Punjabi Suba

[Dhillon]

Punjab ne himachal, haryane ton alag hoke ki gain kitta ?

himachal is selling power, idhar punjabi bijli nu tars gaye,
Gurgaon is developing as a major industrial hub for haryana, ta punjab ch koi industry lake raahi ni..

 

[pps309]

Je haryana te Punjab ik hunde ta fer Gurgaon di Industry da Rajpura/Malerkotla/Phagwara/Batala aaleya nu ki fayda hona si?

Te hun v Hissar ya Sirsa aaleya nu Gurgaon di industry da ki fayda???
Gurgaon jaake hi job karni aa koi v kare....

At time jad Punjab-Haryana division hoi si, Punjab ch jaade industry si. Haryanae aale apni mehnat naal kamyaab hoye aa.

Punjab ch ta Akali te Congressi aapas ch larno nahi hatde, Punjab ne tarakki swah karni.

 

[userid 56304]

100 percent Punjab di Government da fault a......koi plan ni infrastructure banaun da.....Jad alag hoea c ohdo Punjab kol headstart c...........par saadi Government ney kuch ni kita......Electricity toh laikey education tak bura haal a sabh cheezan da.

saarey paise khaan ch ruzey hoey a. Eh tah kisana nu free bijli dey key tey babea,lokan nu daru peya key tey derean tey matha tek key votan poorian karan walean cho an ...ehna toh ki industry tey infrastructure bhaldey on.

 

[gurvy]

Punjab mera rahe vasda hath mehrbaan raave sada rabb da

 

[pps309]

^^^ Free bijli da v fayda sab to jaade kihnu aa??
Badal di apni 3000 acres land honi aa...ohnu ke 2 acre aale jatt nu

 

[gurvy]

Skeemi aa badal seyan ...... kar lave kalollan ...

onu ki kehna .... ohdi jaga te jera vi hunda one ehda hi karna si

 

[userid 56304]

ehi tah poori scheme a....kam ohney ohna k hi karna jihdey naal ohdi sarkar bani rahey.....har mudey tey politics khed da. Naaley ohda tah bijli paida ni hundi...eh agon free dai janda......jeh karni a madad tah kisana dey loan maaf karwawey jihdey karan vicharey mari jandey a.

Merey hisab naal tah Punjab da bura haal hi ehney kita.....SGPC v apney control thaley rakhi a tah ki oh na koi changa kam kar dehn tey baki har mudey tey politics khed da.

 

[Dhillon]

Je haryana te Punjab ik hunde ta fer Gurgaon di Industry da Rajpura/Malerkotla/Phagwara/Batala aaleya nu ki fayda hona si?

Te hun v Hissar ya Sirsa aaleya nu Gurgaon di industry da ki fayda???
Gurgaon jaake hi job karni aa koi v kare....

i estimate that haryana govt. is selling/leasing gurgaon property worth billions every year, plus there will be taxes, license fees etc.
they can't possible be investing all that back into gurgaon but for the development of the entire state,
so kuch faida ta hunda hona.

 

[Und3rgr0und J4tt1]

 

[pps309]

i estimate that haryana govt. is selling/leasing gurgaon property worth billions every year, plus there will be taxes, license fees etc.
they can't possible be investing all that back into gurgaon but for the development of the entire state,
so kuch faida ta hunda hona.

these things came to my mind too.
I agree they will be getting some taxes, not all of taxes because most of the tax (income tax, education cess etc) goes to central government, on top of it most of Industrial area in Gurgaon and NCR is SIT (special taxation) zone.
Regarding selling of propert, it is the farmers and land-owners who made most out of it. Govt. made money in taxes.
I don't think Haryana govt. is making much money to change the face of state. Visit western Haryana, they are years behind the cities like Gurgaon, Faridabad or even Panipat. It is proximity to Delhi and low taxes which are attracting industry over there.



