Punjab riots after Vienna killing

Punjab riots after Vienna killing

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Riots have broken out across the Indian state of Punjab after a a preacher from an Indian sect was killed by a rival Sikh group in Austria.
Within hours of the incident in Vienna, thousands of Sikhs took to the streets, clashing with police and setting fire to buildings, vehicles and a train.
At least one man was killed when the security forces opened fire on crowds near the city of Jalandhar, police say.
The army has marched through the city, where a curfew is in force.
However thousands of protesters carrying swords, steel rods and sticks defied the curfew on Monday. Major highways were blocked by bonfires of tyres and sticks. Trains have been attacked in several places. Police said they had fired at rioting mobs in Jalandhar, after coming under attack. At least four people were wounded. A man was shot dead as police dispersed a crowd in the nearby town of Lambran. Police say they have arrested six people for arson.
In the Sikh holy city of Amritsar, police fired tear gas after protesters burnt dozens of buses. The Delhi-Lahore bus has been stopped near the town of Ludhiana as a precautionary measure. Violent demonstrations have also been reported in the towns of Patiala, Ferozepur, Bathinda and Nawanshahr.

Appeal for calm
Chief Minister of Punjab Prakash Singh Badal has called an all-party meeting on Tuesday and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has appealed for calm.
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Most of the disturbances occurred in or near Jalandhar

"I am deeply distressed by the outbreak of violence in Punjab following certain incidents in Vienna, Austria," Mr Singh said in a statement
"Whatever the provocation, it is important to maintain peace and harmony among different sections of the people." The disturbances were triggered by death of preacher Sant Rama Nand during a religious ceremony in Vienna on Sunday. He was attacked by six men armed with knives and a pistol and succumbed to his wounds in hospital early on Monday. Another preacher, Sant Nirajnan Dass, who was among 15 other people injured, is said to be stable. Both the preachers were from a breakaway Sikh sect which has a large following in parts of Punjab and had travelled to Vienna to conduct a special service. The BBC's Sanjoy Majumder, in Delhi, says several Sikh groups had apparently opposed his presence and threatened violence.​
 

prithvi.k

on off on off......
UPDATE---
In Jalandhar, passengers were asked to alight before four bogies of the Jammu-Kanyakumari Himsagar Express were set on fire. In Phagwara, a mob forced the driver of the Sonepur Jammu Express out by placing a sword at his temple before setting fire to the engine, which was hurriedly detached from the train to prevent the fire from spreading to the coaches.

In Vienna, police spokesman Michael Takacs said, “The attack had clearly been planned.” At least 16 people were injured, some of them seriously, in the attack.

What happened on Mondayay

Deputy leader of Jalandhar-based Dera SachKhand Ballan succumbed to injuries on Monday morning

Head of the sect Sant Niranjan Dass, 68, is recuperating

Massive and violent protests in Punjab, Haryana and Jammu. Worst hit are Jalandhar, Phagwara and Hoshiarpur

2 dead in police firing

Army called out in Phagwara as clashes continued despite curfew and deployment of BSF

Several trains cancelled

Bharti Wal-Mart cancels opening of cash-and-carry store in Amritsar


About Dera Sachkhand

It was founded by followers of Guru Ravi Dass, some of whose hymns are incorporated in the Guru Granth Sahib, the holy book of Sikhs. It has a wide following among Dalits, particularly in Doaba region of Punjab.


Why the attack

Dera SachKhand has a wide following among Dalits and poor people who refer to founder Ravi Dass as a Guru (teacher). This is resented by upper caste Sikhs (lolzzz) who insist Ravi Dass is only a Bhagat (devotee).



‘Sikhs resent growing popularity of deras’
Posted On Tuesday, May 26, 2009 at 02:03:39 AM


New Delhi: The murderous attack in Vienna on Sant Ramanand leading to violent incidents in Punjab, has the Congress worried.

