Why I am an Atheist - Bhagat Singh [1907-1931]

Ramta

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On my reading of Indian history and the independence struggle one of the people that I have most time for is Bhagat Singh.

Martyed at the age of 23 with Sukhdev Thapar and Hariram Rajguru his name remains as a shining example of a freedom fighter.

Bhagat Singh was a staunch Marxist.

His immediate family was Arya Samaji, He grew up in Arya Samaj influence. Many Sikh families had joined Arya Samaj movement.

Bhagat Singh was a member of Hindustan Republican Army and he was deeply influenced by Lenin, Bakunin and Marx. He wanted an armed revolution to throw out British on the lines of Bolsheviks in USSR.

Baba Randhir Singhn of Akhand Kirtani Jatha , a freedom fighter, was in Lahore (then in India) Central Jail in 1930-31. He was a God-fearing religious man. It pained him to learn that Bhagat Singh was a non-believer. He somehow managed to see Bhagat Singh in the condemned cell and tried to convince him about the existence of God, but failed. Baba lost his temper and said: “You are giddy with fame and have developed and ego which is standing like a black curtain between you and the God.”

It was in reply to that remark that Bhagat Singh wrote this pamphlet ,"Why I am an Atheist" from jail to clarify his points on atheism.

He died an atheist.

He was hanged at the age of 23.

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Excerpts from “Why I am An Athiest“ by Bhagat Singh - Bhagat Singh [1907-1931]

“.....In May 1927 I was arrested at Lahore. The arrest was a surprise. I was quite unaware of the fact that the police wanted me. All of a sudden, while passing through a garden, I found myself surrounded by police. To my own surprise, I was very clam at that time. I did not feel any sensation.....“

“.....Let us see how I carry on. One friend asked me to pray. When informed of my atheism, he said: “During your last days you will begin to believe.” I said: “No, dear Sir, it shall not be. I will think that to be an act of degradation and demoralisation on my part. For selfish motives I am not going to pray.” Readers and friends: Is this “vanity”? If it is, I stand for it.....”

“.....After great consideration I decided that I could not lead myself to believe in and pray to God. No, I never did. That was the real test and I came out successful. Never for a moment did I desire to save my neck at the cost of certain other things. So I was a staunch disbeliever; and have ever since been. It was not an easy job to stand that test. ‘Belief’ softens the hardships, even can make them pleasant. In God man can find very strong consolation and support. Without Him man has to depend upon himself. To stand upon one’s own legs amid storms and hurricanes is not a child’s play. At such testing moments, vanity-if-any-evaporates and man cannot dare to defy the general beliefs. If he does, then we must conclude that he has got certain other strength than mere vanity. This is exactly the situation now. Judgement is already too well known. Within a week it is to be pronounced. What is the consolation with the exception of the idea tat I am going to sacrifice my life for a cause? A God-believing Hindu might be expecting to be reborn as a king, a Muslim or a Christian might dream of the luxuries to be enjoyed in paradise and the reward he is to get for his suffering and sacrifices. But, what am I to expect? I know the moment under my feet, that will be the final moment-that will be the last moment. I, or to be more precise, my soul as interpreted in the metaphysical terminology shall all be finished there. Nothing further. A short life of struggle with no such magnificent end, shall in itself be the reward, if I have the courage to take it in that light.....“

“.....With no selfish motive or desire to be awarded here or hereafter, quite disinterestedly, have I devoted my life to the cause of independence, because I could not do otherwise. The day we find a great number of men and women with this psychology, who cannot devote themselves to anything else than the service of mankind and emancipation of the suffering humanity, that day shall inaugurate the era of liberty. Not to become a king, nor to gain any other rewards here, or in the next birth or after death in paradise, shall they be inspired to challenge the oppressors, exploiters, and tyrants, but to cast off the yoke of serfdom from the neck of humanity and to establish liberty and peace shall they tread this-to their individual selves perilous and to their noble selves the only glorious imaginable-path. Is the pride in their noble cause to be misinterpreted as vanity? Who dares to utter such an abominable epithet? To him I say either he is a fool or a knave. Let us forgive him for he cannot realise the depth, the emotion, the sentiment and the noble feelings that surge in that heart. His heart is dead as a mere lump of flesh, his eyes are weak, the evils of other interests having been cast over them. Self-reliance is always liable to be interpreted as vanity. It is sad and miserable but there is no help.....”

