84 lakh joon???

[pps309]

^^^

"simrit ved puran
pukaran pothiya
naam bina sab kurr
gaali hochiya"

Gyan ta Veda ch v bohat hona, but Naam is the difference between Vedas and SGGS. Gyan is good, but only Gyan is not enough. Ehna k gyan hona chaeeda ke bhai kisdi rachna, kisne rachi, kisda naam da asra laina, kisda razza ch rehna.............eh sanu SGGS detail ch dasde ne.

SGGS ch Bhagat Naamdev Ji, Ravidas Ji, Kabir Ji, Dhruv Prahalad warge kinne hi examples ditte ne jinna ne bina Veda de gyan to ik nu dhiaa ke apna jeevan sufla kita hai.

Sirf upper quote kitti panktiya nahi......aneka ang SGGS de sirf ik Naam naal juran di gal karde ne.
My question is: What is that Naam which SGGS is asking us to meditate, follow and keep in our hearts forever?

 

[pps309]

Back to original TOPIC:

Ho Sakda 84 lakh joon di figure kisse statistical model ya kisse hor reference to lai hove. (does it really matter, what matters is that do you wanna get recycle again & again, and keep living life full of fake attachments and false pride or get mukt by realization which can happen only in human form).
Esde ch koi shakk nahi ki human body jeyonde hoye v, te maran to baad decompose hoke, bohat sari life forms create kardi aa....bohat sari life forms nu support kardi aa jo fer agge reproduction kardiya ne.

Dhyan naal sochiye ta assi har pal marde paye aa....jidda jidda assi saah laine aa ohda ohda assi marri jaane.....ohi oxygen jo sanu jeyonda rakhdi hai ohi saanu maran wal v laike jaandi aa.
On our way to death, we humans have a chance to realize and attain God. (bhai prapat manukh dehuriya, gobind milan ki eh teri bariya). But it can happen only before this manukh deh dies...........it happens when you are alive but attained wisdom to realize and see God. When you attained brahmgyan.
Deh ta kachi aa,,,,ohne ta khurr jana fer recycle hoi jaana.....par thodi aatma mukt honi chaidi, oh v thode jeyonde ji.
Kuch lok azad mulka ch reh ke v mukt (azad) nahi, te kuch lok jail di salakha magar reh ke v mukt ne........oss mukti di gal kiti aa, osdi sojhi human form ch hi ho sakdi bande nu.
tahi baba nanak kehnde aa...

"assa manda bandhni bhai, karam dharam bandhkari
Paap punn jag jaaeya bhai, vinse naam khumari"

again Naam, ki hai eh?

 

[userid114437]

^^^


Gyan ta Veda ch v bohat hona, but Naam is the difference between Vedas and SGGS. Gyan is good, but only Gyan is not enough. Ehna k gyan hona chaeeda ke bhai kisdi rachna, kisne rachi, kisda naam da asra laina, kisda razza ch rehna.............eh sanu SGGS detail ch dasde ne.

SGGS ch Bhagat Naamdev Ji, Ravidas Ji, Kabir Ji, Dhruv Prahalad warge kinne hi examples ditte ne jinna ne bina Veda de gyan to ik nu dhiaa ke apna jeevan sufla kita hai.

Sirf upper quote kitti panktiya nahi......aneka ang SGGS de sirf ik Naam naal juran di gal karde ne.
My question is: What is that Naam which SGGS is asking us to meditate, follow and keep in our hearts forever?

Paji naam hukam akalpurkh da jehnu folow krna. Nitnem krna naam japna. Kirtan sun na naam japna. Sehaj path krna naam japna. It can b anything. Razza cha reh k

 

[Mahaj]

Jehdi pangti mein post kiti ohde cha taan lagda ni k kuch hou ehna cha.
Te jehdia tusi dasde ohde according lagda hou ga. kam fas jeha gaya

mote taur te gyan hega ona ch ....bareeki nai hegi ...."veda mein NAAM utttam"...sggs e keh rahe..mein kolon te laa nahi reha......gal note karn vali aa k ved nu uttam nahi keha...ode ch hor bahut lalla bhabba....naa hi veda nu mannan da hukam aa kyunki oo naam vall ghatt te mayea val jayda kharrda.....par bhavein ghatt hi sahi ..kharrda hega.... jehra vich sach aa oo sach aa....bakki jhooth te hega ee aa...90% jhooth aa ...10% sach aa....10% sach nu sach kehan ch ki prob aa?