The Dera has a large following among Dalits, known as Ramdasiya Sikhs in the Doaba region comprising Jalandhar, Hoshiarpur, Ferozepur, Amritsar and Moga. They helped the party win the Hoshiarpur (SC) and the Jalandhar (SC) Lok Sabha seats.

Hoshiarpur MP Santosh Choudhury said, “I was to visit the Dera after my victory to pay my respects to Sant Niranjan Dass and Sant Ramanand. I put off my trip after hearing that both were abroad. Then I heard that one of them has been killed.” She alleged that other Sikhs harass the Dera. “I was told Sikhs were not allowing them to carry the holy Granth Sahib for Dera meetings.

The Sikhs, who back the Akali Dal, do not like the growing popularity of the deras. The sants have been preaching Sant Ravi Dass’s teaching, which appeal to a wider section of people. There are a number of deras in Punjab, but none like Dera Sachkhand.” She pointed out that in Vienna, the Dera’s place of worship is adjacent to a gurudwara.

Jalandhar MP Mohinder Kay Pee said, “I am also devoted to the Dera. I am awaiting a full statement from the MEA on the cause of the Dera leader’s death.”

The Congress has accused the Punjab government of mishandling the protests.

Terming the situation as ‘not quite normal’, Home Minister P Chidambaram said, “We were informed that curfew was imposed in Jalandhar and some other places, but our information is that it was not enforced strictly. There are TV visuals of people moving around in Jalandhar, etc.”


- mumbai mirror
 

prithvi.k

on off on off......
well what will happen by burning trains,buses shops... crore's of property damaged in a day.. who will pay ? we only have to pay,no one else..
And the main thing , these orthodox peoples still beleive in lower/higher caste... and goes agaisnt saint like ravidas.. strange first time i come to know this... then they should also ignore Kabir g , Saint Trilochan , Saint Ravidass ,maharshtara saints ---- Saint Tukaram , Saint Namdev , & many other soul which reached god .

dont be fools be one and love others.. this preaching only u get from pious saints.. Santtoh keh peehche granth tah ved chalteh hai...Sant,mahatmah tah guruah da ka koe dharam nahi hunda..in other word..unkeh nindah maat karoh...unseh jitnah hoe utnah sikho....learn from them az they are for all.
 

*Sippu*

*FrOzEn TeARs*
yo india zyada raula eh
vienna nahi ehna
but sharm vali gal eh
chain naal reh nahi sakde huh
 

prithvi.k

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Babbar Khalsa chief's mail to be probed
27 May 2009, 0124 hrs IST ,Times

AMRITSAR: What made Wadhawa Singh Babbar, a Sikh hardliner and chief of terrorist outfit Babbar Khalsa International, to issue a peace appeal?
Wadhawa is one of the 20 fugitives demanded by India from Pakistan.
(these khalistan force is nothing but a terrorist group sponsered by pakistan..so to break punjab from india..haha their father/messenger also cant do this.. pokestan - poke means pig dish so pokestan)

One of India’s most-wanted terrorist, Wadhawa, in an e-mail sent to reporters on Tuesday had claimed that the Sikh panth had no role in the attack on Dera Sachkhand’s religious heads in Vienna and blamed Indian agencies for it to create wedge between the Sikhs and Dera Sachkhand followers.

Wadhawa, believed to be in Pakistan, had never issued a similar appeal even during the clashes between various Sikh outfits and followers of Dera Sacha Sauda. SSP Kunwar Vijay Partap Singh said cops would probe the origin of mail before ascertaining its veracity.

The appeal was issued late on Monday, a critical time when most of the cities of Punjab were taken on ransom by followers of the sect, who were expressing resentment following the attack on Sant Niranjan Das, chief of Dera Sachkhand, Ballan, and his deputy Sant Ramanand at Vienna.