“.....As for the first question, I think I have cleared that it is not vanity that has led me to atheism. My way of argument has proved to be convincing or not, that is to be judged by my readers, not me. I know in the present circumstances my faith in God would have made my life easier, my burden lighter, and my disbelief in Him has turned all the circumstances too dry, and the situation may assume too harsh a shape. A little bit of mysticism can make it poetical. But I do not want the help of any intoxication to meet my fate. I am a realist. I have been trying to overpower the instinct in me by the help of reason. I have not always been successful in achieving this end. But man’s duty is to try and endeavour, success depends upon chance and environments.....”

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Bhagat Singh was a critical revolutionary in the best traditions of Marx, Engels and Lenin. Asking young men to read The Dreamland, he warns: "Do not read it to follow blindly and take for granted what is written in it. Read it, criticise it, think over it, and try to formulate your own ideas with its help".

Though not directly brought out by Bhagat Singh in these essays, they help clarify one other important aspect-that of the difference between religion as a source of nationalist inspiration and communalism. The early revolutionaries took to religion and mysticism for inspiration and ideology, but they were not communalists. To them, religion was a source of inner strength and not the basis of their politics. It inspired them to become fighters for national liberation of all Indian people and not organisers of communal politics spouting hate against other sections of Indian people. While their religious and mystical beliefs led them to fight against imperialism, the communalists were often pro-imperialism subjectively and invariably served imperialism objectively by dividing the united Indian people and turning the edge of their politics against other Indians and not against imperialism.

How close is young Bhagat Singh to the thinking of young Marx. This is what Marx wrote in 1844: "Religion is the general theory of that world, its encyclopedic compendium, its logic in a popular form, its spiritualistic point d'honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanctions its solemn complement, its universal source of consolation and justifica­tion.... Religious distress is at the same time the expression of real dis­tress and also the protest against real distress. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of spiritless conditions. It is the opium of the people. To abolish religion as the illusory happiness of the people is to demand their real happi­ness". Collected Works, Vol. III, 1975, pp. 175-6. Even though Bhagat Singh could not have read this passage, he understood better than most others what Marx meant when he described religion as "the opium of the people".

Links :

Why I Am An Atheist - Shaheed Bhagat ( 1907 - 1931 )

Bhagat Singh's last petition

Letter to Father

Letter to Sukhdev

Leaflet thrown in the Central Assembly Hall

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pps309

Prime VIP
O kabutra....i have not read ur this post....tu 2 line ch bol tu kehna ki chaouna.....

Te haan duji gal......oh jehri enni sari discussion sigiya......ohna cho ki ghat laya tu.....

Hun ik gal kann khol ke sun la......tere varge kinne jamke marge.....Sikhi is standing tall and will always.

tere warge kolo apna dharam ta samya nahi janda....thodi fatti rehndi aa...tusi dujya de kann bharan aa jane aa.......apne aap nu sudhar la jaake...

BTW what is your religion? Tera koi religion hai bi ya nahi?


Now regarding Bhagat Singh......I respect him for his patritism...he is know to be a shaeed. We all respect him for his love for country and his socialistic views, not for his religious stuff.
So about religion whatever he has said (although i do not trust u and ur sources) is his personal opinion.
 

Angel_Eyes

Done Deal !
what is the point of this post BS?
what are we trying to prove that if a person so great as Bhagat singh was an atheist (which i dont even believe), everyone shud go atheist now.
or are u trying to say that being a sikh he didnt follow his religion? and so we shall not either.
i really dont understand what u want.
 

Angel_Eyes

Done Deal !
And i dont understand what u mean my saying that lots of sikhs had joined arya samaji movement. So what? if they have some good beliefs whats wrong in following them. I respect lot of arya samaji beliefs too, thats coz i just respect them, that does not make me any less sikh. Your problem is that u only wanna put sikhism down and seriously its not making any difference. We respect Bhagat singh for what he did for the country, not for his religious beliefs. I think we have guru granth sahib ji to follow for what we wanna follow religiously.
 