 

[tomarnidhi]

I hate to be repetitive cuz I m sure someone must have already written it here but itni punjabi nai padh sakti

The school of thought of Sanaatan dharm is that till such time you fulfill or kill all your desires (icha) tab tak u keep recycling & depending on your karmas you get the next life form .. basically a killer or rapist will come back as a dung beetle

In all your human forms, your desires control how u recycle , I am a gud human being but hv few unfulfilled desires, i will come back as a human being to do what I had to do.. Puranjanam does not necessitate my having to take all the life forms all over again one by one (I hope I am able to explain myself here)

 

[tomarnidhi]

mote taur te gyan hega ona ch ....bareeki nai hegi ...."veda mein NAAM utttam"...sggs e keh rahe..mein kolon te laa nahi reha......gal note karn vali aa k ved nu uttam nahi keha...ode ch hor bahut lalla bhabba....naa hi veda nu mannan da hukam aa kyunki oo naam vall ghatt te mayea val jayda kharrda.....par bhavein ghatt hi sahi ..kharrda hega.... jehra vich sach aa oo sach aa....bakki jhooth te hega ee aa...90% jhooth aa ...10% sach aa....10% sach nu sach kehan ch ki prob aa?

matlab????

 

[userid114437]

mote taur te gyan hega ona ch ....bareeki nai hegi ...."veda mein NAAM utttam"...sggs e keh rahe..mein kolon te laa nahi reha......gal note karn vali aa k ved nu uttam nahi keha...ode ch hor bahut lalla bhabba....naa hi veda nu mannan da hukam aa kyunki oo naam vall ghatt te mayea val jayda kharrda.....par bhavein ghatt hi sahi ..kharrda hega.... jehra vich sach aa oo sach aa....bakki jhooth te hega ee aa...90% jhooth aa ...10% sach aa....10% sach nu sach kehan ch ki prob aa?

Edan keh na. Ke mukt ni kara sakde

 

[Mahaj]

Jine mukt huna ohne ek pankti samj k v ho jana.....ved ton v ho jana.....jine nai huna ...one dasam parr k v nai huna

 

[Mahaj]

matlab????

lol..muje khud nahi pata lol

 

[userid114437]

Jine mukt huna ohne ek pankti samj k v ho jana.....ved ton v ho jana.....jine nai huna ...one dasam parr k v nai huna

Ved toon kidda hou bhai


"""ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬ ਸਿਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਸਭਿ ਸਾਸਤ ਇਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਪੜਿਆ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਨ ਹੋਈ ॥""

Nale guru sahib khende veda nu banon vala mukt nai oh sanu kidda mukt kara dau.


ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਬਿਸਨੁ ਮਹੇਸੁ ਵੀਚਾਰੀ ॥
I have considered Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva.


ਤ੍ਰੈ ਗੁਣ ਬਧਕ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਨਿਰਾਰੀ ॥
They are bound by the three qualities - the three gunas; they are far away from liberation.


ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਏਕੋ ਹੈ ਜਾਤਾ ਅਨਦਿਨੁ ਨਾਮੁ ਰਵੀਜੈ ਹੇ ॥੧੩॥
The Gurmukh knows the spiritual wisdom of the One Lord. Night and day, he chants the Naam, the Name of the Lord. ||13||


Guru ohho jehda aap mukt hove.

ਐਸੇ ਗੁਰ ਕਉ ਬਲਿ ਬਲਿ ਜਾਈਐ ਆਪਿ ਮੁਕਤੁ ਮੋਹਿ ਤਾਰੈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

 

[Mahaj]

^^ further discussion on this topic would need subsequent level of spiritual maturity ......and by not relating any granth to any particular religion
ਨਾਨਕ ਸੋਧੇ ਸਿੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਬੇਦ

 

[userid114437]

^^ simply means i need ur level to discuss further.

 

[userid114437]

lol..muje khud nahi pata lol

Sidha keh hindi naal matha nai marna aunda

 

[Mahaj]

Nai nai ....matlab relax ho k lol

 

[userid114437]

^^banff ja k

 

[bapu da laadla]

Ved toon kidda hou bhai


"""ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬ ਸਿਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਸਭਿ ਸਾਸਤ ਇਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਪੜਿਆ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਨ ਹੋਈ ॥""

Nale guru sahib khende veda nu banon vala mukt nai oh sanu kidda mukt kara dau.


ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਬਿਸਨੁ ਮਹੇਸੁ ਵੀਚਾਰੀ ॥
I have considered Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva.