I will give you few examples,
Do note the registration number of trucks in Punjab. Many of Punjab trucks are registered with HR numbers. The reason for that is low taxes and easy to make permits. In Punjab getting permit or licence is big headache, you have to be a relative of minister to get truck/bus permits.
Second example, Infosys was trying for 6 years to open up their development centre in Mohali, Punjab. They were looking for some discounts in land allotment, licensing etc etc, which were not given by then Punjab govt. After 6-7 years they got it approved, by that time they got pissed off. They never extended in Mohali, there are max 2000 employees in Mohali whereas all other centers have strength more than 10K, bangalore has 35K, Pune has over 15K.

It is the Jatt mentality and unhealthy policies of Punjab govt which makes Punjabies suffer, not the divison.

Punjab has more water, more agricultural land, less desert area as compared to Haryana.
Punjab has almost all types of Industries, Iron foundries in Mandi Gobindgarh, Hosiery, spare parts in Ludhiana, Biggest grain market of Asia in Khanna, Sports gear manufacturing in Jalandhar, Biggest transport nagar (after Delhi) in Ludhiana , Rail Coach factory in Kapurthala, even oil refinery in Bathinda is older than oil refinery in Panipat. But due to inefficiency of Punjab govt. it is not running.
The first agricultural university (PAU) was opened in Punjab, Haryana got Hissar Agricultural University very late.

If Punjab don't have that is IT/BPO indursty, that you can't take it from them because of Gurgaon proximity to Delhi. Even the areas outside NCR like Panipat, Sonipat, Rohtak, Karnal do not have IT/BPO culture. Second the education in Punjab is of lower quality and more expensive than education in Haryana. Atleast, engineering from Kurukshetra University is cheaper and better than the one from PTU.

During division, Punjab surely had a big headstart. Honestly, I think even now Punjab is good ,, only minus point is education. Good quality education is limited and very expensive.

 

[Konvicted_Jatt]

Sara hee kasoor jattan te specially Sikh community da aa Jo badal varge lutere nu votaan pa k jitta k CM dee kursi te bithaayee baithe ne,,
free electricity v ehdi apni skeem aa,,
sikhan mostly hattan ne hee ehnu jitaayia te ohne de hee dandey paye,, ohna dee hee Fasal mandiyaan ch ruldi aa,, ohi suicide karde paye aa,,
captain ehde ton 100 guna vadiya c bt ohnu a moto bhathal hee nhi kujh karn dindi,,

 

[userid 56304]

^^^ Jattan ney tah karni hundi a farming....oh kehndey a par key v jeh ehi kam karna ...tah ki lor a..paran di....zameena vadhu a......aish karo. Hun jeh meh ohna di tha hunda tah meh v ehi sochna c.

Kasoor jadah Government da. Government chahey tah Punjab da naksha badal sakdi a......Har ik Government tah koi long term tey short term plan hunda.....tey Punjab di Government da haiga "agley 5 saalan lai sarkar kiven kaim rakhni a". Development nu sedh tah sarkar ney dehni a. Jihda oh policies banaun gey loki ohda hi react karan gey.

Tey naaley do parties a Punjab ch...Punjab dey lok v fasey hoey a......jihnu marji vote pa lain...state ch sudhar tah hunda ni.

 

[Palang Tod]

Sara hee kasoor jattan te specially Sikh community da aa Jo badal varge lutere nu votaan pa k jitta k CM dee kursi te bithaayee baithe ne,,
free electricity v ehdi apni skeem aa,,
sikhan mostly hattan ne hee ehnu jitaayia te ohne de hee dandey paye,, ohna dee hee Fasal mandiyaan ch ruldi aa,, ohi suicide karde paye aa,,
captain ehde ton 100 guna vadiya c bt ohnu a moto bhathal hee nhi kujh karn dindi,,

ehi ta aapa loka ch bohut vada panga aa k aapa ik ho k kadi v nahi reh sakde .....kadi koi kisi nu cast de na te te kadi koi kisi nu aamiri garebe de naa te vandi janda aa.........aapa lok bus ehi kahi jande haan k ohnu falane nay jitaya aa......ohna ne vota paiya nay...........kadi v tari ik hath nal nahi vajdi........badal nu jitan ch 60% punjab de loka da hath aa.....eh sare sirf jatt ta nahi haan.....jitho ta capt da swal aa ohne kehda ghat kiti aa punjab de nal .... ohdi bhathal nal kyu nahi bandi kadi eh sochiya aa...kyu k capt hamesha chahunda aa k oh CM bane......te bhathal v chahundi aa k oh CM bane.....so j tuhanu SAD psand nahi ta Congress v koi paras nahi aa k aaunde sar he punjab nu sone da bnadu.....nale jina hath punjab nu babon da SAD da hai ohto 60% vad congress da hai.........eh sab poltc sirf aapna ullu sidha karna jande haan.......kisi nu loka to ya pnjab to kuj nahi lena..........