SHauKeeN GaBRu

Chardi Kala
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]This is very long , but worth reading. Bhagat Singh's 99th birth anniversary is on September 27, 2006. This email is about a meeting that took place between Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh Jee and Shaheed Bhagat Singh in jail. In case you are wondering who was Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh Jee, he was a freedom fighter who spent 17 years in jail and even suffered tortures at the hands of the British. Soon after his release in 1930, Bhai Sahib was honored by Sri Akal Takht Sahib with a Hukumnamah and a robe of honor, recognizing his steadfastness in faith and selfless sacrifices. He is the second person to have been honored by Sri Akal Takht Sahib during this century, the other person being Baba Kharak Singh, the renowned Panthic leader of the late twenties. Afterwards, the other three Takhts also honored him in the same way, thus making him the only single person to have been honored from all the original four Takhts in the last hundred years of Sikh history. (Damdama Sahib was declared the fifth Takhat later). Robes of honor and a gold medallion were also sent to him by the Sikhs of U.S.A. and Canada. He was selected as one of the Panj Pyaras to inaugurate the Kar Seva of the sarover of Gurdwara Tarn Taran Sahib, and to lay the foundation stones of the new buildings of the Gurdwaras at Panja Sahib and Shahidganj Nankana Sahib, besides those of the Bungas at Patna Sahib and Kavi Darbar Asthan at Paonta Sahib. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]Here is a portion from Bhai Sahib's autobiography where he details his conversation with Shaheed Bhagat Singh a few months before his execution. Please read it and stop believing what Bollywood has been feeding you.[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]Taken from Autobiography of Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh Ji - Meeting with Bhagat Singh, The Great Patriot - Chapter 25[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif] AT LAST THE day came, It was 6 P.M. on 4th October, 1930. The news of my release was announced and everyone was very happy about it. I was sitting in a blissful solitude within my cell. All the patriots rushed towards my cell to break the news to me and congratulate me. The first to come and congratulate me was Bhai Gajjan Singh (Master). In a matter of minutes other patriots gathered around me and read joyfully the orders of release. I was overwhelmed not so much by the joy of release as by the separation I would have to bear from devoted friends like Bhai Kartar Singh (of Canada). I was overwhelmed by these dual emotions of joy and sorrow when friends came to bid good-bye with loving embraces. The prison officials stood there ready to carry out the order of my release but my feet were reluctant to move away from such dear companions. I embraced everyone of them and after a few affection*ate words with each one of them, I left them all with tears in their eyes. The stream separated from the river at last.

When I went out of these prison-wards I met Mohammed Akbar near the central dome. He was smiling and coming towards me. On seeing me he congratulated me for my release. Inattentive to his felicitations, I told him that it was time that he should fulfil his promise. He should not miss the chance. He smiled and said that he had already made arrangement for the meeting with Bhagat Singh. You could now meet him for full two hours. I asked him if he had taken permission from the Superintendent.

Daroga: Before I found it necessary to ask him, the Superin*tendent was already worried and puzzled and was seeking a way out of a difficult situation. His worry is that you should be quietly released without giving any chance to outsiders to make much noise about your release. He asked me to find a way out of this difficulty. He said, there are regular pickets of people outside, who are waiting for the news of the release of political prisoners. As soon as a political prisoner is released the news spreads like fire and there is a great noise and hubbub of long processions, which are very disturbing to the Government. The Government has issued strict instructions, that the release should be secret and quiet. You see people sitting near the prison gates in regular pickets till sunset you must make some arrangement to send Randhir Singh out secretly and quietly so that we may not be blamed for anything later on.

