੀ ਲਜਾ ਨਿਵਾਰਿ ਉਧਾਰਣ ॥
द्रोपती लजा निवारि उधारण ॥
Ḏaropaṯī lajā nivār uḏẖāraṇ.
Savior of Dropadi's honor.

ਕਮਲਾਕੰਤ ਕਰਹਿ ਕੰਤੂਹਲ ਅਨਦ ਬਿਨੋਦੀ ਨਿਹਸੰਗਾ ॥੬॥
कमलाकंत करहि कंतूहल अनद बिनोदी निहसंगा ॥६॥
Kamlākanṯ karahi kanṯūhal anaḏ binoḏī nihsangā. ||6||
Lord of Maya, miracle-worker, absorbed in delightful play, unattached. ||6||

ਅਮੋਘ ਦਰਸਨ ਆਜੂਨੀ ਸੰਭਉ ॥
अमोघ दरसन आजूनी स्मभउ ॥
Amogẖ ḏarsan ājūnī sambẖa▫o.
The Blessed Vision of His Darshan is fruitful and rewarding; He is not born, He is self-existent.

ਅਕਾਲ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਜਿਸੁ ਕਦੇ ਨਾਹੀ ਖਉ ॥
अकाल मूरति जिसु कदे नाही खउ ॥
Akāl mūraṯ jis kaḏe nāhī kẖa▫o.
His form is undying; it is never destroyed.

ਅਬਿਨਾਸੀ ਅਬਿਗਤ ਅਗੋਚਰ ਸਭੁ ਕਿਛੁ ਤੁਝ ਹੀ ਹੈ ਲਗਾ ॥੭॥
अबिनासी अबिगत अगोचर सभु किछु तुझ ही है लगा ॥७॥
Abẖināsī abigaṯ agocẖar sabẖ kicẖẖ ṯujẖ hī hai lagā. ||7||
O imperishable, eternal, unfathomable Lord, everything is attached to You. ||7||

ਸ੍ਰੀਰੰਗ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੇ ਵਾਸੀ ॥
स्रीरंग बैकुंठ के वासी ॥
Sarīrang baikunṯẖ ke vāsī.
The Lover of greatness, who dwells in heaven.

ਮਛੁ ਕਛੁ ਕੂਰਮੁ ਆਗਿਆ ਅਉਤਰਾਸੀ ॥
मछु कछु कूरमु आगिआ अउतरासी ॥
Macẖẖ kacẖẖ kūram āgi▫ā a▫uṯrāsī.
By the Pleasure of His Will, He took incarnation as the great fish and the tortoise.

ਕੇਸਵ ਚਲਤ ਕਰਹਿ ਨਿਰਾਲੇ ਕੀਤਾ ਲੋੜਹਿ ਸੋ ਹੋਇਗਾ ॥੮॥
केसव चलत करहि निराले कीता लोड़हि सो होइगा ॥८॥
Kesav cẖalaṯ karahi nirāle kīṯā loṛėh so ho▫igā. ||8||
The Lord of beauteous hair, the Worker of miraculous deeds, whatever He wishes, comes to pass. ||8||

ਨਿਰਾਹਾਰੀ ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ ਸਮਾਇਆ ॥
निराहारी निरवैरु समाइआ ॥
Nirāhārī nirvair samā▫i▫ā.
He is beyond need of any sustenance, free of hate and all-pervading.

ਧਾਰਿ ਖੇਲੁ ਚਤੁਰਭੁਜੁ ਕਹਾਇਆ ॥
धारि खेलु चतुरभुजु कहाइआ ॥
Ḏẖār kẖel cẖaṯurbẖuj kahā▫i▫ā.
He has staged His play; He is called the four-armed Lord.

ਸਾਵਲ ਸੁੰਦਰ ਰੂਪ ਬਣਾਵਹਿ ਬੇਣੁ ਸੁਨਤ ਸਭ ਮੋਹੈਗਾ ॥੯॥
सावल सुंदर रूप बणावहि बेणु सुनत सभ मोहैगा ॥९॥
Sāval sunḏar rūp baṇāvėh beṇ sunaṯ sabẖ mohaigā. ||9||
He assumed the beautiful form of the blue-skinned Krishna; hearing His flute, all are fascinated and enticed. ||9||

ਬਨਮਾਲਾ ਬਿਭੂਖਨ ਕਮਲ ਨੈਨ ॥
बनमाला बिभूखन कमल नैन ॥
Banmālā bibẖūkẖan kamal nain.
He is adorned with garlands of flowers, with lotus eyes.