 

[Dhillon]

We have gone slightly off topic here !
main pucheya Punjabi Sube de sannu ki faida/nuksan

 

[Ak47_Riskykz]

Verre j punjab na hunda te assi punjabi nhi c hona...

Sabh ton wadhi gall punjab ne sanu wakhhri pehchaan ditti hai...

 

[Dhillon]

oh ki
main punjab/himachal/haryane de batware di gall kar reha.

 

[Palang Tod]

oh ki
main punjab/himachal/haryane de batware di gall kar reha.

22 jado batwara hoya c odo main nahi jamiya c.....but jitho ta main pata aa...batware da sab to vadh nuksaan punjab nu he hoya c....

 

[ozzy12345]

Punjabi sube da fyada vi hoyia hai te nuksan vi....

Fyada:

1. Punjabi language nu state darja milyia( jeda ki united punjab vich nahi si mil reha). Independence to baad, center di government ne pure punjab vich hindi lago kar diti si , jai eda hi rehnda tan kuj sala nu pure punjab vich hindi official language ho jani si jive ke haryana vich hai...

2. Believe me or not(very few Punjabis know this and only those who have stayed in other states) Punjabs education system is much better than in other states. I have been to Gujarat, Maharashtra and even Harayana, these people are quite below in education level than us. What they study in 10th is already taught here in 8th... This is true.... students from Punjab are quite ahead of their counterparts in other states..

3. Although punjab is giving out more than 75% of water to other states like haryana(25%) and rajasthan(50%) but still Punjab has water for its own use... there are people who are asking for remainng 25% of water also.. sometimes i pity on punjabs condition that how some people are destroying it on pretext of nationalism.... Think if Haryana would have been in Punjab, then they would have even taken this 25 % water from us...

4. Punjab hun UP to vavah duri te hai, te mai is nu fyada hi samjda han... LOL...

Nuksan:

1. Punjab doesn't get much industrial help from center as oppose to other states due to its less representation in Lok sabha. Still the old system of seat distribution based on population which is outdated. States with higher population(uneducated) like UP and Bihar still gets more seats in Lok Sabha.This should get changed and seat distribution should be done on equal representation of each state in Lok Sabha.

2.Rich Punjabis left punjab in large numbers(moved to delhi , haryana, even to states like maharstra and gujrat) which affected its culture and economy. They can be said to be opportunists or it can be said as some Punjabis in Punjab were not accepting them as their own brothers as punjabis(whatever mite be the reason).

3. Center delays many good development projects in Punjab due to political reasons...
Examples are a number of flyovers in Jalandhar which are not getting ready due to clearance from Indian Railways(under central government). Punjab government can't do anything in this. People can't invest in Punjab without centers clearance.. This Investment is sometimes diverted to other areas due to political reasons....

 

[Dhillon]

^^ Thanks for this useful post, you made some good points

 

[deep]

I will give you few examples,
Do note the registration number of trucks in Punjab. Many of Punjab trucks are registered with HR numbers. The reason for that is low taxes and easy to make permits. In Punjab getting permit or licence is big headache, you have to be a relative of minister to get truck/bus permits.

yes thats correct that haryana has low taxes and license fees may be bcoz their government has enough earnings to keep their taxes and licensing fees lower .
and the second thing og getting bus permits in punjab one can buy a permit even from sardoolgarh to pathankot (longest route in punjab) but in haryana a single person cannot own a permit for even a 10km route.
to get permit in haryana you have to make a co-operative society of 5 or 7 UMEMPLOYED persons . in that way they try to tackle unemplyment also and their permits doesn't go beyond 25-30 km range in initial stage of permit and they are give 5-10 km extension after every few years till they reach a certain max limit.

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