At that very moment I asked the Superintendent not to worry and suggested to him the plan, saying, "You remember sir, the day Randhir Singh came to this prison, Bhagat Singh who has been sentenced to death submitted an application for permission to meet him, but you rejected it. I believe that if we now allow him to meet Randhir Singh, the meeting may take about two hours. It will quite dark by then and by 8 P.M. we will send Randhir Singh out. Thus strict secrecy about the release will be maintained." The Superintendent was impressed by this suggestion and gladly issued orders to allow this meeting and you can talk freely as long as you like. I will now give you a warder, who will guide you to Bhagat Singh.
So saying, he sent a prison-warder with me and ordered him to permit us to have an unrestricted meeting. Bhagat Singh was taking his daily stroll in the prison compound. He had been told about the permission granted for this meeting. On seeing me he came running towards me. I was standing outside the fence of the courtyard. He came close to the fence and greeted me with great love and affection, bowing low out of reverence. I also folded my hands and greeted him warmly. The warder moved away when we were together. Even the policemen on duty in the compound kept away from us. We were all alone facing each other.

Bhagat Singh was so overwhelmed by the joy of meeting after months of anxious moments, that tears rolled down his eyes I had hardly met anyone in life who had developed so deep affection and love even before coming into contact with me. It appeared we had known each other for long time. In a rapturous tone he said, "O I can hardly say how happy I am today on having met you at last. Day and night I was restlessly longing for just a short meeting with you. At last the blessed moment has come and my wishes have been fulfilled. After knowing all your great sacrifices and suffering in prison, I had become your keen admirer and passionate devotee. It was the heroism of the great freedom fighters of 1914-15 like you which inspired insignificant patriot like me. All our revolution exploits are nothing compared to the astounding heroic deeds performed by you and your companions. Your own life and struggle for freedom and rights especially impressed me. Munshi Manna Singh perhaps told you with what passionate longing I was thirst*ing to meet you and talk to you. I should say that my inner attachment and admiration for you brought you back to Lahore prison after sixteen years. When I first sent a message to you within this prison, that I was anxious to meet you I received your divine command to keep the Sikh symbols (beard and hair). I am prepared to abide by your wishes. I am really ashamed and am prepared to tell you frankly that I removed my hair and beard under pressing circumstances. It was for the service of the country that my companions compelled me to give up the Sikh appearance and disguise myself as a sannyasin. So it is in association with the irreligious people that I was compelled to show disrespect to my religious symbols, but now I will certainly do whatever you wish me to do.

I was glad to see Bhagat Singh repentant and humble in his present attitude towards religious symbols. I was deeply impressed by his frank statement of facts, but I could not hesitate in expressing my inner feelings and I said:

"Brother Bhagat Singh ji, I am deeply touched by your love for me. I am also impressed by your spirit of service and patriotic zeal, but I must tell you dear brother, that your companions did not give you good advice. You seem to be seeking something very petty and you became a prey to the evil and mischievous suggestions of your companions. Compared to our times the period in which you participated in the freedom struggle, is a period of great awakening. You could fearlessly take part in the freedom struggle and serve your country and humanity as you wished. But you must be knowing that in our times (1914-15) few and rare souls felt inspired to dedicate their lives to the cause of freedom. In the Punjab only a few Sikhs who could be counted on finger-tips were politically awake, felt the patriotic fervor to fight for freedom. There was a great feeling and political opposition to the heroic Ghadar Leaders and patriots who had come from Canada and America. Every child in the Punjab was opposed to them. I will give you only one example of the moral courage of the great patriot of those days. Bhai Nidhan Singh of Chugga village was a great patriot and fighter for freedom, who inspired hundreds of Indians living in foreign countries to come to India and dedicate their lives to freedom struggle. He spent thousands of rupees from his own pocket for freedom struggle. And yet he did not disguise himself. He came openly by sea but the Government at once made elaborate arrangements to arrest him.

