Turban disappearing in Punjab :(

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Ramta

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jattpunjabi,

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="94%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#ffecec><TD class=ggs>eykw eykMkwr ilK idKwilAw]

</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffecec><TD class=subhead>eaekaa eaekankaar likh dhikhaaliaa||

</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffecec><TD class=shlok>By writing 1 (One) in the beginning, it has been shown that Ekankar, God, who subsumes all forms in Him is only one (and not two or three).

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=rmenuheader>Line 1


</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffec><TD class=ggs>aUVw EAMkwr pws bhwilAw]

</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffec><TD class=subhead>oorraa ouankaar paas behaaliaa||

</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffec><TD class=shlok>Ura, the first Gurmukhi letter, in the form of Oankar shows the world controlling power of that one Lord.

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=rmenuheader>Line 2


</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffecec><TD class=ggs>siqnwm krqwr inrBau BwilAw]

</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffecec><TD class=subhead>sathinaam karathaar nirabho bhaaliaa||

</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffecec><TD class=shlok>That Lord has been understood as the True-Name, Creator and the Fearless One.

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=rmenuheader>Line 3


</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffec><TD class=ggs>inrvYrhu jYkwru AjUin AkwilAw]

</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffec><TD class=subhead>niravairahu jaikaar ajoon akaaliaa||

</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffec><TD class=shlok>He is devoid of rancour, beyond time and free from the cycle of transmigration.

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=rmenuheader>Line 4


</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffecec><TD class=ggs>s`c nIswx Apwr joq aujwilAw]

</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffecec><TD class=subhead>saach neesaan apaar joth oujaaliaa||

</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffecec><TD class=shlok>Hail the Lord! His mark is truth and He shines in bright effulgent flame.

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=rmenuheader>Line 5


</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffec><TD class=ggs>pMc A`Kr aupkwr nwm smHwilAw]

</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffec><TD class=subhead>panch aakhar oupakaar naam samhaaliaa||

</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffec><TD class=shlok>Five letters (1 Oankar) are altruists; they have in them the power of the person of the Lord.

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=rmenuheader>Line 6

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Line 6 mentions Onkar as a combine of five letters.
The five letters are :
1- Aa
2- U ( 1 nd 2 combine produces O )
3- Mm( 'm' stands for a conjunct or half nasal consonant...something like mmmnnn )
4- Ka
5- Ra

Got it ? AaoUMmmKara.

In Gurmukhi its written as 'Ura' which is sued as both AA and U.
The tail end of Ura continues to form the nasal matra.

In Devanagri too its a combination of AA + Uu + ng(nasal matra)
Ditto in Tamil.

You may read it in Punjabi fonts if you wish to...

HERE

Thanks

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Ramta

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A major source of bani of Guru Nanak was the Harsahai pothi, which was with the family of the descendants of Prithi Chand, elder brother of Guru Arjan Dev. This manuscript was to remain with the family till it was stolen in 1970-71.

The following article on tribuneindia.com has a picture of a few verses from the pothi, whether it is the beginning of the mantra or not I do not know, people who can read Gurmukhi here can take a look. The photographs of Harsahai Pothi (lost about 1970) when some robbers stole it starts with a plain Onkar not Ek Onkar or atleast that is what I see.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2004/20040905/spectrum/main1.htm

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jattpunjabi

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BulleShah said:
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jattpunjabi,

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="94%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#ffecec><TD class=ggs>eykw eykMkwr ilK idKwilAw]


</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffecec><TD class=subhead>eaekaa eaekankaar likh dhikhaaliaa||


</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffecec><TD class=shlok>By writing 1 (One) in the beginning, it has been shown that Ekankar, God, who subsumes all forms in Him is only one (and not two or three).


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=rmenuheader>Line 1



</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffec><TD class=ggs>aUVw EAMkwr pws bhwilAw]


</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffec><TD class=subhead>oorraa ouankaar paas behaaliaa||


</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffec><TD class=shlok>Ura, the first Gurmukhi letter, in the form of Oankar shows the world controlling power of that one Lord.


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=rmenuheader>Line 2



</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffecec><TD class=ggs>siqnwm krqwr inrBau BwilAw]


</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffecec><TD class=subhead>sathinaam karathaar nirabho bhaaliaa||


</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffecec><TD class=shlok>That Lord has been understood as the True-Name, Creator and the Fearless One.


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=rmenuheader>Line 3



</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffec><TD class=ggs>inrvYrhu jYkwru AjUin AkwilAw]


</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffec><TD class=subhead>niravairahu jaikaar ajoon akaaliaa||


</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffec><TD class=shlok>He is devoid of rancour, beyond time and free from the cycle of transmigration.


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=rmenuheader>Line 4



</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffecec><TD class=ggs>s`c nIswx Apwr joq aujwilAw]


</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffecec><TD class=subhead>saach neesaan apaar joth oujaaliaa||


</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffecec><TD class=shlok>Hail the Lord! His mark is truth and He shines in bright effulgent flame.


