Dasso Ve Pardesiyo Te Punjab De Vaasiyo!

[Konvicted_Jatt]

Mere Dil di gal kiti KJ ne. Bahaut changa laga. Main bhi jyada Self-centered nahin haan. I too want to raise-up our community by doing some noble work like setting up good technical education in Punjab. Helping the poor. (Like KJ ne keha - to donate to some needy.) Helping the needy to study, when he/she cannot fund his/her education and so forth.

I ll share more a bit later...

ah v main sochiya hoyia k apne area ch ik skool kholanga jithe gareeb bachiyaa nu free education, books, uniform provide keeti javegi..

 

[SinghinEU]

ah v main sochiya hoyia k apne area ch ik skool kholanga jithe gareeb bachiyaa nu free education, books, uniform provide keeti javegi..

Yaar apaan kithe hor discuss kariye, nahin taa punjaban ne gusse hojana.
Kehna, "mera thread kharab kari jaande"

Koi thread bana wange edha da jithe discuss kar sakiya

thanksss.

 

[SinghinEU]

Baaki thread related ahi kahoonga, ki ah bahaut hi complex topic hain, ah kuch lines wich nahin bayaan kita jaa sakda. Core point ahi hain ki assi punjabi (majority) well-educated nahin haan. Tusi UPSC de results vekhlo, majority UP, Maharashtra, Kerala to hi top karde ne. Jinne vi IAS officers ne jyada tar saare non-punjabi ne. Private sector wich vi saanu koi preference nahin dinda. So, the only option remaining "Young man go abroad or die tryin".

 

[Panjaban]

reason taan ik-do hee main ne ik ja taan higher study in foreign and 2nd money....ah 2 karan karke bahute punjabi punjab chad k aunde ne...jad assi punjab ch hunde haan taan bahar jaan nu dil karda te bahar aa k punjab vapis jaan nu..... ah sab nazaare dooron hee vekhan nu vadiya lagde ne... a pardes taan mithi jail ne... jehra ik vaar fas giya fer nhi nikal sakda.... main v ethe aayia study karn and apne pind de lokan layee kujh karn.... jo main othe reh k nhi kar sakda..... main taan sochiya hoyia jad main apni study khatam kar lavanga taan apne pind vaasiyaan layee kujh karanga.... in my view gurudware nu money donate karn naalo j aapa poor ppl nu ohna diyaan daughter's dee marriage te devaange taan vadiya hovega... and ingh hee kariya karna main taan...
bas ahi mission te aayia main taan.....

Bohat wadhya ji..barre sohney mission te aye ho bahar tusi taan... Waheguru ji jaroor mehraan karn ge te tuhada eh supna poora karn ge, Best Wishes!




@singhinEU
Mera theread kharaab kari jaande


jst kiddin

 

[deep]

Baaki thread related ahi kahoonga, ki ah bahaut hi complex topic hain, ah kuch lines wich nahin bayaan kita jaa sakda. Core point ahi hain ki assi punjabi (majority) well-educated nahin haan. Tusi UPSC de results vekhlo, majority UP, Maharashtra, Kerala to hi top karde ne. Jinne vi IAS officers ne jyada tar saare non-punjabi ne. Private sector wich vi saanu koi preference nahin dinda. So, the only option remaining "Young man go abroad or die tryin".

bhaji punjabiyan de pichhe rehan da reason v asin aap hi haan, punjab wich 50% jwaakan nu school time ch hi ehi daseya janda koi na kaka parh lae fer tenu bahar bhej deyange..
main thora time ik engg college vich as a lecturer job kiti, it was in rural area and most of the students were from agriculture based families and around 60% never bothered about studies , they have simple reason " sir , bas pass ho jiye, degree ton baad bahar chale jana"

naale je UPSC de results ch other states top karde ne tan galti kisdi sadi apni janta di, oh top karde ne bcoz they prepare hard for it, apne mehnat karan wale ghat hi labhde ne

 

[Panjaban]

bhaji punjabiyan de pichhe rehan da reason v asin aap hi haan, punjab wich 50% jwaakan nu school time ch hi ehi daseya janda koi na kaka parh lae fer tenu bahar bhej deyange..
main thora time ik engg college vich as a lecturer job kiti, it was in rural area and most of the students were from agriculture based families and around 60% never bothered about studies , they have simple reason " sir , bas pass ho jiye, degree ton baad bahar chale jana"

naale je UPSC de results ch other states top karde ne tan galti kisdi sadi apni janta di, oh top karde ne bcoz they prepare hard for it, apne mehnat karan wale ghat hi labhde ne

Sahi keha tusi deep phaaji...lokkan di soch nu pata ni ki hogeya... mere khyaal naal ohna nu options open rakhniya chahidiyan ne.. i mean, kon guarantee denda ke ohna ne pakka bahar challey hee jaana? bahar de chakkar vich uthey v kush nai kar paunde..