He reached India along with his companions without being detected. He could not be arrested. He came to the Punjab and threw himself heart and soul in the freedom struggle. His heroic deeds for the cause of freedom must be known to you. Warrants for his arrest had been issued, his photograph was widely publicized and a price was set on his head. There was an all out attempt to arrest him. He moved swiftly from one place to another organizing the freedom struggle. There was no sympathy and support for these freedom fighters in the public. The patriots depended mostly on Bhai Nidhan Singh for organization and inspiration. Of course in fearlessness there was none so daring as Kartar Singh Sarabha. One day Kartar Singh Sarabha feared that Bhai Nidhan Singh may be arrested. He was the key figure among the freedom fighters and it was necessary that he should not be arrested soon. Keeping only the political interest in view he suggested to Bhai Nidhan Singh that he should dye his beard and thus change his publicized appearance to some extent. Bhai Nidhan Singh boldly answered that he would never do such a thing and tarnish and disgrace his heroism in the freedom fight. "You can use me as best as you like with this appearance only and do not make any suggestions which would make me a coward" he said. His companions wanted him to fall a prey to their evil suggestions but his determination remained unshaken. For organizing the freedom struggle, he traveled twenty to thirty miles a day and sometimes fearlessly passed close by police posts. He performed such heroic deeds compared to which your plans were insignificant. He did not even agree to change the color of his beard, while you went to the extent of removing your hair and beard.

Bhagat Singh: Actually, I did not murder Saunders. I was of course accused of having murdered him. I considered it a great heroic deed and so took the credit for it. I confessed that I killed Saunders. Whether there was any benefit in it or not, I nevertheless got the credit for the whole deed. Even otherwise there was no escape for me.

I: The ideal of a true patriot is never to seek such petty joys of empty credits. For the joy of getting worldly praise you did not hesitate to fall from a higher spiritual ideal of becoming an apostate from Sikhism, nor did you ever repent over this fall from a much higher ideal. All that you have achieved by this wrong step is some trumpeting of your name and heroism by some papers. You gave up the Guru's personality for false glory and empty ambition. If you felt that you made a mistake you should have repented and come back to the Khalsa ideal by maintaining a Sikh-like appearance again. Why did you not do it?

Bhagat Singh: I might have kept the Sikh like appearance again, but then I would have lost the friendship and sympathy of my comrade B.K Dutt. Secondly; I would not have got so much publicity as I am getting now. It is true that my sacrifices are insignificant compared to the sacrifices of the freedom fighters of 1914-15. But after such astounding sacrifices they did not get any publicity or praise in the papers. The Sikh papers had very limited circulation. Even they did not reveal all facts of the heroic deeds of patriots like you, because their timid policy prevented them from writing anything frankly. It is the non-Sikh papers which publicized my name widely and it is through them I have acquired all the glory associated with my name. It is a fact that if I had maintained the Sikh appearance and if I had professed myself to be an orthodox Sikh and kept hair and beard the non-Sikh papers would not have written a word about me, just as they did not write a word about you and your companions. Even out of Sikh papers "The Khalsa Akhbar", Lahore, an urdu paper, dared to write something about you. I know it for certain that Hindu papers are always reluctant to write even a word in praise of Sikh patriots and freedom fighters. They do not like Sikhs being praised for anything. If I had kept hair and beard again and become a Sikh, they would have started belittling me instead of praising me. So I hesitated to keep hair and beard again.

I: On judging what you have said, my dear Bhagat Singh, your ideal of patriotism is very low and frippery. To make such a show of patriotism and service to the country for personal glory is cheap chauvinism and vain jingoism. The patriots of 1914-15 movement suffered and served the country keeping only the selfless service of the motherland in view. They did not have the slightest thought of such cheap publicity and never even in a dream had any ambition of personal glory. It is only in the company of petty minded and evil-motived people that your mind was misled into such vain thoughts of personal glory. The seeking of eminence through newspapers, and honor and glory through propaganda are all superficial things about which it is rightly said in the Guru-Granth Sahib:

Mad are those who trumpet a man's glory,
Shameless is he who accepts such fame,
He is like a rat who has tied a winnowing basket to his waist,
He now finds it impossible even to get into his hole:

