$$ Something Very Strange $$

Sat Sri Akal Dosto,

I have something strange with me that i would like to discuss with all of you. This happened few years back, I was having a gursikh friend, os ne amrit sakhya hoya c, but fir v oho Non-Veg c, Mai ek vaar os nu puch hi lya k tu Amrit chakh k v meat-maas kyo khanda hai, Os da jawaab c k Dasam guru jado Junf de vele Jungle vich rehndey c, ta oho v Ehi sub khandey c (Sry, dont want to hurt anyone's feelings) But i really felt bad after hearing his words.. K tusi log sochdey ho k es tarha di thinking theek hai??? Mai ta es cheez de sakht khilaaf ha dosto...

singh saab es tarah diya discussions bahut ho chukkiya pehla aithe, i will try finding the links so u can read opinions abt it......
But as far as i understand gurbani and sikhism, we are not allowed to eat meat. People do say ki kithe likheya baani ch, and they give all these random excuses for it ki guru saab jadd jungla ch hunde si ladhayiaa vele ta o meat khande si, but In gurbani and In Bhai Gurdas ji's vaara its written specifically that o sikh should not be eating meat. I am not against meat-eaters either, i mean its their personal choice of living they make, but yeah amrit shak ke apne aap nu gursikh keh he sikhi de sidhaanta te ungli nahi uthauni chaidi ........

Singh ji,

I agree with you, i would've felt pretty upset if that person had said that to me. I think the whole point of being a gursikh is that you follow a number of strict principles- the same principles that our Gurus lived in accordance with. And it does not say anywhere in the Guru Granth Sahib that the Gurus ate meat or that Sikhs should be allowed to eat meat. I think its a personal choice. I am a vegetarian but i am not gursikh. A lot of Sikhs do eat meat and thats fine. But if your Gursikh then you shouldnt be eating meat. It means you are following orthodox principles and under those principles meat is not allowed for Gursikhs.

And i am sorry but i do not believe that Guru ji ate meat in the jungle. this is the first time i have heard such a thing and i simply dont buy it.

Fullu agreed with PInko nd Angel ji!!

Dosto, the same thing i told to my friend at that time.. well.. Mai v es tarha de loka naal dosti na rakhna hi changa samajhda ha, U know.. sub di apni apni soch hai dosto.. Tusi kisi nu force nai kar sakdey aj de time vich.. but dusri taraf asi galat hundey hoye v nai dekh sakdey... J sikh kom ek jut ho k, ek Mutthi ban k ek saath rahey ya sochey, ta eh duniya vich aj saadi hi sardaari hundi.. Anyways.. thanks dosto, tuhadey vichaara de lai. Rub raakha.. & Most Important.. Aj Dasam pita da janamdivas hai, Tuhaanu sub nu Gurupurab diya vadhaaiya.

singhizking said:

Dosto, the same thing i told to my friend at that time.. well.. Mai v es tarha de loka naal dosti na rakhna hi changa samajhda ha, U know.. sub di apni apni soch hai dosto.. Tusi kisi nu force nai kar sakdey aj de time vich.. but dusri taraf asi galat hundey hoye v nai dekh sakdey... J sikh kom ek jut ho k, ek Mutthi ban k ek saath rahey ya sochey, ta eh duniya vich aj saadi hi sardaari hundi.. Anyways.. thanks dosto, tuhadey vichaara de lai. Rub raakha.. & Most Important.. Aj Dasam pita da janamdivas hai, Tuhaanu sub nu Gurupurab diya vadhaaiya.

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tohanu vi lakh lakh vadiyan hove ji, Waheguru ji ka khalsa, Waheguru ji k fateh

pink puma said:

tohanu vi lakh lakh vadiyan hove ji, Waheguru ji ka khalsa, Waheguru ji k fateh

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please check this link
i hope it answers to some of the wuestions put on by some people as to what Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji says on eating meat, why Guru Ji used to hunt and some modern research showing the dangers of eating meat and hence suggesting that being vegetarian is a wise decision.
http://panthkhalsa.org/rahit/rahit_kuthha.php
http://panthkhalsa.org/rahit/rahit_hunt.php
http://panthkhalsa.org/rahit/rahit_meat.php

jinne ku mannu pata hai, a Gursikh is allowed to meat (chatka) only when there is no other source of energy or food available, to survive on has to eat something and if veg is not available only then he/she can eat non-veg...

vaise te main kineyaa kolon suneya ki koi apna Gatra te Kirpan utaar ke non-veg khaande ne...

if i'm wrong, thn please correct me...

