birth of the Khalsa(Baisakhi 1699)

[smilly]

When Guru Ji demanded someone's head for a third time a Khatri from Lahore stepped forward. Guru Ji immediately took him to the nearby tent, a thud was heard from within and Guru ji appeared with his sword dripping with blood. The same demand was repeated and four more times Sikhs stepped up and offered their lives to Guru Ji.

 

[Ramta]

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When Guru Ji demanded someone's head for a third time a Khatri from Lahore stepped forward. Guru Ji immediately took him to the nearby tent, a thud was heard from within and Guru ji appeared with his sword dripping with blood. The same demand was repeated and four more times Sikhs stepped up and offered their lives to Guru Ji.

There you go again !!
You mention the gotra of a 'Khatri' but fail to mention
the caste of the other four Sikh.

The Panj Pyaara's were :
1) Daya Ram, a Khatri of Lahore,
2) Dharam Das, a Jat from Hastinapur,
3) Mohkam Chand, a calico printer/tailor from Dwarka,
4) Himmat Rai, a water-bearer from Jagannath, and
5) Sahib Chand, a barber from Bidar.

And not all of them were Punjabi.

Thanks

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[Dhillon]

It's mentioned there in the table.

 

[Ramta]

It's mentioned there in the table.

The oversight is greatly regretted.
Thanks

 

[Johal]

The oversight is greatly regretted.
Thanks

its stated in the table. why are you pointing caste every where.

you are not getting any knoweldge from the thread.
u r just finding the point to question the thread.

why soo???

 

[smilly]

thanx ......... johal 22 ji ......

Es diyaan galan di parvaa na karo dear......

bas gaj ke balo fateh....

waheguru ji ka khalsa .....
waheguru ji ki fateh.......

 

[Da Tiwana]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]What truly happened inside the tent is a secret known only to the Guru. [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]One thought that still persists is that goats were slaughtered. This defies all sense. If Guru Ji had killed goats then proclaimed that he had sacrificed the Sikhs would this not be fraud ? On one of the most important days in Sikh history would Guru Gobind Singh Ji have defrauded his own Sikhs, the same Sikhs for which he was prepared to give his own life to? Would that mean that the foundation of the Khalsa was flawed ? There were up to 200,000 people at the gathering, there were spies from Emperor Aurangzebs court , would not someone have noticed half a dozen or so goats being brought in ? If you kill an animal infront of another the rest start to cause a commotion as they hear the death throws of there companion. If indeed goats were killed would not someone have heard them, could Guru Ji risk this happening ? Are we not belittling our glorious Guru by suggesting that he lied to us ? Should we not have faith in our Guru Ji that the divine shakti that he possessed was used on the greatest event that has ever happened, the birth of the Khalsa.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Although there are several differing historical accounts and consequent interpretations regarding the events that took place upon that dramatic day in 1699, the majority of Sikhs are of the firm conviction that the heads of these Five Beloved Disciples were actually severed from their bodies and then later re-attached through The Guru's miraculous powers. As far as His Sikhs are concerned, The Guru requested five heads and that was what He took in order to test the Khalsa's willingness to sacrifice all for their Guru.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]It can be argued that without the actual act of decapitation, it would have been an incomplete test and perhaps even a dishonest request upon the part of The Guru; perhaps it is for this reason that Sikhs have such faith that The Guru did as the The Guru said He would. [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]It also follows therefore that without being 'killed', these Five Beloved Disciples would not have had the opportunity to be 'reborn' as The Khalsa of The Guru which is clearly the very concept that The Guru intended to put across to His Sikhs. However, why did The Guru go through all this trouble to make a seemingly simple point?[/FONT]