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It is unfortunate that even after settling in countries and places like Vienna, ppl cannot get caste system(higher/lower) out of the mind.....well below r some interesting lines from a blog -

• A fight kicked off between Sikhs in Vienna, Austria, resulted in Sikhs across Punjab getting angry and taking to riots. It seems people in India don’t need excuses to go on a rioting spree. This case looks like another one of those where Jat Sikhs (a group my family unfortunately belongs to) swagger around telling everyone who is a proper Sikh and who isn’t, and who is a fake Sikh etc. I’m not surprised that lower-caste Sikhs in Punjab are angry. But street riots? Reports in newspapers say these riots have put caste in the spotlight.

• Casteism is a matter of grave concern which is affecting Sikhism today. Isn’t this the outcomes of our own short-sightedness in comprehending the bigger meaning of Sikhism? When one says that the ‘followers of Ravidass sect are not Sikhs in any way’ what do they intend to convey. Don’t these people follow the same Guru Granth Sahib, don’t they follow the same basic tenets of Sikhism which the other so-called ‘Gursikhs’ follow? If you read history, you’ll realise that this sect has been formed as a result of deeply ingrained casteism in Sikhism, something which Guru Gobind Singh had outrightly condemned and banished in the learnings of Sikhism.Secondly, the main issue under contention is that who gave those Sikhs the right to use weapons inside a religious place.Sikhism is much greater than all this.
 

*Sippu*

*FrOzEn TeARs*
Babbar Khalsa chief's mail to be probed
27 May 2009, 0124 hrs IST ,Times

AMRITSAR: What made Wadhawa Singh Babbar, a Sikh hardliner and chief of terrorist outfit Babbar Khalsa International, to issue a peace appeal?
Wadhawa is one of the 20 fugitives demanded by India from Pakistan.
(these khalistan force is nothing but a terrorist group sponsered by pakistan..so to break punjab from india..haha their father/messenger also cant do this.. pokestan - poke means pig dish so pokestan)

One of India’s most-wanted terrorist, Wadhawa, in an e-mail sent to reporters on Tuesday had claimed that the Sikh panth had no role in the attack on Dera Sachkhand’s religious heads in Vienna and blamed Indian agencies for it to create wedge between the Sikhs and Dera Sachkhand followers.

Wadhawa, believed to be in Pakistan, had never issued a similar appeal even during the clashes between various Sikh outfits and followers of Dera Sacha Sauda. SSP Kunwar Vijay Partap Singh said cops would probe the origin of mail before ascertaining its veracity.

The appeal was issued late on Monday, a critical time when most of the cities of Punjab were taken on ransom by followers of the sect, who were expressing resentment following the attack on Sant Niranjan Das, chief of Dera Sachkhand, Ballan, and his deputy Sant Ramanand at Vienna.

________________________
It is unfortunate that even after settling in countries and places like Vienna, ppl cannot get caste system(higher/lower) out of the mind.....well below r some interesting lines from a blog -

• A fight kicked off between Sikhs in Vienna, Austria, resulted in Sikhs across Punjab getting angry and taking to riots. It seems people in India don’t need excuses to go on a rioting spree. This case looks like another one of those where Jat Sikhs (a group my family unfortunately belongs to) swagger around telling everyone who is a proper Sikh and who isn’t, and who is a fake Sikh etc. I’m not surprised that lower-caste Sikhs in Punjab are angry. But street riots? Reports in newspapers say these riots have put caste in the spotlight.

• Casteism is a matter of grave concern which is affecting Sikhism today. Isn’t this the outcomes of our own short-sightedness in comprehending the bigger meaning of Sikhism? When one says that the ‘followers of Ravidass sect are not Sikhs in any way’ what do they intend to convey. Don’t these people follow the same Guru Granth Sahib, don’t they follow the same basic tenets of Sikhism which the other so-called ‘Gursikhs’ follow? If you read history, you’ll realise that this sect has been formed as a result of deeply ingrained casteism in Sikhism, something which Guru Gobind Singh had outrightly condemned and banished in the learnings of Sikhism.Secondly, the main issue under contention is that who gave those Sikhs the right to use weapons inside a religious place.Sikhism is much greater than all this.
mein ve hune news paper ch pareya ke oh kehnde asi sikh nahi haan

fir ohna ne shiri guru granth shaib ji kyun ne gurdware ch rakhe ??
they dont even know wat r they talking about huh
 

prithvi.k

on off on off......
paper dekh keh padoh..as isda political issue bana yeah ja sakda hai...wrong khabrah dekh keh specially some small newspaper in punjab...

