Is Indian Punjab destined for dustbin of history?

Ramta

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The so-called confidence building measures between India and Pakistan are now underway. The proponents of these measures have not fully explained how this would diffuse tensions between India and Pakistan.

The background of the groups and individuals behind this push is disturbing. Some of them belong to established jihadi-fronts against India – this includes assorted variety of Indian Muslims and their organizations. Others are left-oriented “peaceniks” who have a strong record of apologizing for Islamic terrorism at the expense of its victims.

Going by the track record and the underlying ideology, one could argue that anything these two groups advocates is not in India’s national interests.

Lets focus on the implications of these moves for Indian Punjab, a critical border state. This analysis shows that New Delhi has recklessly and without adequate study is pushing ahead with a process of normalization. Such normalization would lead to mostly one way transfer of Muslim populations into Indian Punjab, along with most western border states and will lead to a permanent displacement of Sikhs and Hindus residents.

There are very few Muslims still living in Indian Punjab. But Islam is destroying this region anyway. What has happened is that due to neighboring Kashmiri Muslim’s jihad against India and due to Pakistan’s proximity, very few high-tech industrial investments could be made in Punjab. Due to population growth the lands inherited have been further divided, making many Sikh families increasingly impoverished. In order to destroy India Pakistan continues to implant anti-Hindu ideas in the minds of some Sikhs, making the state somewhat unstable.

Also, with Indian Muslims sucking the life out of India with expenses related to terrorism, subsidizes, and reservation, resources are being unfairly taken away from investing and developing many states, including Punjab.

Now, the process of “normalization” or “people-to-people” interaction envisioned by New Delhi, along with increased trade requires much more porous borders. While Pakistan is likely to remain unsafe for non-Muslims due to hateful religious preaching in its mosques, a growing and secular India would be a magnate for Pakistani Muslims.

Pakistan continues to be a nation among the highest rates of population growth -- many poor Pakistanis have been desperately emigrating. Only an adversarial relation and a closed border have stopped them from coming to India -- a nation where they can mingle easily given similar language and customs. India’s eastern border states have been systematically flooded by Muslims from Islamic Bangladesh with whom India has “normalized” relations. India is destined to lose these border states at this rate. In fact, successive democratically elected governments have no plans on how to stop this demographic expansion or drive out this Muslim population. Similar scenario will occur when India’s relations are normalized with Pakistan; India’s eastern borders will be flooded by Pakistani Muslims.

Softer border with India also makes it possible for Pakistani Islamists to extend Islamic borders in the easiest way possible – by exporting Muslims and occupying lands and then drive out the natives – the most established way Islam has conquered territory in South Asia.

If Pakistan wants India to “help” (get assistance from India in order to come out of militant Islam’s grasp) it by normalizing relations with it, then one has to conclude that “help” is needed because Islam is destroying Pakistan. Hence India is all the more justified in quarantining itself from Pakistan – a fully Islam “infected” nation, and work to first eradicate Islamic fascism within Indian boundaries.Saving Pakistan comes later!

There exists no evidence that Islam or the Muslim religious establishment have changed their ways. Islam as a religion doesn’t offer any positive vision for its adherents in South Asia. In fact, it can only keep them under the fold by inventing grievances and engage them at a perpetual state of war with non-Muslims – towards first bringing entire India under Islamic fold. India’s own Muslim population is the standing example of what is so wrong with Islam in South Asia!

The border states, and in particular Kashmir and Punjab, will see their Muslim population swell due to illegal migration from Pakistan -- if Indo-Pak relations normalize. These Muslims, by simply being South Asian Muslims -- going by the track record -- will make life unsafe for non-Muslims, including Sikhs and will make Punjab even less of a desirable place to invest. Hence such a Punjab will have increasingly poorer Sikhs and financially better off ones will simply leave for states located deep within India.


Conclusion: Normalized relations with Pakistan will inevitably lead to a demographic takeover of East Punjab by Pakistani Muslims. Sikhs and Hindus will become poorer and will be displaced permanently from their final ancestral land in South Asia.

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Ramta

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Musharraf -- a cosmopolitan jihadi -- is one of the few Pakistani leaders to realize that Pakistani embrace of extremism will lead to its doom and that it must embark on some form of modernization to move forward. To embrace modernism he also realizes the need to get help from the western nations, and in particular, the United States of America.

But he is also a Pakistani military officer who appears to believe in supremacy of a “moderate” version of Islam in South Asia. By implication, this necessarily means destruction of the dominant country of the region, India. India’s destruction will mean bleak future for non-Muslims of the region, including Sikhs, Jains, Christians and Buddhists -- in addition to Hindus.

Musharraf’s jihadi intent can be ascertained by the fact that he talks only about freedom of Kashmiri Muslims in India, but says nothing about non-Muslims who have been driven out of Pakistani part of Kashmir or from the rest of Pakistan.