 

[onlycheema]

mukkdi gall koi dakka torh k raaji ni ajj kall kamm de naam ton maut paindi
kise nu pata hi ni education di value ki hundi...hunn pindaan all taa bhull hi jayo koi chajj di parhayi karrlu panjvi ch hajey hoyea ni hunda munda te kudiyaan pichhe 5 ladaiyaan ho gayian hundiyaan..........mainu taa gaaneyaan aala jaada kamm khraab lagda baahle sad song chalde ne punjab ch pindaan all..harek gali te sabarkoti hou hans raj hou.
Its all about awareness...te awareness is nil assin lok sidhha taa sochde hi ni.....munda cookery da course karda peyaa ji fir baad ch london bhejna....te aaha australia aala bhoot savaar aa ek lokaan te kujh ni aaunda chall australia uthhe fir dho bhaande te maa de geet gaake laa youtube te.I will blame it on awareness n our educational system dats the first step te uthhon hi mudhh bajjda kise v nikammepann da.

 

[Panjaban]

I have to agree on dat one..media da barra marra parbhav peh reha ajj kall di janta te... interviews vich barriyan chakk chakk ke gallan karde "saada sabhyachaar, saada pehrawa, saadiyan jarran (roots)" te gaaneya di videos ja lyrics velle ehna nu kush yaad ni rehnda doh moohey jehe... grrrrrrr!!!! apni kahi hoi gall te ni tikkde..umm matlab ke jubaan te ni rehnde...akh jhammaki te baddaleya roop vekhan nu milda ehna da...

 

[onlycheema]

ehe sabb dogle ne kinhe pata aa babu maan ne apne gaane ch likhya c kujh smack baare mein line bhull geyaa.....assin ohda show attend c jalandhar kol saareyaan saahmne uhne purhi kaddi c saare gaun bajaun aaleyaan nu ditti c fir gaal kadd k kehande ehde bagair hadd hi ni chalde......ehe jo sunnne sunaune aan ehe sabb galt hunda saare apni soch nu ein wartdey ni ki apna bhala hovey hunn ehi dekh layo.......mere taaye ne makaan laina c gaya dealer kol kehanda achha salaah karke dassde aan dealer aakhda bhau shaam takk karle salaah nahin kall nu rate charde paye ne jameena de market baahli tez chaldi payi aa taye ne mareyaa fone paise rakhe shaamo shaami biyaana karrta kehanda emein lakh hor dena paiju........dealer nu gallan gallan ch pata lag geya ki taaye ne purana makaan vechna aa bass oho kehanda mein vech dinna taaya kehanda naa oho mein aap vechu dealer aakhda bhaiya market ch barhi manndi chaldi payi aa es time akhrot v ni milne ohde tainu hahahahahhaha taaye de uddge rang kehanda mama 5 minutaan ch tu ulat pulat karke rakhti market hahaha

ese layi jithhe fayda udharr jaayo hunn je geet gaune ne chithiye ni chitiye aap rehna canada te interview ch gallan taa karniyaan paindiyaan ne naa kyunki market kadon banndi jadon singer senti karr davey janta nu....shaddo apni akal lagayo dikhawey te naa jayo.

 

[Pardesan Punjaban]

pardesa ch aoun de karan

money
better future
gud system
peace
secuirty
family
edcuation

punjab vaapse nah jaan de karan

ithe aa ke lok ithe de system ch used to ho jande aa...sarre kam bribe te sifarsh ton bina ho jaande...jihre kam ithe phone or net te ho jande...punjab ch ohna noo days lag jaande.......


better future.....same as some other ppl have mentioned ki ithe lok apna better future banouna chounde..ithe ida aa jina hard kam karoge..if u wanna b somethig u can


ithe aa ke saaria n oo quality of life mil jaandi,,,,no one achothers buisness da way we do in punjab...banda chain naal reh sakda if he want to...i know we r social being....per kayie vaar je tusi apne laie time kadna chavo its gud......