On hearing this Bhagat Singh was deeply moved and said "The ideal of Sikhism is no doubt very high. The world in general hankers after empty glory only. I also drifted in the same passion for personal glory. But today I have realized that all these things are idle exhibition of vanity, conceit and self-glorification. I would have been fortunate if I had got the opportunity of living in close association with you for at least three or four months. If I had got this opportunity to live in your company for three or four months, I would have gained much and all my shortcomings would have disappeared. Now I will do whatever you ask me to do. You now want me to become a kesha-dhari Sikh. I now admit that I made great mistake. Even contrary to this healthy family tradition, I went against the Guru's instructions and showed irreverence to the Sikh symbols. But there is one more fact, and I would be committing a sin if I conceal it from you. I kept hair and beard merely because there was a long standing tradition in our family to do so. I am very proud to be called a Sikh. But the hard fact is that I was never religious at heart. You will excuse me if I tell you in quite plain terms that at heart I am an atheist. I still do not believe in God. All my companions know it. With all that I am willing to do anything you ask me to do. If you command me, I will keep hair and beard. Alas! if only I had got the opportunity to stay near you a little longer you could have changed my atheistic views.

I: I am very happy that you have revealed the truth of your inner state of mind and have not concealed what is really in your heart. It is absolutely useless to keep religious symbols like hair and beard while you are an atheist at heart, nor would I be proud of making you do such a thing. I am no more anxious about your coming back to Sikh forms, nor am I sorry that you do not have hair and beard. My only anxiety and wish now is that you should die with faith in God. You will definitely die on the scaffold. It would have been better if your atheism had disappeared before you faced death sentence. Even though you are an atheist remember one thing that you will not die, keep it engraved in your heart that you will not die. You will be born again. Your soul is immortal and ageless. It will never be destroyed. It will be born again and again. Know this for dead certain that you will not die. You will take human birth again. Look within and see what you are? Are you a soul, a spirit (Atmo) or just a lump of flesh and blood? Do you think that this self within you which speaks, understands, thinks, reflects on serving human*ity and expires after doing great deeds, is nothing beyond bones, blood and flesh and do you think it will end with the end of the body? No, never. Your real self will not be destroyed and you will never die".

On hearing these words which were uttered in an inspired mood (by the Grace of God), Bhagat Singh stood there mute and inwardly moved. For a moment he lost his physical consciousness and his mind soared high. Speechless, he bowed low, as if some unknown power had taken possession of him. For quite sometime he remained absorbed in deep silence. I shook him with my hands and helped him to stand. On his face there was a strange glow. He came nearer me and stretching his hands through the fence he tried to touch my feet. I held his hands in mine and said that only the Guru's feet are worth worship and not human feet.
I helped him to stand up and when he had regained control over himself he said "Your words have pierced my heart like an arrow, my disbelief and faithlessness have been terribly shaken, a mag*netic influence has changed my inner being. Deep down in my heart now I believe that I will not die and this belief will remain unshaken in my mind, speech and actions. I am that Spirit that death will not destroy. I will not die. After I give up my body I will be born again. Until my new birth my Atma will remain in everlasting glory. When I die on the scaffold I will die with a great spiritual joy. I was brave through sheer will power and asserted that I did not care for death. Within my heart was the deep hidden sorrow of complete extinction after death. Whenever this thought came to mind there was darkness before my mind. The thought of being reduced to nothing*ness after death created a painful void within my heart. Your words have brought a miraculous change in me. I can now see my future clearly in the light of new consciousness you have given me. The void created by the thoughts of extinction have disappeared. All doubts and delusions have been dispelled.

"I have gained much more strength. I will now die with great moral and spiritual courage. Your exalted life has imparted to me the elixir of spirituality and I feel its ennobling influence. I knew one thing about your life that you always say what you have experienced and your words and actions are always in unison. Not only am I convinced that I will not die, and that I am immortal Atma but I am convinced that there is God and you have had a glimpse of Him. So now you will be extremely pleased to learn that your dear Bhagat Singh is a believer in God and he will die with complete spiritual faith in Sikhism, and according to the Sikh terminology, I will face not death but ascension. The word ascension is a beautiful word and reveals that the soul will rise above the body and go beyond death. After leaving my body my spirit will ascend heaven-wards and will never die. It will be born again and will work for the ideal service of the Motherland and the nation. How fruitful has been this meeting with you.