ਤ੍ਰੈ ਗੁਣ ਬਧਕ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਨਿਰਾਰੀ ॥
They are bound by the three qualities - the three gunas; they are far away from liberation.


ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਏਕੋ ਹੈ ਜਾਤਾ ਅਨਦਿਨੁ ਨਾਮੁ ਰਵੀਜੈ ਹੇ ॥੧੩॥
The Gurmukh knows the spiritual wisdom of the One Lord. Night and day, he chants the Naam, the Name of the Lord. ||13||


Guru ohho jehda aap mukt hove.

ਐਸੇ ਗੁਰ ਕਉ ਬਲਿ ਬਲਿ ਜਾਈਐ ਆਪਿ ਮੁਕਤੁ ਮੋਹਿ ਤਾਰੈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

je ved nu parh k mukt ne hona ta bhaji SGGS nu parh k v mukt ne hona(jad tak samazde ne vichaarde nemannde nai) je ikala parhke mukt mil jandi ta har granthi,paathi brahamgyani hunda

 

[bapu da laadla]

ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬ ਸੰਸਾਰ ਹਭਾ ਹੂੰ ਬਾਹਰਾ ॥
He is beyond the world of the Vedas, the Koran and the Bible.

Ah kithe jau paji

Neyane nu confuse na karea karo!!!!!

ਆਸਾ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥
Aasaa, Fifth Mehl:
ਸਾਈ ਅਲਖੁ ਅਪਾਰੁ ਭੋਰੀ ਮਨਿ ਵਸੈ ॥
If the Invisible and Infinite Lord dwells within my mind, even for a moment,
ਦੂਖੁ ਦਰਦੁ ਰੋਗੁ ਮਾਇ ਮੈਡਾ ਹਭੁ ਨਸੈ ॥੧॥
then all my pains, troubles, and diseases vanish. ||1||
ਹਉ ਵੰਞਾ ਕੁਰਬਾਣੁ ਸਾਈ ਆਪਣੇ ॥
I am a sacrifice to my Lord Master.
ਹੋਵੈ ਅਨਦੁ ਘਣਾ ਮਨਿ ਤਨਿ ਜਾਪਣੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
Meditating on Him, a great joy wells up within my mind and body. ||1||Pause||
ਬਿੰਦਕ ਗਾਲ੍ਹ੍ਹਿ ਸੁਣੀ ਸਚੇ ਤਿਸੁ ਧਣੀ ॥
I have heard only a little bit of news about the True Lord Master.
ਸੂਖੀ ਹੂੰ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਇ ਮਾਇ ਨ ਕੀਮ ਗਣੀ ॥੨॥
I have obtained the peace of all peace, O my mother; I cannot estimate its worth. ||2||
ਨੈਣ ਪਸੰਦੋ ਸੋਇ ਪੇਖਿ ਮੁਸਤਾਕ ਭਈ ॥
He is so beautiful to my eyes; beholding Him, I have been bewitched.
ਮੈ ਨਿਰਗੁਣਿ ਮੇਰੀ ਮਾਇ ਆਪਿ ਲੜਿ ਲਾਇ ਲਈ ॥੩॥
I am worthless, O my mother; He Himself has attached me to the hem of His robe. ||3||
ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬ ਸੰਸਾਰ ਹਭਾ ਹੂੰ ਬਾਹਰਾ ॥
He is beyond the world of the Vedas, the Koran and the Bible.
ਨਾਨਕ ਕਾ ਪਾਤਿਸਾਹੁ ਦਿਸੈ ਜਾਹਰਾ ॥੪॥੩॥੧੦੫॥
The Supreme King of Nanak is immanent and manifest. ||4||3||105||

es pankti de arth eh nikalde ne k rabb veda,koran and bible ch nai hai... oh andar vaseya aa. same rabb SGGS vich v nai ae.. andaro labhna paina

 

[userid114437]

je ved nu parh k mukt ne hona ta bhaji SGGS nu parh k v mukt ne hona(jad tak samazde ne vichaarde nemannde nai) je ikala parhke mukt mil jandi ta har granthi,paathi brahamgyani hunda

Je padha ge ni smjh swah lagni. Duro duro kahi jao k ki padhna kehda smjh lagni hun je kuch na padhie fer vichar kahdi karni. Ess krke padhna v jaroori aa.

 

[ALONE]

osmmm.

 

[userid114437]

^^ ,, tenu mahaj osm lagn lag pea. Gal chaliye rishtey di