btw they not allowed to go in gurudwara,agar ah bhi gaye toh so called high sikh lol ignored them lower cast like this mentallity they have(if so they call themseleves high then dont allowed anyone to enter in golden temple too,lets see then)...because of this they started new preaching ravidaseyeh(after saint ravidas).. all this everyone knows bar bar ki bolah..uthe sarah lekeyah hai padh loh bai... aur inahde koe alag preaching nahi ah... even their gurudwara granth sahib is kept along with sant ravidas and they worship... places like hoshiarpur,jalandhar,Shri Guru Ravi Dass Gurdwara-Phagwara etc are examples... sach khand gurudwara near jalandhar i think, where kabir g tah ravidass maharaj de vani da prachar hundah,uthe bhi granth nuh he mande ah along with these saints.. Bada bahrah gurudwara of ravidas @ Kanchi,Banaras uthe bhi granth sahib da bhi prachar hundah...
As i said above," Santtoh keh peehche granth tah ved chalteh hai." well joh sant mareyah viennach ohde photo meh dekhe newspaperch,even he is sikh(turban bandhe hue eh tah beard.. must better then those high sikh who cuts their hair)..... ah sab maarnah taliban wargehnuh suit kerda,not genuine like us
 

jatt funjabi

gaah pau mehkma
yaar mai ta aeda suneya va k Eh jehra dere aala c ehne aeda keha k eh granth(guru granth sahib ji) sada granth nyi hai te asi aapna granth aap tyaar krage , bass aahi gall pishey ehnu warning v ditti sikhan ne k niraadar na kar te sikhan de virudh na bol , bass fer ki eh baaz ni aaya aapniya harkta to te udaa ta singha ne.

te jehre ah dalit bhai ne ehna nu ta bass mauka chaida hungaama krn da, bass eh aeve bhurrak pye te krn lagg pye khoon khraaba, bhlaa daso murkho ki mileya tuhanu aena khoon khraaba kar k ? Kaun ni mann da Bhagat Ravidas ji nu , ohna di baani guru granth sahib vch darj hai , je asi gurugranth sahib ji nu matha tekde haan ta ehda matlab aa k aapa jihna jihna guruya,peera, bhagta di baani darz hai guru granth sahib vich asin ohna saareya nu matha tekde aa.
eh dalit bhraa Bhagat ravidas ji nu aapna guru smjhde ne k bass sada guru hai.
 
yaar mai ta aeda suneya va k Eh jehra dere aala c ehne aeda keha k eh granth(guru granth sahib ji) sada granth nyi hai te asi aapna granth aap tyaar krage , bass aahi gall pishey ehnu warning v ditti sikhan ne k niraadar na kar te sikhan de virudh na bol , bass fer ki eh baaz ni aaya aapniya harkta to te udaa ta singha ne.

te jehre ah dalit bhai ne ehna nu ta bass mauka chaida hungaama krn da, bass eh aeve bhurrak pye te krn lagg pye khoon khraaba, bhlaa daso murkho ki mileya tuhanu aena khoon khraaba kar k ? Kaun ni mann da Bhagat Ravidas ji nu , ohna di baani guru granth sahib vch darj hai , je asi gurugranth sahib ji nu matha tekde haan ta ehda matlab aa k aapa jihna jihna guruya,peera, bhagta di baani darz hai guru granth sahib vich asin ohna saareya nu matha tekde aa.
eh dalit bhraa Bhagat ravidas ji nu aapna guru smjhde ne k bass sada guru hai.