--CooLGuY-- said:

jinne ku mannu pata hai, a Gursikh is allowed to meat (chatka) only when there is no other source of energy or food available, to survive on has to eat something and if veg is not available only then he/she can eat non-veg...

vaise te main kineyaa kolon suneya ki koi apna Gatra te Kirpan utaar ke non-veg khaande ne...

if i'm wrong, thn please correct me...

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I think u r correct Sp as far as my knowledge goes..

sp kindly read the link i have posted above. mainu lagda ke ohde ch poori explanation ditti aa ke meat allowed hai ke nahi.
te baaki jiddan janab tusi kehnde ho ke meat khana allowed hai when nothin else is available to eat. sab to pehla taan main bayee main teri es gall naal sehmat hi ni haiga. te baaki je mittra ehe mann vi leya jaave ke allowed aa taan ajjkal de jamaane ch taan eho jeha mauka kade aa hi ni sakda ke bande nu khaan nu non-veg mil je te kuchh vi veggie na mille. so simple we can say that in todays world, we are not supposed to eat meat.

jatt tere pichhe badnaam said:

sp kindly read the link i have posted above. mainu lagda ke ohde ch poori explanation ditti aa ke meat allowed hai ke nahi.
te baaki jiddan janab tusi kehnde ho ke meat khana allowed hai when nothin else is available to eat. sab to pehla taan main bayee main teri es gall naal sehmat hi ni haiga. te baaki je mittra ehe mann vi leya jaave ke allowed aa taan ajjkal de jamaane ch taan eho jeha mauka kade aa hi ni sakda ke bande nu khaan nu non-veg mil je te kuchh vi veggie na mille. so simple we can say that in todays world, we are not supposed to eat meat.

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Bahut accha lagga, inney saarey views padh ke. But mai huney v confused hi ha..

singhizking said:

Bahut accha lagga, inney saarey views padh ke. But mai huney v confused hi ha..

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Yes buddy u r right.....but yar its all personal thinking...

"Waheguru ji ka khalsa, Waheguru ji k fateh "
bolo te meat khana chado.............
confusion de koi gal he nahi aa yaar.........
be away from those who tell u something wrong
jeethe tak friendship the gal hai, it all upto u.....
u cant leave anyone just cause he or she eat or drinks somethings u dont do.....

Waheguru ji ka khalsa, Waheguru ji k fateh

VEERJI.
APANAI 10TH GURU GOBIND SINGH JI NAI JUNGALA DAI WICH SHIKAR KITAI SIGAI ,IS GAAL NU AAPANO SUCH MANANA PAOGA.

PER JO GAAL SAADAI DUJAI VEER NAI AAPJI NO KAHI KI "GURU GOBIND SINGH JI" NI MAAS OR KUTHA JUNGLA DAI VICH SAMAY GUJARDAI HOYAI SHIKAR KAR KAI KHAADA , AAHA GAAL SARAA SAR GALAT HAI KYONKI

1) "GURU GOBIND SINGH JI" APNAI "GURU" HANN, AUR AAPA SARAI GURU DA MATLAB JANDAI HI AA. YAA FIR OOH BHI SAMJHAN DI LODH HAIGI.(PER APNAI DUSRAI VEER DI NAJAR DAI VICH GURU DA MATLAB KUCH HOOR BHI HO SAKDA JI)

2)KOI BHI GURU YA BHAGWAN KISAI BHI "JEE YA JANWAR " DI HATYA , SHIKAR , MRATU ETC NAHI KARDAI NAI , OH TAAH APNAI JIWAN DE VICH OHNA DA UTDHAR KARDAI NAI(OHNA DA JIWAN SAFAL KARDAI NAI JISDA MATLAB HAI KI OHNA DAI PAAPA DI SAJA TOH OHNA NO MUKT KARDAI NAI)

3)AAP JI AAH BHI JAANDAI HO KI "GURU" DA MATLAB HUNDA HAI KI JO VEER SAB GUNNA DAI WHICH SAMPURN HOYAI.RABB DA DUJA ROOP.

