Sikhs and Topi

Dhillon

Dhillon Sa'aB™
Staff member
Topi (or seli topi) was a integral part of Sikhism till Chevi patshahi Guru HarGobind Ji.
  • Baba Kaladhari had inherited a cap ("seli topi") originally worn by Guru Nanak Dev. This cap has been preserved at Una in present-day Himachal Pradesh.
  • Jadh bhi nave guru nu gurgadhi saupi jandi si te uhna nu Ikk Nariyal,Panj Paise te Ikk Seli topi Bhent kiti jandi si.2-5 Guru nu eh Bhenta Baba Budha ji ne dittiya.
Guru Hargobind Ji ne Baba Budha ji to Seli Topi di jagah Dastar layi keha,fer eehi reet chall payi.

Present your views.
 

aman_sunny

New member
I dont know wat to say bhaji cause smtimes I wear it,
I am confused in wat way it hurts our feelings

explain....................
 

Angel_Eyes

Done Deal !
teelon saab vaise ta i have restricted myself from posting these days, and especially on issues like this, coz we know how controversial it gets.....but since i am here, i feel i need to drop by.........

Well first of all i believe (simply my thoughts, so no offense to anyone) jo asool, principles sikhi de banaye gaye san das gurus de through that defines sikhi, and those are the principles of our religion. What we do in our daily lives, be it following sikhism or making our own principles is our personal choice. For example, if one cuts their hair that the choice they make, but its not a principle of sikhism. Je asi nahi follow karde ta eh saadi apni personal choice hai, but it should not be said ki wats the logic behind this, its wrong and it shudnt be followed. 5 kakaar sikhi de asoola ch aunde han, je asi nahi mannde ta eh sadi apni choice hai, but that doesnt mean ki eh exist nahi karde......

Similarly, topi pauna sikhi de asoola de bahr hai, Haan asi paa lainde haan, i waer it, my brother wears it....again thats our personal choice we make living in todays world of fashion and rationality.......But, are we wrong according to sikhi - yes we are. Mainu gurbani di line nahi yaad aa rahi is time, but it goes something like "kutha hukka charas tamakoo, topi ganja thaare khakoo"........

Again no offense to anyone, i totally respect the choices people make according to their individual personalities, BuT it shud not be said ki jo saadi kaum, panth, de asool han o galat han. If i dont follow something i admit that i m wrong, not that the principle itself is wrong. So accroding to gurbani topi is not allowed if thats wat you just wanted to know, baaki agge sab nu request hai ki no controversies, repect the rules and principles of your religion evenif u dont follow them, coz thats the choice you make. Them were perfect human beings who brought sikhism into esixtance, and i have no doubts in for wat they have set the creteria for being a good sikh.

And here., i found the words from gurbani with the meanings as well...... (hun koi eh na kaheyo bhi hat te topi ch fark hai.....lol


"kut(h)aa hukaa charas thamaakoo || gaa(n)jaa ttopee thaarree khaakoo || ein kee our n kabehoo dhaekai || rehithava(n)th so si(n)gh visaekhai || "
Meat, opium, drugs and tobacco. Ganja, wearing hats, another's woman and alcohol. He who never even gazes at these evils. Recognise them as my disciplined Singh.

and simply speaking, rehatvaan sikh is one who follows the rehat. (i m totally not myself)...but the whole point of these lines is answering your request for any relativeness between sikhi and topi !

 
MY 2 CENTS....






main eh kehna chahna hai ki....sikh ho kei tuhanu topi paun di ki lorh hai.....tuhanu Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji ne dastar/pagg diti hai....tusi oho bano.....jehri rahi gal fashion vaste topi paunae dats just an xcuse to get out of it.....ek line hai....dats goes sumtin lyk.....hoe sikh topi dhare sat janam kohdi mare...