ਸੁੰਦਰ ਕੁੰਡਲ ਮੁਕਟ ਬੈਨ ॥
सुंदर कुंडल मुकट बैन ॥
Sunḏar kundal mukat bain.
His ear-rings, crown and flute are so beautiful.

ਸੰਖ ਚਕ੍ਰ ਗਦਾ ਹੈ ਧਾਰੀ ਮਹਾ ਸਾਰਥੀ ਸਤਸੰਗਾ ॥੧੦॥
संख चक्र गदा है धारी महा सारथी सतसंगा ॥१०॥
Sankẖ cẖakar gaḏā hai ḏẖārī mahā sārthī saṯsangā. ||10||
He carries the conch, the chakra and the war club; He is the Great Charioteer, who stays with His Saints. ||10||

ਪੀਤ ਪੀਤੰਬਰ ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਣ ਧਣੀ ॥
पीत पीत्मबर त्रिभवण धणी ॥
Pīṯ pīṯambar ṯaribẖavaṇ ḏẖaṇī.
The Lord of yellow robes, the Master of the three worlds.

ਜਗੰਨਾਥੁ ਗੋਪਾਲੁ ਮੁਖਿ ਭਣੀ ॥
जगंनाथु गोपालु मुखि भणी ॥
Jagannāth gopāl mukẖ bẖaṇī.
The Lord of the Universe, the Lord of the world; with my mouth, I chant His Name.

ਸਾਰਿੰਗਧਰ ਭਗਵਾਨ ਬੀਠੁਲਾ ਮੈ ਗਣਤ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਸਰਬੰਗਾ ॥੧੧॥
सारिंगधर भगवान बीठुला मै गणत न आवै सरबंगा ॥११॥
Sāringḏẖar bẖagvān bīṯẖulā mai gaṇaṯ na āvai sarbangā. ||11||
The Archer who draws the bow, the Beloved Lord God; I cannot count all His limbs. ||11||

ਨਿਹਕੰਟਕੁ ਨਿਹਕੇਵਲੁ ਕਹੀਐ ॥
निहकंटकु निहकेवलु कहीऐ ॥
Nihkantak nihkeval kahī▫ai.
He is said to be free of anguish, and absolutely immaculate.

ਧਨੰਜੈ ਜਲਿ ਥਲਿ ਹੈ ਮਹੀਐ ॥
धनंजै जलि थलि है महीऐ ॥
Ḏẖananjai jal thal hai mahī▫ai.
The Lord of prosperity, pervading the water, the land and the sky.

ਮਿਰਤ ਲੋਕ ਪਇਆਲ ਸਮੀਪਤ ਅਸਥਿਰ ਥਾਨੁ ਜਿਸੁ ਹੈ ਅਭਗਾ ॥੧੨॥
मिरत लोक पइआल समीपत असथिर थानु जिसु है अभगा ॥१२॥
Miraṯ lok pa▫i▫āl samīpaṯ asthir thān jis hai abẖgā. ||12||
He is near this world and the nether regions of the underworld; His Place is permanent, ever-stable and imperishable. ||12||

ਪਤਿਤ ਪਾਵਨ ਦੁਖ ਭੈ ਭੰਜਨੁ ॥
पतित पावन दुख भै भंजनु ॥
Paṯiṯ pāvan ḏukẖ bẖai bẖanjan.
The Purifier of sinners, the Destroyer of pain and fear.

ਅਹੰਕਾਰ ਨਿਵਾਰਣੁ ਹੈ ਭਵ ਖੰਡਨੁ ॥
अहंकार निवारणु है भव खंडनु ॥
Ahaʼnkār nivāraṇ hai bẖav kẖandan.
The Eliminator of egotism, the Eradicator of coming and going.

ਭਗਤੀ ਤੋਖਿਤ ਦੀਨ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਲਾ ਗੁਣੇ ਨ ਕਿਤ ਹੀ ਹੈ ਭਿਗਾ ॥੧੩॥
भगती तोखित दीन क्रिपाला गुणे न कित ही है भिगा ॥१३॥
Bẖagṯī ṯokẖiṯ ḏīn kirpālā guṇe na kiṯ hī hai bẖigā. ||13||
He is pleased with devotional worship, and merciful to the meek; He cannot be appeased by any other qualities. ||13||

ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰੁ ਅਛਲ ਅਡੋਲੋ ॥
निरंकारु अछल अडोलो ॥
Nirankār acẖẖal adolo.
The Formless Lord is undeceivable and unchanging.

ਜੋਤਿ ਸਰੂਪੀ ਸਭੁ ਜਗੁ ਮਉਲੋ ॥
जोति सरूपी सभु जगु मउलो ॥
Joṯ sarūpī sabẖ jag ma▫ulo.
He is the Embodiment of Light; through Him, the whole world blossoms forth.