Eyewitness Account of Vaisakhi 1699

(From an Urdu Pamphlet)
Bhai Veer Singh mentions Abu-ul-Trafi in his book. He was spying on Guru Gobind Singh for a year and a half. This is how the incident is recorded in this spy's journal:
"On the day Guru Gobind Singh Ji prepared Amrit in Anandpur, the attendance in the Diwan was about 35 to 40 thousands. The Mughals had four thrones (seats of Imperial Power), Delhi, Agra, Lahore and Kalanur, but the grandeur of Guru Ji's throne was in a class by itself. The grandeur of this throne was out of this world.
Guru Ji came to the Diwan and, unsheathing his sword, spoke in his thundering voice that he needed a head. No questions or hesitation at all, Bhai Dya Ram came forward to Guru Ji. Guru Ji right in front of all, cut off his head from the body in one stroke. Every body present was stunned. Then Guru Ji again thundered and demanded one more head. Right on Guru's call, Dharam Chand got up, came to Guru Ji, bowed his head and said here is my offering of my head. Guru Ji, again, in one stroke cut off Dharam Chand's head from his body.
Now there was a big commotion in the Diwan. But Guru Ji in his thundering voice went on demanding heads, one after the other. Himmat Rai, Mohkam Chand and Sahib Ram got up and offered their heads. Guru Ji cut off the heads of these three also.
Many from the congregation went to Guru Ji's mother, and narrated the whole happenings in the Diwan to Mata Ji.
Guru Ji cleaned up the blood from the five bodies and heads, and even washed the floor, Then the Guru of these infidels, stitched one head with other body, one by one. This process took about three hours. Then he covered these dead bodies with white sheets.
The Guru of the infidels then took a cauldron made of stone and put an iron wok without handles on top of it. Poured water into the wok and started preparing the "Amrit" (Aab-e-hyat - Elixir of life). The infidel Guru kept churning the water with his sword and kept on reciting his Kalma (Gurbani). This process went on for 1.5 to 2 hours. During this time, a lady from Guru's house came and put something in that water. Now the Amrit "Elixir" was ready.
From the corpses, he took the covering sheets off. First he sat on the head side of Dya Ram, and poured AMRIT "Elixir" in his mouth, then poured some on his head and sprinkled some on his body, and then he asked the dead body to say "Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh." As if on his Guru's Command, Dya Ram got up and repeated in his bold voice,"Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh."
It appeared that in the entire congregation every body was so stunned and as if stopped breathing. There was pin-drop silence. All those present were mesmerized with their Guru's miracle. In the same manner, one after the other, Guru made the other four alive too.
Then, he took all five of them inside a tent. After a while Guru Ji along with the five came out. The Five were now wearing new attire. Those five risen from the dead were standing in a line. Then Guru came in front of them and took the "Bir Asan" (Posture of the brave - kneeling on one knee) and asked for the Amrit "Elixir." At this point, these five asked, what are you offering to get this Amrit "Elixir." Then Guru said that I would sacrifice my parents and my sons for your sake. Then these five gave Amrit "Elixir" to Guru Ji, and his name was changed to "Gobind Singh." The word "Singh" was attached with other five's too - Dya Singh, Dharam Singh, Himmat Singh, Mohkam Singh and Sahib Singh.
Abu-el-Trafi writes that I was very remorseful and cried like a baby. After that, thousands took the AMRIT "Elixir". Even, I was attracted by a magnetic force and with utmost regret fell on Guru's feet. I requested Guru to give me Amrit (Aaab-e-hyat) too. Guru Ji already knew about my role as a spy and a traitor, put his hand on my back, gave me Amrit and changed my name to Ajmer Singh. Just with this act, my sins of numerous lives got washed away. I participated in many wars.
On that day, I sent my last report to Emperor Aurang Zeb. In this report I wrote my eyewitness account in details. I also warned Aurang Zeb in the strongest possible words not to dare challenge the incarnation of God, and desist from cruel policies and that if he did not listen to and act on my advise, then God forbid, he would lose all - his throne and family.
Gyani Dalip Singh "Komal" of Dhaunola informed that this book is lying in the archives of Aligarh University."
(Extracted from the unpublished, "History of Ramgarhias") If any body doubts the above eyewitness account of the Visakhi of 1699, Guru Granth Sahib Ji says," Ikna nu Satguru Ki partit na Aaye." (Some who have no faith in their Guru)

hope it settles something and maybe somebody like me, might believe in all this here.

 

[nijjhar]

Hi,

This story is believable as Sachae Patshah never hides any thing from public. So, he cut the heads in front of everyone and not in a tent. The He stiched their heads each ones to himself or shared the body and head with others. He did take them in a Tent to change their dress to blue of Shiv or Krishan.

So, no goats were sacrificed for sure.

By cutting off the heads, mean cutting off the secular attachments such as families, land, etc, which Sachae Patshah Gobind Singh Ji stressed before taking Amrit.

In the company of God, there is no taking or giving but your relationship is at par. This Jesus stressed in the Parable of woman who was marrying the brothers of dead husbands. When she married the Seventh One, God, there is no taking or giving.

Good information and congratulations. Put such information but beware of the Khatris, the Kings and Emperors of Darkness, the greatest hypocrites of all.