To achieve India’s destruction he is using jihadi ideology and forces. He is a prime strategist and sponsor of Islamic terrorism in Kashmir. Under him Pakistan has intensified encircling of India by jihadi forces. Now a major thrust, including terrorism, is coming from Pakistan-Saudi Arabia’s client state – Islamic Bangladesh. He has also worked to establish jihadi cells within India and has sped up the jihadization of Indian Muslims.

And no matter how many promises Musharrafe makes his/their U-turns are the stuff legends are made of.

This quote from his televised speech he gave after 9/11 justifying his joing the US led war on Islamic fascism is relevent here :

"Any wrong judgement on our part can damage all our interests. While taking a decision, we have to keep in mind all these factors. The decision should reflect supremacy of righteousness and it should be in conformity with Islam. Whatever we are doing, it is according to Islam and it upholds the principle of righteousness. I would like to say that decisions about the national interests should be made with wisdom and rational judgement.

At this moment, it is not the question of bravery or cowardice. We are all very brave. My own response in such situations is usually of daring. But bravery without rational judgement tantamounts to stupidity. There is no clash between bravery and sound judgement.

Allah Almighty says in the holy Quran, "The one bestowed with sagacity is the one who get a big favour from Allah". We have to take recourse to sanity. We have to save our nation from damage. We have to build up; our national respect. "Pakistan comes first, everything else comes later".

Some scholars and religious leaders are inclined towards taking emotional decisions. I would like to remind them the events of the first six years of the history of Islam.

The Islamic calendar started from migration. The significance of migration is manifested from the fact that the Holy Prophet (PBUH) went from Makkah to Madina. He (PBUH) migrated to safeguard Islam.

What was migration? God forbid, was it an act of cowardice? The Holy Prophet (PBUH) signed the charter of Madinah (Meesaq-e-Madinah) with the Jewish tribes. It was an act of sagacity.

What is the lesson for us in this? The lesson is that when there is a crisis situation, the path of wisdom is better than the path of emotions. Therefore, we have to take a strategic decision."

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So you see they can make a pact with anyone when it benefits them even if they are Jews - the ones they hate most.

Guru Gobind Singh Ji had a very real reason when he said that smear your whole arm with oil and dip it in a sack ful of tils and as many tils get stuck to your arms, even if those many times a muslim swears, don't believe him...

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will make life unsafe for non-Muslims, including Sikhs


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shied sikh india ch hun v safe nai......ih main taan keh rea ke 1984 ch delhi ch sikhan da ki haal hoya c...... oh kade fer nahi hovega is di ki guarantee aa????? ih main sochda haan ho sakda main galat hovaan......haan punjab ch sikh safe han par yaar 1984 soch ke sachi dil ja darr janda.
 

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SHauKeeN GaBRu

Chardi Kala
hey guys chill....
jinne read karna hai read kare...jinne ignore karana kare...

But I agree tht Punjab is in very bad condition...kinne hi Muslims aagaye ne, kinne hi Bihar - UP ton aagaye ne, kinne hi SIkh youth kes katayi jande ne, hor thore saal vich Sikh te dikhne hi badi mushkil naal ne :n
 

SHauKeeN GaBRu

Chardi Kala
Well.....do i need to answer that...?

oye...just try to understand what message he's trying to convey...jinna da Punjab ch assli hak hai, o Punjab chhad ke jaayi jande...so its obvious tht ppl frm other states will migrate to PUNJAB...fer Punjab da haal marha hi hona
 

rockaclimba

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I do not think anyone can hurt sikhs unless sikhs stands united. A community when divided by ruler..is standing on a dangerous turn of time.

We do not have to have fear from Pakistan but have to have fear from DELHI. It is our own people who hurts...Pakistan is small issue. So is KASHMIR....

DELHI do not wanted to solve KASHMIR because this is a ball to play. For example: BJP will never recite RAM TEMPLE but when election comes..shameless leaders starts reciting RAM TEMPLE and BABRI MASJID issue.
FOR SIKHS: This is a open secret that congress gets the 1984 done...then how come congress smartly rules Punjab for good 5 years ?
We are destined to go through all this...we say ourselves SHER...but this is how DELHI plays with us...like cat sometimes plays with mouse [ sure meat ]
 
I do not think anyone can hurt sikhs unless sikhs stands united. A community when divided by ruler..is standing on a dangerous turn of time.

We do not have to have fear from Pakistan but have to have fear from DELHI. It is our own people who hurts...Pakistan is small issue. So is KASHMIR....

DELHI do not wanted to solve KASHMIR because this is a ball to play. For example: BJP will never recite RAM TEMPLE but when election comes..shameless leaders starts reciting RAM TEMPLE and BABRI MASJID issue.
FOR SIKHS: This is a open secret that congress gets the 1984 done...then how come congress smartly rules Punjab for good 5 years ?
We are destined to go through all this...we say ourselves SHER...but this is how DELHI plays with us...like cat sometimes plays with mouse [ sure meat ]

yeah, i agree, but i think congress ruled only coz akali too not capable to rule nd main cause is corruption.....nd corruption is not limited to punjab only
 
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