IF U WANT TO LEARN SOMETHING U SHOULD WATCH THE MOVIE KAMBDI KALAI
 

$IMPLE

Member
nice discussion jee. sade sikhan de 10th guru sri guru Gobind singh jee ne akhea hae sikh hoke sar topi dhare sat janam kohdee hoe mare. bhav eh ke jo sikh ho ke sar te topi paounda oh sat janam kohdee ho ke marda. meaning ke sade guruan mutabik topi nahe laene chaedee. sikhan noo pag hee shobha dinde hae. te sanu sikh he rahena chaheda hae te guruan ne jon rules banae han onha nu follow karna chaeda hae
nice to see religion discussuin here. looking forward to similar ones
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supercat

Member
agree with simple....religion bare eston jini marji te jad marji discussion kralo.. angel eyes ne bilkul thik akhia.eh apni choice hae, par sada dharam eh nahi kehnda te choice dharam ton bahar hoke kiti gayi islai oh sadi apni hae. dharam de kuch rules ne te sanu unha according chalna chahida tan hi asi sahi tarah nal dharam follow kar sakde, je dharam nu follow karna us de rules follow karo. logan de dilan vich dharam di value ghatdi jandi hae te dino din log dharan ton door ho rahe hun. hun according to our gurus, sanu topi nahi wear karni chahidi, te je karde han tan oh dharmo bahar di gal hae. par ek gal hae topi oh munde wear karde jinha de haircut hunde te jadon unha ne haircut hee kar le tan oh pehlan hee dharam vichon out ne meaninig ohna ne dharam tyag dita. jad sar te val hi ni tan sikh kahda. te us lai topi paoni ja na paoni ik barabar.oh tan pehlan hi dharam nu chhikke tang chukia. maenu ni pata eh thread karan wale da idea ki hae te oh pehlan kyon input mang reha. shied koi kafi serious gal kehni chonda.jo be hae mae tan ihi kahangi ke je rab ne sanu sikhan de ghar payda kita hae tan ih rab di marji hi hae ke asi sikh baniea. je rab sanu sikh banna na chonda ta kise hor de ghar pyada karda. is layi sanu rab di raza vich rehna chahida hae. jis than te us ne sanu rakhia hae meaning pyada kita hae sanu use rang vich hee rehna chaheda hae.maenu pata hae mere kaian nal vichar nahi milne. par maen ise tarah sochdi an.
 

supercat

Member
MY 2 CENTS....






main eh kehna chahna hai ki....sikh ho kei tuhanu topi paun di ki lorh hai.....tuhanu Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji ne dastar/pagg diti hai....tusi oho bano.....jehri rahi gal fashion vaste topi paunae dats just an xcuse to get out of it.....ek line hai....dats goes sumtin lyk.....hoi sikh sir topi dhare...
[i will fynd da prope line and update]


IF U WANT TO LEARN SOMETHING U SHOULD WATCH THE MOVIE KAMBDI KALAI
oon tan simple ne be eho line likhi hae maen tuhadi line poori kardi han

hoe sikh topi dhare sat janam kohdi mare.
 

Angel_Eyes

Done Deal !
agree with simple....religion bare eston jini marji te jad marji discussion kralo.. angel eyes ne bilkul thik akhia.eh apni choice hae, par sada dharam eh nahi kehnda te choice dharam ton bahar hoke kiti gayi islai oh sadi apni hae. dharam de kuch rules ne te sanu unha according chalna chahida tan hi asi sahi tarah nal dharam follow kar sakde, je dharam nu follow karna us de rules follow karo. logan de dilan vich dharam di value ghatdi jandi hae te dino din log dharan ton door ho rahe hun. hun according to our gurus, sanu topi nahi wear karni chahidi, te je karde han tan oh dharmo bahar di gal hae. par ek gal hae topi oh munde wear karde jinha de haircut hunde te jadon unha ne haircut hee kar le tan oh pehlan hee dharam vichon out ne meaninig ohna ne dharam tyag dita. jad sar te val hi ni tan sikh kahda. te us lai topi paoni ja na paoni ik barabar.oh tan pehlan hi dharam nu chhikke tang chukia. maenu ni pata eh thread karan wale da idea ki hae te oh pehlan kyon input mang reha. shied koi kafi serious gal kehni chonda.jo be hae mae tan ihi kahangi ke je rab ne sanu sikhan de ghar payda kita hae tan ih rab di marji hi hae ke asi sikh baniea. je rab sanu sikh banna na chonda ta kise hor de ghar pyada karda. is layi sanu rab di raza vich rehna chahida hae. jis than te us ne sanu rakhia hae meaning pyada kita hae sanu use rang vich hee rehna chaheda hae.maenu pata hae mere kaian nal vichar nahi milne. par maen ise tarah sochdi an.