Eyewitness Account of Vaisakhi 1699

(From an Urdu Pamphlet)
Bhai Veer Singh mentions Abu-ul-Trafi in his book. He was spying on Guru Gobind Singh for a year and a half. This is how the incident is recorded in this spy's journal:
"On the day Guru Gobind Singh Ji prepared Amrit in Anandpur, the attendance in the Diwan was about 35 to 40 thousands. The Mughals had four thrones (seats of Imperial Power), Delhi, Agra, Lahore and Kalanur, but the grandeur of Guru Ji's throne was in a class by itself. The grandeur of this throne was out of this world.
Guru Ji came to the Diwan and, unsheathing his sword, spoke in his thundering voice that he needed a head. No questions or hesitation at all, Bhai Dya Ram came forward to Guru Ji. Guru Ji right in front of all, cut off his head from the body in one stroke. Every body present was stunned. Then Guru Ji again thundered and demanded one more head. Right on Guru's call, Dharam Chand got up, came to Guru Ji, bowed his head and said here is my offering of my head. Guru Ji, again, in one stroke cut off Dharam Chand's head from his body.
Now there was a big commotion in the Diwan. But Guru Ji in his thundering voice went on demanding heads, one after the other. Himmat Rai, Mohkam Chand and Sahib Ram got up and offered their heads. Guru Ji cut off the heads of these three also.
Many from the congregation went to Guru Ji's mother, and narrated the whole happenings in the Diwan to Mata Ji.
Guru Ji cleaned up the blood from the five bodies and heads, and even washed the floor, Then the Guru of these infidels, stitched one head with other body, one by one. This process took about three hours. Then he covered these dead bodies with white sheets.
The Guru of the infidels then took a cauldron made of stone and put an iron wok without handles on top of it. Poured water into the wok and started preparing the "Amrit" (Aab-e-hyat - Elixir of life). The infidel Guru kept churning the water with his sword and kept on reciting his Kalma (Gurbani). This process went on for 1.5 to 2 hours. During this time, a lady from Guru's house came and put something in that water. Now the Amrit "Elixir" was ready.
From the corpses, he took the covering sheets off. First he sat on the head side of Dya Ram, and poured AMRIT "Elixir" in his mouth, then poured some on his head and sprinkled some on his body, and then he asked the dead body to say "Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh." As if on his Guru's Command, Dya Ram got up and repeated in his bold voice,"Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh."
It appeared that in the entire congregation every body was so stunned and as if stopped breathing. There was pin-drop silence. All those present were mesmerized with their Guru's miracle. In the same manner, one after the other, Guru made the other four alive too.
Then, he took all five of them inside a tent. After a while Guru Ji along with the five came out. The Five were now wearing new attire. Those five risen from the dead were standing in a line. Then Guru came in front of them and took the "Bir Asan" (Posture of the brave - kneeling on one knee) and asked for the Amrit "Elixir." At this point, these five asked, what are you offering to get this Amrit "Elixir." Then Guru said that I would sacrifice my parents and my sons for your sake. Then these five gave Amrit "Elixir" to Guru Ji, and his name was changed to "Gobind Singh." The word "Singh" was attached with other five's too - Dya Singh, Dharam Singh, Himmat Singh, Mohkam Singh and Sahib Singh.
Abu-el-Trafi writes that I was very remorseful and cried like a baby. After that, thousands took the AMRIT "Elixir". Even, I was attracted by a magnetic force and with utmost regret fell on Guru's feet. I requested Guru to give me Amrit (Aaab-e-hyat) too. Guru Ji already knew about my role as a spy and a traitor, put his hand on my back, gave me Amrit and changed my name to Ajmer Singh. Just with this act, my sins of numerous lives got washed away. I participated in many wars.
On that day, I sent my last report to Emperor Aurang Zeb. In this report I wrote my eyewitness account in details. I also warned Aurang Zeb in the strongest possible words not to dare challenge the incarnation of God, and desist from cruel policies and that if he did not listen to and act on my advise, then God forbid, he would lose all - his throne and family.
Gyani Dalip Singh "Komal" of Dhaunola informed that this book is lying in the archives of Aligarh University."
(Extracted from the unpublished, "History of Ramgarhias") If any body doubts the above eyewitness account of the Visakhi of 1699, Guru Granth Sahib Ji says," Ikna nu Satguru Ki partit na Aaye." (Some who have no faith in their Guru)

hope it settles something and maybe somebody like me, might believe in all this here.