ਸੋ ਮਿਲੈ ਜਿਸੁ ਆਪਿ ਮਿਲਾਏ ਆਪਹੁ ਕੋਇ ਨ ਪਾਵੈਗਾ ॥੧੪॥
सो मिलै जिसु आपि मिलाए आपहु कोइ न पावैगा ॥१४॥
So milai jis āp milā▫e āphu ko▫e na pāvaigā. ||14||
He alone unites with Him, whom He unites with Himself. No one can attain the Lord by himself. ||14||

ਆਪੇ ਗੋਪੀ ਆਪੇ ਕਾਨਾ ॥
आपे गोपी आपे काना ॥
Āpe gopī āpe kānā.
He Himself is the milk-maid, and He Himself is Krishna.

ਆਪੇ ਗਊ ਚਰਾਵੈ ਬਾਨਾ ॥
आपे गऊ चरावै बाना ॥
Āpe ga▫ū cẖarāvai bānā.
He Himself grazes the cows in the forest.

ਆਪਿ ਉਪਾਵਹਿ ਆਪਿ ਖਪਾਵਹਿ ਤੁਧੁ ਲੇਪੁ ਨਹੀ ਇਕੁ ਤਿਲੁ ਰੰਗਾ ॥੧੫॥
आपि उपावहि आपि खपावहि तुधु लेपु नही इकु तिलु रंगा ॥१५॥
Āp upāvėh āp kẖapāvėh ṯuḏẖ lep nahī ik ṯil rangā. ||15||
You Yourself create, and You Yourself destroy. Not even a particle of filth attaches to You. ||15||

ਏਕ ਜੀਹ ਗੁਣ ਕਵਨ ਬਖਾਨੈ ॥
एक जीह गुण कवन बखानै ॥
Ėk jīh guṇ kavan bakẖānai.
Which of Your Glorious Virtues can I chant with my one tongue?

ਸਹਸ ਫਨੀ ਸੇਖ ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਜਾਨੈ ॥
सहस फनी सेख अंतु न जानै ॥
Sahas fanī sekẖ anṯ na jānai.
Even the thousand-headed serpent does not know Your limit.

ਨਵਤਨ ਨਾਮ ਜਪੈ ਦਿਨੁ ਰਾਤੀ ਇਕੁ ਗੁਣੁ ਨਾਹੀ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕਹਿ ਸੰਗਾ ॥੧੬॥
नवतन नाम जपै दिनु राती इकु गुणु नाही प्रभ कहि संगा ॥१६॥
Navṯan nām japai ḏin rāṯī ik guṇ nāhī parabẖ kahi sangā. ||16||
One may chant new names for You day and night, but even so, O God, no one can describe even one of Your Glorious Virtues. ||16||

ਓਟ ਗਹੀ ਜਗਤ ਪਿਤ ਸਰਣਾਇਆ ॥
ओट गही जगत पित सरणाइआ ॥
Ot gahī jagaṯ piṯ sarṇā▫i▫ā.
I have grasped the Support, and entered the Sanctuary of the Lord, the Father of the world.

ਭੈ ਭਇਆਨਕ ਜਮਦੂਤ ਦੁਤਰ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥
भै भइआनक जमदूत दुतर है माइआ ॥
Bẖai bẖa▫i▫ānak jamḏūṯ ḏuṯar hai mā▫i▫ā.
The Messenger of Death is terrifying and horrendous, and sea of Maya is impassable.

ਹੋਹੁ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਲ ਇਛਾ ਕਰਿ ਰਾਖਹੁ ਸਾਧ ਸੰਤਨ ਕੈ ਸੰਗਿ ਸੰਗਾ ॥੧੭॥
होहु क्रिपाल इछा करि राखहु साध संतन कै संगि संगा ॥१७॥
Hohu kirpāl icẖẖā kar rākẖo sāḏẖ sanṯan kai sang sangā. ||17||
Please be merciful, Lord, and save me, if it is Your Will; please lead me to join with the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy. ||17||

ਦ੍ਰਿਸਟਿਮਾਨ ਹੈ ਸਗਲ ਮਿਥੇਨਾ ॥
द्रिसटिमान है सगल मिथेना ॥
Ḏaristimān hai sagal mithenā.
All that is seen is an illusion.

ਇਕੁ ਮਾਗਉ ਦਾਨੁ ਗੋਬਿਦ ਸੰਤ ਰੇਨਾ ॥
इकु मागउ दानु गोबिद संत रेना ॥
Ik māga▫o ḏān gobiḏ sanṯ renā.
I beg for this one gift, for the dust of the feet of the Saints, O Lord of the Universe.