ehna vich sirf dalit hi nahi but other sikhs r also included...jehna nu upper caste v keh lende aa...........and baki rahi khoon khraba...no one is killed..sirf nuksaan kita aa ovi gov't da..hila ke rakhti gov't puri...hun next time edan da koi step chukan ton pehlan oh hazar baar sochega (Criminals)....edan na karo te kalun koi v uth ke kise nu v maar sakda....aaye wadde fesla karan wale kehnu ki manana chaida te kehnu ki........ :smirk
 

Royal_Punjaban

»»K@mli!««
loka ne ta danga fasaad karke aapna gussa show karta,,,,,te suffer kinu karna paya aam aadmi nu.....gharo bahaar jaana okha hoya paaya papera da ko hisaab kitaab nai a,,,,,jo jithe a othe e fasiya reh gaya hoya,,,,ki milda baakiya nu dukhi karke...aakihr ch nuksaan ta aapna e hunda,,,,main ta aj tak eda hundiya nai dekhiya ....dis is first tym kerfew nd all dat,,,,sachi nazar lag gai a punjab nu..babaji mehr karo....sohne des punjab te.:pr
 

jatt funjabi

gaah pau mehkma
ehna vich sirf dalit hi nahi but other sikhs r also included...jehna nu upper caste v keh lende aa...........and baki rahi khoon khraba...no one is killed..sirf nuksaan kita aa ovi gov't da..hila ke rakhti gov't puri...hun next time edan da koi step chukan ton pehlan oh hazar baar sochega (Criminals)....edan na karo te kalun koi v uth ke kise nu v maar sakda....aaye wadde fesla karan wale kehnu ki manana chaida te kehnu ki........ :smirk


hahaha pehla ta mainu teri gall padh k haassa aunda aa , khoon khraaba hoyea,ethe tenu amrika baithi nu sabh pta lagg reha jehrey kol vassde ne ohna nu push k dekh kive hath ch daanga chakki baithe ne, kinniya gaddiyaa fookiya te kinne ghar torrey , naale tu keha va k hajaar vaar sochan ge eh krn to pehla smaa k oh dere aala te hor lok guru granth sahib ji da niraadar krn vele and sikhan de virudh bolan vele hajaar vaar sochange. ah yamuna nagar clg nu agg laati ehna ne , oh clg diyaa saariya buses fooktiya te principal kutteya ki eh akhbar ch aaya ? eh sade akhan saahmne hoya sabh kujh, dass ehna da ki kasoor aa jihna da nuksan hoyea , sikhan ne hamla ta kita ohne niraadr kita te sikhan de virudh boht kujh boleya. aeve kise nihathe te vaar ni karde sikh.
 

*Sippu*

*FrOzEn TeARs*
eh sahi gal eh .. jf ne jo keha c and baba kehnda c .. jo bole so nihaal jai shiri ravi das


jo bole so nihaal da sat shiri akaal da kuj hor he bana dita
punjab de sare dere band karvone chahihde ne
eh babe he ne jo khilaara paunde ne ..
 

jatt funjabi

gaah pau mehkma
ehi ni hor v boht kujh boleya sikhan de khilaaf , mai ta kehna dhann ne yaar oh singh jehrey vlait ch rehnde hoye v aeda vadda kamm karta te ethe punjab ch ah sache saude jhoothe saude aala ni chakkeya geya
 

Royal_Punjaban

»»K@mli!««
kine maare din a gae a....babe jithe satgur nu paan da rah dasde si,,,,aj ohi dange fasaad da reason ban chuke ne.....ki banu duniya da..........:n
 

..::sHiNdA::..

:.-=šHïNda=-.:™
At present everything is fine in jalandhar. . . .
but vich -2 kuch rumours uthde a.. te fir sari market band ho jandi a...Kal v ahi hoyea jad ki curfeww release shami 6 vaje tak si.. but shops 2 vaje hi band ho gaiya ,kise ne keh dita di curfew release da time ghat kar dita hai....
Ajj fir curfew vich 6 am to 6pm tak dhil hai. . . (29 May)
 
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