specially girls laie jida main sochdi india ch hunde si ghar ton bahar nikaln lage 100 vaar sochi da si..har nukar te munde...bahar jaa ke hasna nahi..kida chalna..ki paouna...u have to think hundred time......ithe j ithe jithe merzi javo...dil kita shops ch jaa avvo...track pain payie aa te oda hi ghum avvo....no one cares........mundia laie te punjab ch theek aa per kudia laie kaafi limits a.......

secuirty. ithe banda kamkarn vaala hove saaria dia basic needs te pooria ho hi jaandia aa...koie bhuka nahi marda...je job nah vi hove te doll vagera aa.....


hor ithe gud system aa compare ton punjab..othe human being di te value hi nahi aa..loki ida katal kar dinde aa jida allo pyaj kat dayie de aa....police kol javo te pusho hi nah......jina kol paisa or sifrash aa aram naal bahar nikal jaande.....poor bande di te koie jindgi hi nahi aa....


baaki ih vi aa jithe thudi family hove tahnoo othe hi changa lagda
bhave punjab hove jaa bahar

je thudi family hi punjab ch nahi aa fer lok othe rahena prefer karde jithe family aa




now da bottom line is jadon lok pardes ch aa ke punjab vaapse jaan de postive and negetive dekhde shied ohna noo pardes ch rahen de postive jiada disde so thats why oh vaapse nahi jande


and aaj kal te punjabi inne bahar aa chuke aa and apna friend circle inna ban jaanda aa te oh ohna noo apna ghar lagda aaso ppl chooze to stay in oversease

 

[Princess6863]

SSA Ji Saareya Nu
Main tuhanu ik sawaal karna chaundi haan...

Pardesiyo:
Mera sawal eh ah ke, assin pardesi jehrre duniya de vakh vakh deshaan vich vassde haan, assin punjab shadd ke kion aaye haan? Assin Panjab diyan yaadaan ch athru v vhaunde aan...te saade vichon kai chaunde ne ke kaash assin wapas ja sakiye, uthey rehan vaaste, par fer v assin wapas ni jaande, bass chuttiyan katt ke aa jaande haan. Saanu kai vaari apne punjab vich vassde mittar sajjan, rishtedaar, bhen, bharaa eh taana maar dinde ne jaddon assin pardesaan de ohna kol dukh rohnde aan ke "Leh, fer uthey kion baithe ho, aa jao wapas aithey..." hor pata ni ki ki kehnde ne ke pehllan challe jaande ne te hun rohnde ne...par main socheya ke kion na assin apne wallon ohna nu eh dassan di koshish kariye ke assin aithey kion baithey haan.. jst general tor te, ki vajaa ah ke saade lokk apna des shadd ke, apna ghar baar shaddke apna pind apne rishtedaar apne dost mittar shadd ke urre ikkale aa ke baithe ne...ki saade shounk ne ja majbooriyan ne?

jo marji kar lao.. somewhere inside.. we wanna stay here nd taht's y we r here.. majboori ya shonk jo marji hove.. it won't matta to nyone.. for me its both majboori nd i wanna live here as well sounds weird eh

well i wud wanna settle there if i get a relli gud job there:D but i'd wanna study here.. atleast its fair for everyone.. othe dhakke naal nalaik pass hoyi jande .. paise deke number layi jande te jihde kol paise ni but has brain ohdi koi value hi ni.. atleast ethe if u dun 've money u get financial aids nd stuff.. apni mehnat naal admission mildi hai.. othe donations naal.. not all parents can afford those donations... not all parents can afford fees.. and maybe thats y smart ppl there r still not recognized. . i jus feel ki ethe kuch v hove.. je bande ch talent hai te kuch ban jau.. if u relli wanna study.. u "can" study.. govt. helps u.. othe bas quota ne jaan khadi.. and paran aale bacheyan nu admission ni mildi.. quota /donations naal jayi jande par v lavo te job ni.. 've seen engineers 5000rs di job kardeteachers nu koi job ni.. koi v job ni.. fer ehi majboori shonk ban janda.. ya banana penda
im not gud at explaining things .. but hope u got my point

 