ਮਸਤਕਿ ਲਾਇ ਪਰਮ ਪਦੁ ਪਾਵਉ ਜਿਸੁ ਪ੍ਰਾਪਤਿ ਸੋ ਪਾਵੈਗਾ ॥੧੮॥
मसतकि लाइ परम पदु पावउ जिसु प्रापति सो पावैगा ॥१८॥
Masṯak lā▫e param paḏ pāva▫o jis parāpaṯ so pāvaigā. ||18||
Applying it to my forehead, I obtain the supreme status; he alone obtains it, unto whom You give it. ||18||

ਜਿਨ ਕਉ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਕਰੀ ਸੁਖਦਾਤੇ ॥
जिन कउ क्रिपा करी सुखदाते ॥
Jin ka▫o kirpā karī sukẖ▫ḏāṯe.
Those, unto whom the Lord, the Giver of peace, grants His Mercy,

ਤਿਨ ਸਾਧੂ ਚਰਣ ਲੈ ਰਿਦੈ ਪਰਾਤੇ ॥
तिन साधू चरण लै रिदै पराते ॥
Ŧin sāḏẖū cẖaraṇ lai riḏai parāṯe.
grasp the feet of the Holy, and weave them into their hearts.

ਸਗਲ ਨਾਮ ਨਿਧਾਨੁ ਤਿਨ ਪਾਇਆ ਅਨਹਦ ਸਬਦ ਮਨਿ ਵਾਜੰਗਾ ॥੧੯॥
सगल नाम निधानु तिन पाइआ अनहद सबद मनि वाजंगा ॥१९॥
Sagal nām niḏẖān ṯin pā▫i▫ā anhaḏ sabaḏ man vājangā. ||19||
They obtain all the wealth of the Naam, the Name of the Lord; the unstruck sound current of the Shabad vibrates and resounds within their minds. ||19||

ਕਿਰਤਮ ਨਾਮ ਕਥੇ ਤੇਰੇ ਜਿਹਬਾ ॥
किरतम नाम कथे तेरे जिहबा ॥
Kirṯam nām kathe ṯere jihbā.
With my tongue I chant the Names given to You.

ਸਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਤੇਰਾ ਪਰਾ ਪੂਰਬਲਾ ॥
सति नामु तेरा परा पूरबला ॥
Saṯ nām ṯerā parā pūrbalā.
'Sat Naam' is Your perfect, primal Name.

ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਭਗਤ ਪਏ ਸਰਣਾਈ ਦੇਹੁ ਦਰਸੁ ਮਨਿ ਰੰਗੁ ਲਗਾ ॥੨੦॥
कहु नानक भगत पए सरणाई देहु दरसु मनि रंगु लगा ॥२०॥
Kaho Nānak bẖagaṯ pa▫e sarṇā▫ī ḏeh ḏaras man rang lagā. ||20||
Says Nanak, Your devotees have entered Your Sanctuary. Please bestow the Blessed Vision of Your Darshan; their minds are filled with love for You. ||20||

ਤੇਰੀ ਗਤਿ ਮਿਤਿ ਤੂਹੈ ਜਾਣਹਿ ॥
तेरी गति मिति तूहै जाणहि ॥
Ŧerī gaṯ miṯ ṯūhai jāṇėh.
You alone know Your state and extent.

ਤੂ ਆਪੇ ਕਥਹਿ ਤੈ ਆਪਿ ਵਖਾਣਹਿ ॥
तू आपे कथहि तै आपि वखाणहि ॥
Ŧū āpe kathėh ṯai āp vakāṇėh.
You Yourself speak, and You Yourself describe it.

ਨਾਨਕ ਦਾਸੁ ਦਾਸਨ ਕੋ ਕਰੀਅਹੁ ਹਰਿ ਭਾਵੈ ਦਾਸਾ ਰਾਖੁ ਸੰਗਾ ॥੨੧॥੨॥੧੧॥
नानक दासु दासन को करीअहु हरि भावै दासा राखु संगा ॥२१॥२॥११॥
Nānak ḏās ḏāsan ko karī▫ahu har bẖāvai ḏāsā rākẖ sangā. ||21||2||11||
Please make Nanak the slave of Your slaves, O Lord; as it pleases Your Will, please keep him with Your slaves. ||21||2||11||
 

Dhillon

Dhillon Sa'aB™
Staff member
jagannath gopal is used for supreme lord" Parmatma" li use kitta hoya hai. SGGSJ vich in Akal Purakh Di vadaiye hai. Es shabad vich naam dev ji us parampita di sift kar rehe ne. onha ne do methodological personalities di example de ke apna point clear kita. Ke karan wala Ohi Iko hai.