4)VEER JI BABA JI NAI KADAI BHI NAHI KAHYA HAIGA KI AAPA NU KUTHA YA HALAAL KRKAI KHANA HAI.


VEER JI JHATKA YA KUTHA KHAAN DI SAARI PRATHA ANGREJA DWARA SHURU KARAI GAYI SI GI KYONKI OHNA NU IS DESH DAI UPER RAAJ KARNA SIGA AUR OHNA NAI JAAD SIKH KOOM DA ITIHAS PADYA TAAH OHNA DIYA AKHAA KHULIYA DIYA KHULIYA REHGAYIYA SI KI"SIKH" OH SHAKSIYAT HAGI
1) JO VINA SIRR DAI BHI LAD SAKDAI HUN(MATLAB AMAR),
2) JO SAWALAKH DAI NAAL KALAAI HE LADH LAINDAI HUN(MATLAB POWER)
3) JO HAMAISHA SAARI KOOMA DA SAATH DINDAI HUN(MATLAB IZAT)
4) JINA NU WADAI WADAI ATAK DARYA BHI EK "ARDAS" TEH RAAH DAI DINDAI HUN(MATLAB PAATH DI SHAKTI)
NU AAPA KIMAI HARAMA GAI.
IS KARKAI OHNA NAI KUCH SIKH BANDYA NO LALACH DAI KAI AAPNI WAAL RALAYA TAI APNI "BANIYA" DAI WICH SHAID SHAD KARWAI, BADAI BADAI LOUGA TOH GALAT PRACHAR KARAYA TAKKI SIKH DI SHAKTI " 11TH GURU GURU GRANTH SAHEB JI (SARV SHAKTIMAN) " DI SHAKTI KHAT HO JAYAI.
IS DAI WICH ANGREJ KHUJH HAADH TAK SAFAL BHI HO GAYAI SIGAI. KUCH BANI SAHEB JI NO GURU GRANTH SAHEB JI DAI WHICHO TOAD MAROAD DITA GAYA SI. JISDAI KAARAN AAPNI SIKHI KHANDIT HO GAYI.PER JINA NAI BHI IS KAAM NO ANJAAM DITA OHNA DA TAI BURA HI HOYA AUR OHNA NU BANI DAI NAAL CHAID CHAAD KARAN DI SAJAA BHI AAPAI BHAGWAN JI NAI DITI , JISDA FAAL SWAROOP OH LOOG APANAI MUKH RAHI KUCH BOOL HI NAHI SAKDAI SUN(MATLAB JABAN NAI KAAM KARNA BAND KARTA SI), OHNA NAI AKHAR SAMAY WHICH RUB KOLOO LIKH KAI MAFI MANGI SE TEH KEHA SI KI

" KOI BHI BANDA BANI DAI NAAL CHAID CHAD NA KARYO YA BANI DA GALAT ARTH NA KADYO NAHI TAH US DA HAAL BHI SADAI JHAIJA HOUGA"

IS TOH HUN AAP JI NO SAMAJ JANA CHAIDA HAIGA KI JO LOG AAPJI NU KEHNDAI NAI KI GURU JI NAI MAAS KHADA EH KISDA KAAM HAI.PER HUN ANGREJ CHALAI GAYAI HUN AUR KUCH ANDRUNI SHAKTI JO KI SIKHI NO WADHA DA HOYA NAHI DEKH SAKDIYA HUN IS TARAH DAI KAAM KAR RAHIYA HAAN. IS LAI AAPA WADH TOH WAADH LOUKA NU DASO KI SANU MAAS YA KUTHA YA CHATKA NAI KHANA CHAIDA HAI.