[SehaJ]

jo marji kar lao.. somewhere inside.. we wanna stay here nd taht's y we r here.. majboori ya shonk jo marji hove.. it won't matta to nyone.. for me its both majboori nd i wanna live here as well sounds weird eh

well i wud wanna settle there if i get a relli gud job there:D but i'd wanna study here.. atleast its fair for everyone.. othe dhakke naal nalaik pass hoyi jande .. paise deke number layi jande te jihde kol paise ni but has brain ohdi koi value hi ni.. atleast ethe if u dun 've money u get financial aids nd stuff.. apni mehnat naal admission mildi hai.. othe donations naal.. not all parents can afford those donations... not all parents can afford fees.. and maybe thats y smart ppl there r still not recognized. . i jus feel ki ethe kuch v hove.. je bande ch talent hai te kuch ban jau.. if u relli wanna study.. u "can" study.. govt. helps u.. othe bas quota ne jaan khadi.. and paran aale bacheyan nu admission ni mildi.. quota /donations naal jayi jande par v lavo te job ni.. 've seen engineers 5000rs di job kardeteachers nu koi job ni.. koi v job ni.. fer ehi majboori shonk ban janda.. ya banana penda
im not gud at explaining things .. but hope u got my point

Hello Good Morning :

Actually i would say u are living far behind... to know whats happening india... do u know how admisions are done? The system has totally changed now.. except in some rural areas... otherwise system here is totally transparent... (Exceptions are always thier).. but if a child wanna study here... he can do wonders here also... its just ur perception that u r gonna do well in abroad....anyways u cleared ur point that u wanna live thier.. so everything clear

 

[onlycheema]

jo marji kar lao.. somewhere inside.. we wanna stay here nd taht's y we r here.. majboori ya shonk jo marji hove.. it won't matta to nyone.. for me its both majboori nd i wanna live here as well sounds weird eh

well i wud wanna settle there if i get a relli gud job there:D but i'd wanna study here.. atleast its fair for everyone.. othe dhakke naal nalaik pass hoyi jande .. paise deke number layi jande te jihde kol paise ni but has brain ohdi koi value hi ni.. atleast ethe if u dun 've money u get financial aids nd stuff.. apni mehnat naal admission mildi hai.. othe donations naal.. not all parents can afford those donations... not all parents can afford fees.. and maybe thats y smart ppl there r still not recognized. . i jus feel ki ethe kuch v hove.. je bande ch talent hai te kuch ban jau.. if u relli wanna study.. u "can" study.. govt. helps u.. othe bas quota ne jaan khadi.. and paran aale bacheyan nu admission ni mildi.. quota /donations naal jayi jande par v lavo te job ni.. 've seen engineers 5000rs di job kardeteachers nu koi job ni.. koi v job ni.. fer ehi majboori shonk ban janda.. ya banana penda
im not gud at explaining things .. but hope u got my point

Talent india ch hou naa india ch v bann jayu gall krni donations di IIT IIM PEC jaa eho kitey insti ch admission laeke dikhaa fir manna tainu naa 2 saal parhdi parhdi adhi rehjaan tere argiyaan.........emein kuch pata haini parr mooh maarna hunda kehri govt. help kardi scholarship bhull jaa ajj kall de jamaney ch te bai PHD saathon hundi ni

 

[SehaJ]

Agreed @ Cheema 22

 

[pps309]

Reasons I am here:
My Preet Kaur
Better Job than in India,
Better Salary,
Better lifestyle,
More Freedom,
More Punjabis here than in Bangalore.

Why I wanna go to India:
Mera pind,
Mere parents
Mere bhai, bahen rishtedar

I will go back to India once my sisters are married and if I can't get my parents here with me.

One more reason to live here is that now I am well earning I tries to put some part of my monthly income in community work.

 

[SehaJ]

22 ji... i can argue with u here at many points... but the point is that it wont effect us in any way!

 

[onlycheema]

Reasons I am here:
Better Job than in India,
Better Salary,
Better lifestyle,
More Freedom,
More Punjabis here than in Bangalore.

Agree on all the points leave second one....i can get a job in india after my undergrad degree and will get the same job here after i complete my grad degree but the latitude and experience i will get here is unparalleled.......promotion comes easily n definitely a better job.....lifestyle yeah there's difference what we perceive therein india......and last point so so so damn true punjabis are just the guys to chill out with...baniyaas n lalas n all damn man ehne korey loki ji karda maar dayie......ek punjabi milje naa hassdeyaan hassdeyaan dihaari paar karr dayidi aa....seriously i am just too happy at your last point.

India ch ehi khaasiyatt aa bass oh dharti mere guruaan di dharti aa te mein ehna karr saknaa ki apni sikhi naa bhulla waheguru ne ehniaan daatan bakshiyan ne jinne jogey assin hai v ni.