Its a theory not a fact, if islamists and Christian missionaries could explain their ideologies and concept of God with 0 Hindu mythological references then why all Sikh scriptures so full of it ?
 

userid114437

Well-known member
Its a theory not a fact, if islamists and Christian missionaries could explain their ideologies and concept of God with 0 Hindu mythological references then why all Sikh scriptures so full of it ?
Kar lao gheo nu fry pan. Balle sikho tuhade
Guru sahib didnt use hindu mythology to prove god lol
Hindus de god jithe muk jande guru saab da concept utho shuru hunda.
And
Coz most of time guru saab explain the concept of god to hindu pandits
Nd jehde pakhand di tui bhan'ni hove ohda naam lena hi penda

Jado guru nanak saab ne janeu paun toon naah krti ohdan pandit nu kehda neend ayi honi. Bas ohde toon baad kadi koi pandit aa gaya kade koi pandit aa gaya guru saab nu thalle laun.

Nd at that time hindu pakhand vaad da jor bahut c.
 

Jaswinder Singh Baidwan

Akhran da mureed
Staff member
Ikk gall dhayan ch rakhya kro ... J sirf apne dharam nu changa te dujjya de dharam nu maada samjh k kujh padhoge yaa debate karoge tan kde kujh gyaan haasil nhi hona .....


Har bande de har karam piche koi kaaran hunda hai,, ohnu j labb sakde ho tan labbo naa ki apni budhi de hisaab naal teer chalayi jao te character dheela declare Kar dao ....

Es fact nu naa bhullo ki gurbani wi krishan te ram de kamma nu pujadi hai , es lyi cheap character da tan swaal hi nhi uthda kite ....
 

userid114437

Well-known member
Ikk gall dhayan ch rakhya kro ... J sirf apne dharam nu changa te dujjya de dharam nu maada samjh k kujh padhoge yaa debate karoge tan kde kujh gyaan haasil nhi hona .....


Har bande de har karam piche koi kaaran hunda hai,, ohnu j labb sakde ho tan labbo naa ki apni budhi de hisaab naal teer chalayi jao te character dheela declare Kar dao ....

Es fact nu naa bhullo ki gurbani wi krishan te ram de kamma nu pujadi hai , es lyi cheap character da tan swaal hi nhi uthda kite ....

I m not against any dharam and nor is guru shaib,
Just against pakhand if its my religion nt gona support it.

Jb har bande de karam piche koi karan hunda
U working in court je uthe koi rapist kahe ji rape krn piche mere karm c te meinu sazza na diti jave. Does this make any sense.

And jb ah concept mein v pehli baar sunea gurbani kisse de kam nu poojdi hai ,,
Hun ki kaha mein
Gurbani sirf ik nu poojdi hai,jehde toon uppar koi nai,
Gurbani doesnt confuse us ke kehnu poojna kehnu nai,
Ah gal yaad rakhi, gurbani kisse hor nu poojan nu nai khendi. Just ik nu
 

Dhillon

Dhillon Sa'aB™
Staff member
Baba ji layi AC laya janda fer ni pakhand dikhda Sikhs nu :p

Gurbani pata ni kehnu poojdi, Sikh ta Baba ji di peehdi di lattan guttno ni hat de.
 

DBF

Mad
i can see same replies were in previous thread where there was a sikh guy named manush was also there
lol ohi rattiyan hoiya gallan ether v ne :lol
 

userid114437

Well-known member
Je same questions aa taan ans v same hi hone

If question is 2+2=? den answer 4 hi hona. Hun 10 taan kehno rahe.

If someone stuck on same questions. Den hv to stuck on same answers. Simple is dat ;)
 

Dhillon

Dhillon Sa'aB™
Staff member
Lol, Guruya ne kalle tere ta Mahaj layi ta Sikhi nahi banayi [emoji14]

Je kise school de 100 vicho 98 student fail ho rahe ta badi fikar wali gall hai.

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userid114437

Well-known member
Lol, Guruya ne kalle tere ta Mahaj layi ta Sikhi nahi banayi [emoji14]

Je kise school de 100 vicho 98 student fail ho rahe ta badi fikar wali gall hai.

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Sikhi har ik di appo apni khed

Je 100 vicho 98 shaam nu peg la rahe taan ehda matlab eh v ni k guru theke te ja k bottl leya k dinda.
Nalaiki tuhadi te fikar guru kare.

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