VEER JI AAP SAB MERAI TOH JAYADA GYAN WANE HO, PER MAI AAP SAB DAI AGAI BAINTI KARNA CHAUNGA KI AAJ BHI AMRIT CHAKAN DAI WAILAI KEHA JANDA HAI KI KUTHA NAHI KHANA PER JHATKA KHAA SAKDAI HO. EHH SAB GALAT HAI EHNA SAB CHIJA NU BADH TOH BADH ROKO TAKI SAHI SIKHI DI SALAH DAIO.

TAI KOI SIKH ITIHASAK PRAKASHAK JO AIH GALAT MAND GHADAND SAKHIYA YA AFWAHA SHAAP DAI HAAN ,IS DA PRAKASHAN BAAND KARDO JI JIS KARAN SIKHI APANA RAAH TOH NA BHATKAI.


AUR HAMAISHA " GURU MAANYO GRANTH (GURU GRANTH SAHEB JI) "

Waheguru ji ka khalsa, Waheguru ji k fateh

MOKKA MILYA TAK HOR BHI GALA KARANGAI JI
KOI GALTI HOYAI TAH ANJAN BACHA SAMAJ KAI MAAF KARNA JI.

Waheguru ji ka khalsa, Waheguru ji k fateh

VEERJI.
APANAI 10TH GURU GOBIND SINGH JI NAI JUNGALA DAI WICH SHIKAR KITAI SIGAI ,IS GAAL NU AAPANO SUCH MANANA PAOGA.

PER JO GAAL SAADAI DUJAI VEER NAI AAPJI NO KAHI KI "GURU GOBIND SINGH JI" NI MAAS OR KUTHA JUNGLA DAI VICH SAMAY GUJARDAI HOYAI SHIKAR KAR KAI KHAADA , AAHA GAAL SARAA SAR GALAT HAI KYONKI

1) "GURU GOBIND SINGH JI" APNAI "GURU" HANN, AUR AAPA SARAI GURU DA MATLAB JANDAI HI AA. YAA FIR OOH BHI SAMJHAN DI LODH HAIGI.(PER APNAI DUSRAI VEER DI NAJAR DAI VICH GURU DA MATLAB KUCH HOOR BHI HO SAKDA JI)

2)KOI BHI GURU YA BHAGWAN KISAI BHI "JEE YA JANWAR " DI HATYA , SHIKAR , MRATU ETC NAHI KARDAI NAI , OH TAAH APNAI JIWAN DE VICH OHNA DA UTDHAR KARDAI NAI(OHNA DA JIWAN SAFAL KARDAI NAI JISDA MATLAB HAI KI OHNA DAI PAAPA DI SAJA TOH OHNA NO MUKT KARDAI NAI)

3)AAP JI AAH BHI JAANDAI HO KI "GURU" DA MATLAB HUNDA HAI KI JO VEER SAB GUNNA DAI WHICH SAMPURN HOYAI.RABB DA DUJA ROOP.

4)VEER JI BABA JI NAI KADAI BHI NAHI KAHYA HAIGA KI AAPA NU KUTHA YA HALAAL KRKAI KHANA HAI.