i agree w/ ur post supercat ji (sorry i dunno much abt you and ur name, coz i m not so regular on the forum these days). But as i said guru ta kehnda hai ki "rehat pyari mujhko sikh pyaara nahi", te jo rehat rakh gaya o guru da sacha sikh ta appe ban gaya.(Rehat de vich hi sab aa janda hai, chahe o saroop di rehat hove ja ik chunga insaan banan di jo doojeya ch koi jaat-paat, ooch-neech da bhed nahi dekhda, te humanity de bhale layi kamm karda hai, and as a physical appearance follows the rule of 5 kakaars). Asi rehat nahi rakh sakde shayad asi is layi sache sikh nahi haan, par saade dharm de asool jo hann o sampooran roop vich bahut uche te suche hann. japji sahib vich ehi keha gaya hai ki hukam andhar hi sab kuch hai, galti saade vich hai ki asi nahi mannan yog, par hukam ta galat nahi hai.


Te dhillon saab ghat hi bolde han, is layi bakiya de views pehla lai rahe han, eh baad vich hi koi sola aane sachi gall kehange........hehehe
 

Sonia_Nz

>>>>MaHiYa<<<<
religion baare mei apnee jiadaa vichaar nai deh sakdii but jeh kes rakhee nee then be total sikh n wear turban...i mean sikh mundiaa di taur hi pagg naal hundi ahh and they shld wear it with pride... fir uss vich sharmm ki ahh tht u haftaaa hide it behind the topi...
jeh topi pauni hi ahh teh fir hair hi cut kar loh...adde adde keu ek paasey ho jaoo :an :an
 

SHauKeeN GaBRu

Chardi Kala
main kavaanga ke Guruan ne sannu Dastar ditti hai banan vaste, topi kyon payiye...Dastar saddi Sikhaan di pehchaan hai, sannu Dastar nahi chhadni chahidi....mannu Manmohan Waris da geet yaad aanda hai: WICH HAZARAAN DIS PENDA KALLA SARDAR KHADHA.....Sardar ohi dikhega jinne dastar banni hoye, topi vaale lokki te hor bhathere hon ge...

Bas lokki fashion nu follow karan vaste toppi pehnde han...Sikhaan ne aeniyaan kurbaniyaan dittiyaan Dastar te Kesh vaste, sadda kam se kam aenna te farz banda hai ki Dastar sajayiye.......
 

SHauKeeN GaBRu

Chardi Kala
religion baare mei apnee jiadaa vichaar nai deh sakdii but jeh kes rakhee nee then be total sikh n wear turban...i mean sikh mundiaa di taur hi pagg naal hundi ahh and they shld wear it with pride... fir uss vich sharmm ki ahh tht u haftaaa hide it behind the topi...
jeh topi pauni hi ahh teh fir hair hi cut kar loh...adde adde keu ek paasey ho jaoo :an :an
bahut vadiya gal kiti
but i heard u not Punjaban...thn how do u know that Sardars look good in turban...
 

aMiToJ

·``·»Mohd. Sadiq fan«·``·
nai yaar

Originaly frm TN n hun jithe rendi uthe punjabi kaafi ne

so usnu punjabi bahut changi taraah aandi
 
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