 

[Princess6863]

Hello Good Morning :

Actually i would say u are living far behind... to know whats happening india... do u know how admisions are done? The system has totally changed now.. except in some rural areas... otherwise system here is totally transparent... (Exceptions are always thier).. but if a child wanna study here... he can do wonders here also... its just ur perception that u r gonna do well in abroad....anyways u cleared ur point that u wanna live thier.. so everything clear

lol gud morning
well im talkin in general .. not all students r able to get into IIT IIM PEC etc. wat about the other people.. ?? oh ki karange.. ? ehn institutions ch kinne k bache par lenge..
ehna v change ni hoyaa.. aje v ohi hai.. govt. school da bacha convent school de bache da muqabla ni kar sakda.. average student nai kar sakda..
nd i didn't say im gnna do well here or nythin.. all i said is ki its sumtimes or most of the time unfair wid other kids jad paise deke dooje number le jande maybe im wrong but jo v hai.. othe paise naal kuch v ho sakda.. i ain't saying ki ethe bayimani ni.. hegi aa.. govt hi baimani kar jandi hai hor ki kehna but it doesn't relli affect a particular group.. provincial exams band karte.. nd main reason i blv is money.. they wanted to reduce the cost so they made provincial exams optional..
u can still become smth even if u've done a bclrs degree.. u can get a job for ur living nd that living won't b as bad.. india ch bchlrs karke kihne firde.. koi job ni.. masters karke v 15000 approx di job te dhakke mil rahe ne..(starting) banda fees kitho poori kare? jihde parents kol paise ni oh kitho parega ache institutes ch? parr v leya te fees de p aise kitho poore karu.. ehne engineering colgs khul gaye.. kinne engineers graduate honge otho.. kinneya k nu job milu? jus think bout it in general

Talent india ch hou naa india ch v bann jayu gall krni donations di IIT IIM PEC jaa eho kitey insti ch admission laeke dikhaa fir manna tainu naa 2 saal parhdi parhdi adhi rehjaan tere argiyaan.........emein kuch pata haini parr mooh maarna hunda kehri govt. help kardi scholarship bhull jaa ajj kall de jamaney ch te bai PHD saathon hundi ni

not all ppl get admission in IIT IIM PEC iz talkin in general .. most institutions ask for donations
nd i neva said im smart or w/e .. iz jus sayin ki an average student like me.. won't get admission there... in a normal institute widout donations.. nd a middle class family won't b able to afford dat..
u're jus talkin bout super duper intelligent students.. IIT IIM PEC etc ch kinne k par lenge.. there r smart brains out there on teh roads .. rarely they get a chance to study..

 

[pps309]

22 ji... i can argue with u here at many points... but the point is that it wont effect us in any way!

Veere you can argue, i don't mind...

 

[pps309]

Agree on all the points leave second one....i can get a job in india after my undergrad degree and will get the same job here after i complete my grad degree but the latitude and experience i will get here is unparalleled.......promotion comes easily n definitely a better job.....lifestyle yeah there's difference what we perceive therein india......and last point so so so damn true punjabis are just the guys to chill out with...baniyaas n lalas n all damn man ehne korey loki ji karda maar dayie......ek punjabi milje naa hassdeyaan hassdeyaan dihaari paar karr dayidi aa....seriously i am just too happy at your last point.

India ch ehi khaasiyatt aa bass oh dharti mere guruaan di dharti aa te mein ehna karr saknaa ki apni sikhi naa bhulla waheguru ne ehniaan daatan bakshiyan ne jinne jogey assin hai v ni.

Good ji, rabb edda hi mehar rakhe thode te veer ji.

Pata veer ji main better job kiss hisab naal kaya.
The type of technical work I am doing here is what I can never do in India. Main networking R&D industry ch aa. Kehan nu main C ch coding karda te oh India v duniya bhar di karan nu mil jaugi.

But here I participate in Design and Architecure meetings. I am participating in design meetings from Day 1. Initial draft of system architecture for new router is framed with inputs from all of us in the team. Our team in US has architects from Japan, France and Scandivanian countries. That exposure I can never get in India. Now this project will get its first 2 years of development here in US, once that is done then all these design documents and architecture notes will go to India and they will do rest of coding and handle lil bit design issues.
Crux of the work is done here. I have worked 3 years in India also, I never get that exposure. People do work in Cisco, India or Nortel, India and here in US also. If you ask them the complexity of technical work it is surely more in US.

India may be developing web/finance/banking softwares from scratch but I was never in that field. I have always been in system engineering and I know in my field most of the good work is initially done here then goes to India.