After this significant end of our meeting we greeted each other and parted in blissful silence. It was quite dark now. I was taken to the office from where I was given unconditional release and sent out of the prison under cover of darkness. I boarded the train from Lahore railway station and came to Amritsar. From Amritsar railway station I walked to the Golden Temple. A Government servant had been given to me to help me in my journey. He carried my bag and bedding and attended to all my needs. Near the clock tower the servant waited with my luggage while I went inside and had a dip in the holy tank. It was 1 A.M. There I sat in peaceful solitude meditating on His Name. I enjoyed this solitude very much. After meditation, I had a mind to meet some friends. But on second thought I wanted to keep this pilgrimage to the Golden Temple, a secret. I knew that if I met some friends there will be unnecessary noise of jubilation about the release and a good deal of trumpeting through processions. I was tempted many times to go and meet Gyani Nahar Singh and Gyani Harbhajan Singh in the Malwai Bunga, but I overcame the temptation. Uptil day break I enjoyed the divine Kirtan of the Golden Temple. Then quietly I slipped out of Amritsar and resumed my journey to Ludhiana.
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firstly for bulle shah..
what da hell u wanted to prove by writing all dis stuff................
shaheed BHAGAT SINGH g Shaheed c...hai...te ren ge................
u have really hurted all of us.nd by sying araya smaji thing.........u have proved dat u wanna put sikhism down.............................................
BHAGAT SINGH g ........nthing can b said against him....................
 
Bai mein nahi man sakda ke inha vadda soorma te desh premi parmatama vich vishvash na karda hove. Jinne zulm sahe Shaheed Bhagat Singh ne te ohna de saathiyaan ne ous jail vich, ohna ne guru di aas tu bina ik pal vi nahi si sehna. Oh bhuk hatthal kiven karde bina ishvar de bharose???

Thanks SP, anyway!
 

dhana_jatt

~*~ NiMaNa ~*~
I respect BHagat singh alot... and i dont think he was atheist...
i think many ppl like bulleshah are jealous of other religions.. and they have only one mission to defame other religions... te mainu ohna diya posts padh ke gussa ni aaunda... balki taras aaunda eho je bandeya te... lahnat hai ehna te,... oh kehnde ne na ki " hum me dum nahi par hum kisi se kam nahi" ..
je ena hi jor tusi aapne religion bare kuch changa likhan ch lao ta ho sakda tohanu v sikha wargi izzat milje... te jive ah kehnda ki u sikhs dont respect others, mainu ik gal hi kaha ga ki sikh nkaum guru gobind ji ne bnayi hi ta c ki majlum te kamzor loka di rakheya kar sake... te u can see history jad v koi julam hoya desh te ya kisi kaum te sikh pehle san jina ne awaaz chuki...te india di freedom layi jine v saheehd hoye ohna jo majority jada sikha di c....
te jithe tak rahi duje relkigions di respect di gal ta usda sab to vada saboot guru granth saab ch hai... sare dharma di gurbani daraj hai is ch... Golden temple di pehli itt v guru ji ne ik muslim sant to rakhayi c.. te tere jahe bande sikh religion bare galat likh ke aapne religion di hi bezti karde ne... God bless u... rabb tere jahe bande nu akal dave... u need rest bro.. te duje religions te ungli chukan to pehla aapne religion bare socho.we sikhs respect our religion te others religions also... te ik kheyal dil cho kad de ki tere eho jahe posts to sikhi nu tu defame kar reha,... tere jahe bohat aaye bohat gaye,,, te ajj v sikhi chardi kalla ch hai...

'SiKh bY bIrTh..PrOuD bY cHoIcE'
 

full_taur

Member
Nice Post SP bai.. too good..