VEER JI JHATKA YA KUTHA KHAAN DI SAARI PRATHA ANGREJA DWARA SHURU KARAI GAYI SI GI KYONKI OHNA NU IS DESH DAI UPER RAAJ KARNA SIGA AUR OHNA NAI JAAD SIKH KOOM DA ITIHAS PADYA TAAH OHNA DIYA AKHAA KHULIYA DIYA KHULIYA REHGAYIYA SI KI"SIKH" OH SHAKSIYAT HAGI
1) JO VINA SIRR DAI BHI LAD SAKDAI HUN(MATLAB AMAR),
2) JO SAWALAKH DAI NAAL KALAAI HE LADH LAINDAI HUN(MATLAB POWER)
3) JO HAMAISHA SAARI KOOMA DA SAATH DINDAI HUN(MATLAB IZAT)
4) JINA NU WADAI WADAI ATAK DARYA BHI EK "ARDAS" TEH RAAH DAI DINDAI HUN(MATLAB PAATH DI SHAKTI)
NU AAPA KIMAI HARAMA GAI.
IS KARKAI OHNA NAI KUCH SIKH BANDYA NO LALACH DAI KAI AAPNI WAAL RALAYA TAI APNI "BANIYA" DAI WICH SHAID SHAD KARWAI, BADAI BADAI LOUGA TOH GALAT PRACHAR KARAYA TAKKI SIKH DI SHAKTI " 11TH GURU GURU GRANTH SAHEB JI (SARV SHAKTIMAN) " DI SHAKTI KHAT HO JAYAI.
IS DAI WICH ANGREJ KHUJH HAADH TAK SAFAL BHI HO GAYAI SIGAI. KUCH BANI SAHEB JI NO GURU GRANTH SAHEB JI DAI WHICHO TOAD MAROAD DITA GAYA SI. JISDAI KAARAN AAPNI SIKHI KHANDIT HO GAYI.PER JINA NAI BHI IS KAAM NO ANJAAM DITA OHNA DA TAI BURA HI HOYA AUR OHNA NU BANI DAI NAAL CHAID CHAAD KARAN DI SAJAA BHI AAPAI BHAGWAN JI NAI DITI , JISDA FAAL SWAROOP OH LOOG APANAI MUKH RAHI KUCH BOOL HI NAHI SAKDAI SUN(MATLAB JABAN NAI KAAM KARNA BAND KARTA SI), OHNA NAI AKHAR SAMAY WHICH RUB KOLOO LIKH KAI MAFI MANGI SE TEH KEHA SI KI

" KOI BHI BANDA BANI DAI NAAL CHAID CHAD NA KARYO YA BANI DA GALAT ARTH NA KADYO NAHI TAH US DA HAAL BHI SADAI JHAIJA HOUGA"

IS TOH HUN AAP JI NO SAMAJ JANA CHAIDA HAIGA KI JO LOG AAPJI NU KEHNDAI NAI KI GURU JI NAI MAAS KHADA EH KISDA KAAM HAI.PER HUN ANGREJ CHALAI GAYAI HUN AUR KUCH ANDRUNI SHAKTI JO KI SIKHI NO WADHA DA HOYA NAHI DEKH SAKDIYA HUN IS TARAH DAI KAAM KAR RAHIYA HAAN. IS LAI AAPA WADH TOH WAADH LOUKA NU DASO KI SANU MAAS YA KUTHA YA CHATKA NAI KHANA CHAIDA HAI.

VEER JI AAP SAB MERAI TOH JAYADA GYAN WANE HO, PER MAI AAP SAB DAI AGAI BAINTI KARNA CHAUNGA KI AAJ BHI AMRIT CHAKAN DAI WAILAI KEHA JANDA HAI KI KUTHA NAHI KHANA PER JHATKA KHAA SAKDAI HO. EHH SAB GALAT HAI EHNA SAB CHIJA NU BADH TOH BADH ROKO TAKI SAHI SIKHI DI SALAH DAIO.

TAI KOI SIKH ITIHASAK PRAKASHAK JO AIH GALAT MAND GHADAND SAKHIYA YA AFWAHA SHAAP DAI HAAN ,IS DA PRAKASHAN BAAND KARDO JI JIS KARAN SIKHI APANA RAAH TOH NA BHATKAI.


AUR HAMAISHA " GURU MAANYO GRANTH JI(GURU GRANTH SAHEB JI) "

Waheguru ji ka khalsa, Waheguru ji k fateh

MOKKA MILYA TAK HOR BHI GALA KARANGAI JI
KOI GALTI HOYAI TAH ANJAN BACHA SAMAJ KAI MAAF KARNA JI.

lovable_mani said:

"Waheguru ji ka khalsa, Waheguru ji k fateh "
bolo te meat khana chado.............
confusion de koi gal he nahi aa yaar.........
be away from those who tell u something wrong
jeethe tak friendship the gal hai, it all upto u.....
u cant leave anyone just cause he or she eat or drinks somethings u dont do.....

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