Bebe Nanaki - First Sikh ?


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by 3012 everyone will be atheist , unless some could logically prove the exisence of God.

Hindu's won't really hv a problem with that.

O, the highly wise! Arrive at a conclusion, therefore, that there is nothing beyond this Universe.
Give precedence to that which meets the eye and turn your back on what is beyond our knowledge.

-- 2.108.17 Ayodhya Kanda, Ramayana

Carvaka is a heterodox Hindu, meaning Nastika, system, n is characterised as an atheistic school of thought in Hinduism.
D first principle of Carvaka philosophy was the rejection of inference as a means to establish metaphysical truths.
Carvaka means "agreeable speech". It's also referred to as Lokayata.

Some Quotes:

The building of places of worship and other such resting places, please only travelers, not others.

The Agnihotra, the three Vedas, the ascetic's three staves, and smearing one's self with ashes,
Were made by Nature as the livelihood of those destitute of knowledge and manliness.

The fire is hot, the water cold, refreshing cool the breeze of morn;
By whom came this variety ? from their own nature was it born.

Springing forth from these elements itself
solid knowledge is destroyed
when they are destroyed—
after death no intelligence remains.

Among the various schools of Hindu philosophy, Mimamsa, and Samkhya typically rejects a personal God, creator God,
or a God with attributes. While Samkhya rejected the idea of an eternal, self-caused, creator God, Mimamsa argued that
there was no need to postulate a maker for the world, or a God to validate the rituals, and that the Gods named in the Vedas
had no physical existence apart from the mantras that speak their names, in which regard the power of the mantras was what
was seen as the power of Gods.

D truth is dat there is no proof of the existence of God.
He is not the object of perception, n there exists no proposition, even in d SGGS,
that can prove d existence of God by inference and testimony.

Whence was it produced? Whence is this creation?
The gods came afterwards, with the creation of this universe.