I respect BHagat singh alot... and i dont think he was atheist...
i think many ppl like bulleshah are jealous of other religions.. and they have only one mission to defame other religions... te mainu ohna diya posts padh ke gussa ni aaunda... balki taras aaunda eho je bandeya te... lahnat hai ehna te,... oh kehnde ne na ki " hum me dum nahi par hum kisi se kam nahi" ..
je ena hi jor tusi aapne religion bare kuch changa likhan ch lao ta ho sakda tohanu v sikha wargi izzat milje... te jive ah kehnda ki u sikhs dont respect others, mainu ik gal hi kaha ga ki sikh nkaum guru gobind ji ne bnayi hi ta c ki majlum te kamzor loka di rakheya kar sake... te u can see history jad v koi julam hoya desh te ya kisi kaum te sikh pehle san jina ne awaaz chuki...te india di freedom layi jine v saheehd hoye ohna jo majority jada sikha di c....
te jithe tak rahi duje relkigions di respect di gal ta usda sab to vada saboot guru granth saab ch hai... sare dharma di gurbani daraj hai is ch... Golden temple di pehli itt v guru ji ne ik muslim sant to rakhayi c.. te tere jahe bande sikh religion bare galat likh ke aapne religion di hi bezti karde ne... God bless u... rabb tere jahe bande nu akal dave... u need rest bro.. te duje religions te ungli chukan to pehla aapne religion bare socho.we sikhs respect our religion te others religions also... te ik kheyal dil cho kad de ki tere eho jahe posts to sikhi nu tu defame kar reha,... tere jahe bohat aaye bohat gaye,,, te ajj v sikhi chardi kalla ch hai...

'SiKh bY bIrTh..PrOuD bY cHoIcE'

Dhanna veer too good yaar. heehe i liked this one..

" hum me dum nahi par hum kisi se kam nahi" :y:y:y

Now wait for next new post of Mr Bulle shah... I'm sure you guys again will be on ball and again Mr Bulle shah will run for cover..

One more thing, tilld ate the only original pic of B hagat singh is in the Autobiography of Bhai Randhir Singh, so if Bhai Sahib was that bugged at Bhagat SIngh, why would he include a pic and special chapter in his autobiography...

All I can say is that Bhagat Singh is my role model and i respect & like him a lot and BEING A SIKH is my life and the SIKHI values & SIKHI teachings are my way of LIFE.....
 

Ramta

Member

That the neo- Sikh Khalistani's have begin to appropriate his name is nothing new to me - many books and gurudwaras are showing his paintings and pictures as a 'keshdhari' Sikh whilst in jail. Some have even coined a story that whilst in jail he reverted from his atheistic beleifs and became a 'true beleiver'

The facts are otherwise:

(1) His own letters and writings reflect his non beleif in God
(2) His family who visited him in jail attest that he did not become a keshdhari on his martyrdom.
(3) So do the eyewitnessess in jail

It is impossible to beleive that such a heroic and ideological man , willing to lay down his life for his principles (even if we dont agree with all of them) would at the last instant turn back on those very beleifs. Even is he was a socialist/communist does it make his sacrifice any less ?

After all, most of the violent struggle against the British was left leaning and groups like the RSS , the Akalis et all did little for the independence struggle in comparison. But the pathetic Neo-Khalistani believes a painted picture of a keshdhari Bhagat Singh adds up to more than the writings of the man himself, his colleagues in jail, the wardens, his own family ?

Why can't one respect the man for who he was -whether or not he was a Sikh, and honour the selfless sacrifice of a 23 year old without mocking his beleifs by sticking a pagri on his head to satisfy my ones ego ?


Check-out Bhagat Singh's photo on this website supported by Shahid Bhagat Singh Research Committee, Ludhiana...
http://www.shahidbhagatsingh.org/images/shaheedbhagat2.jpg or http://pd.cpim.org/2006/0319/03192006_surjeet.htm

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Now check this one out on one of our Neo-Sikh-Akali website...
http://www.sikh-history.com/sikhhist/personalities/bhagat.html

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Isn't this laughable? Planting a beard on bhagat singh ? Pretty shoddy job too...
Bhai Randhir Singh probably wasn't a good painter I see...



Thanks,

PS : Read more ... The Red Pamphlet & Peoples republic



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dhana_jatt

~*~ NiMaNa ~*~
tu prove ki karna chahuna ..... eve loka nu vekh vekh sari jana... je tenu nahi believe rabb te ta chup karke ghare beth ... eve loka da sir kiyu khayi jana... stop making threads,,, te copy paste karna bohat saukha hai... ah ta jawaka aale kam ne jo tu kar reha... stop posting such threads...
 
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