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=rmenuheader>Line 5



</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffec><TD class=ggs>pMc A`Kr aupkwr nwm smHwilAw]


</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffec><TD class=subhead>panch aakhar oupakaar naam samhaaliaa||


</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffec><TD class=shlok>Five letters (1 Oankar) are altruists; they have in them the power of the person of the Lord.


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=rmenuheader>Line 6


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Line 6 mentions Onkar as a combine of five letters.
The five letters are :
1- Aa
2- U ( 1 nd 2 combine produces O )
3- Mm( 'm' stands for a conjunct or half nasal consonant...something like mmmnnn )
4- Ka
5- Ra

Got it ? AaoUMmmKara.

In Gurmukhi its written as 'Ura' which is sued as both AA and U.
The tail end of Ura continues to form the nasal matra.

In Devanagri too its a combination of AA + Uu + ng(nasal matra)
Ditto in Tamil.

You may read it in Punjabi fonts if you wish to...

HERE

Thanks

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according .....
panch aakhar oupakaar naam samhaaliaa||

Five letters (1 Oankar) are altruists; they have in them the power of the person of the Lor
five letters aa nai aa????
1, ਇਕ/ਏਕ
ਓ
ਅੰ
ਕਾ
ਰ

oode....aade ate jede fonts di gal tu gal karda oh language conversion aa.........main tainu shudh panjabi ch dass ditte oh panj akher......jedi tu gal krda aa oh hindu mythology naal theek aa.....main ate tiwana 22 pela hi kise thread ch tainu ik oankar da meaning dass chukke aa .......phir dubara harek thread ch ohi gall karan da ki matbal?????
 
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Ramta

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jattpunjabi,

Five letters (1 Oankar) are altruists; they have in them the power of the person of the Lor
five letters aa nai aa????
1, ਇਕ/ਏਕ
ਓ
ਅੰ
ਕਾ
ਰ
Click to expand...


This combination of five letters is the same in Devanagari and even Tamil.
So there is nothing different about Punjabi Onkar. It's the good ol' Omkar...

The symbol is actually a term consisting of three words(don't confuse with five letters)
The three words are "Ik", "Om" and "Kar(a)"("Kara" is a word in itself we all know that.)

And all these three words are sankrit words and no one really invented them.

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jattpunjabi

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chal ok mann lai mooldhan 100.......ikonkar nahin ikomkar hai.......phir ki aa......is naal koi farak nai painda.......is bare aini behas di ki lod aa???? anyway jinne v sikh aa is duniya utte ate jinne v hoe aa oh sare ikonkar hi akhde aaye aa.....jo v aa jo tu akhna chounda oh nai aa.....
 
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Ramta

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Jattpunjabi,

ikonkar bolo ja ikomkar, ki pharak paindaa ??
Hai ta ikkoei...

Vaise bhi bolan jao taan ikonkar hi nikalda. Mamma pura thodi kehna.
Bas mmmmmm..... ikonkar hi ban jaanda.

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jattpunjabi

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BulleShah said:
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jattpunjabi,




This combination of five letters is the same in Devanagari and even Tamil.
So there is nothing different about Punjabi Onkar. It's the good ol' Omkar...

The symbol is actually a term consisting of three words(don't confuse with five letters)
The three words are "Ik", "Om" and "Kar(a)"("Kara" is a word in itself we all know that.)

And all these three words are sankrit words and no one really invented them.

Thanks

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mainu nih gal dass ke ki ik, ooda,aada,kakka ate raara mil ke panj akher bane ke nai??????????devangiri da concept kithon aa gaya........duniya ch more than million scripts aa ki hun tu unha de mutabik meani g kadhenga......kise v ik lang da kise lang naal mil ke us da meaning kadhna kithon di sianap aa........is nu devangiri ya angreji ch dekhan di lod ki aa.......saadi boli gurmukhi aa.......ate gurmakhi ch ikonkar wich numaral 1, ooda jisda moohn khula, aade utte unkad,kakke nu kanna ate raara aounda hai.......kade kise sikh guru ne devangiri use kiti aa??????? guruan ne gurmakhi use kiti aa ate gurmakhi de 5 word mil ke ikonkar banda.........pata nai tu ki sidh karna chounda aa........chal ih dass tere ih akhan da matlab ki aa yani is pishe tera idea ki aa????
 
Da Tiwana

Da Tiwana

Inspector Sa'ab ;)
bulle shah mainu ik gall dass bayee, why u tryin so desperately to prove that sikhs are a part of hindus?
n if you say ke Gurbani ch bohat kuchh hindu vedas to leya hoyeya taan fer, Gurbani ch bohat kuchh urdu ya farsi de poets to vi leya hoyeya hai.
te ikk gall hor aa bayee siyaah, ke sikh pehlaan hindu te muslim hi hunde si. par saade Guru ji nu laggeya ke jehde raah te hindu ya muslim tur rahe ne, oss raah vich kai kamiyaan ne. so they showed us a better path, n that path is Sikhism.
so buddy, if you can, please explain to me what u tryin to prove by saying that sikhs are part of hindus?.......................
 
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