Wht you think abt dasam granth???????

Mahaj

YodhaFakeeR
u can find millions of webpages debating on this .....thou these are the following major sikh organizations support dasam granth ......
Damdami taksal mehta
Damdami taksal bhai mani singh
Buddha dal
SSF
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i wld say it is real ...it is basically against the ancient southeast asian practices and religions such as idol worship ,physical body worship and sex worship .....its not for beginners ......u really need to be good at SGGS teachings to understand dasam's pov ...!!!
u have to research on ur own ..SGGS is your road map....u dont pack ur map and place it under gold ornaments ..u open it and try to find ur destiny
 
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Yaar Punjabi

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but man aapa sangat ch ja apni family ch ish nu parah ni sakde,,i think u knw ish ch kini ashlelta hai.te jo aapa sangat ch parah hi ni sakde oh gurbani kive ho sakdiaa;;;te better ehi hou ke tusi eh aap parah ke dekho,,,,,kis kis tra diya gla daraz ne,,,,,,,tusi aap kaho ge eh gla mera guru kive likh sakda
 
but man aapa sangat ch ja apni family ch ish nu parah ni sakde,,i think u knw ish ch kini ashlelta hai.te jo aapa sangat ch parah hi ni sakde oh gurbani kive ho sakdiaa;;;te better ehi hou ke tusi eh aap parah ke dekho,,,,,kis kis tra diya gla daraz ne,,,,,,,tusi aap kaho ge eh gla mera guru kive likh sakda
bhaji je eh soch ke parhde k guru ne likhiya aa ta shayad asslil na lagdia
@mahaj bhaji bilkul agree karda main
 
tusi kadi medical parhan waleya nu pucheya k tusi munde kuriya eni assleelta waliya gallan(tuhade kehan mutabak) ikathe beh ke kiwe sun sakde aa????
je mere to pucho ta mere layi oh giyaan hai baaki tusi socho....and pehla SGGS ji nu parh layiye baaki granth baad ch....
 

Yaar Punjabi

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tusi kadi medical parhan waleya nu pucheya k tusi munde kuriya eni assleelta waliya gallan(tuhade kehan mutabak) ikathe beh ke kiwe sun sakde aa????
je mere to pucho ta mere layi oh giyaan hai baaki tusi socho....and pehla SGGS ji nu parh layiye baaki granth baad ch....
veer ji sirf eh reason hi nhi.........
baki v kai reason ne....ish da half part aurat de chariter dasn ch hi lang janda,,,,,,,,,,guru nank dev ji ne keha "so kyu manda akhiye jis jame rajan"
te guru nanank di hi jot guru gobind ji aurat de charitra nu hi expalin kive kar sakde haan............ehde vich nanak sabad da jikar ik waar v ni aaauda,,,nanak de tha te mahakal da jikar kita janda,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,jithi tak main parhya te main kehna eh sari kalka devi di hi puja hai
 

Mahaj

YodhaFakeeR
but man aapa sangat ch ja apni family ch ish nu parah ni sakde,,i think u knw ish ch kini ashlelta hai.te jo aapa sangat ch parah hi ni sakde oh gurbani kive ho sakdiaa;;;te better ehi hou ke tusi eh aap parah ke dekho,,,,,kis kis tra diya gla daraz ne,,,,,,,tusi aap kaho ge eh gla mera guru kive likh sakda
purely my opinion
apa nu kujj 99% gallan apne dad sareah sahmne dasde ......but 1% gallan oo apa nu awaz maar k vakhre karkey dasde .....
ashleeelta taan lagdi aa j apa 404 (403 actually) khania cho ik adhi parr k desicion lae layie...j poorian parriye te kujj ahleel nai lagda.....SGGS cho v lines mildian ne jehrian asleel te aurat de khilaaf lagdian ne but offcourse eda hae nahi ...bapu k ladle bhaji vali gal k reproduction chapter nu apa tinno rall k parangey te asi kite hor pahunch jana.....ik MBBS da student paruga te ohnu kite hor pahunch jana...
even in SGGS mahakal word is used...but to describe the infinite commander of death .....same is here...mahakal is described to knowledge of god....not nanak or shiva or kalika
eda hi karde aa sarey .......jado tria chritar di gal aundi aa..odo kehnde adi granth te kujj hor kehnda...te jado devi pooja di gal aundi aa odo adi garnth nu refer ee nai karde ....all these terms are arleady used in adi granth ...so dasam nu hamesha SGGS di vichardhara de thale rakh k hi parna painda
ਗਿਆਨ ਹੂੰ ਕੇ ਗਿਆਤਾ ਮਹਾਂ ਬੁਧਿਤਾ ਕੇ ਦਾਤਾ ਦੇਵ ਕਾਲ ਹੂੰ ਕੇ ਕਾਲ ਮਹਾ ਕਾਲ ਹੂੰ ਕੇ ਕਾਲ ਹੈਂ ॥੧॥੨੫੩॥
naari te naar de chritar nu pesh keete bina religion is incomplete ......KAAM krodh lobh moh hankaar ...da tiyaag ...getting ?
 
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Yaar Punjabi

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purely my opinion
apa nu kujj 99% gallan apne dad sareah sahmne dasde ......but 1% gallan oo apa nu awaz maar k vakhre karkey dasde .....
ashleeelta taan lagdi aa j apa 404 (403 actually) khania cho ik adhi parr k desicion lae layie...j poorian parriye te kujj ahleel nai lagda.....SGGS cho v lines mildian ne jehrian asleel te aurat de khilaaf lagdian ne but offcourse eda hae nahi ...bapu k ladle bhaji vali gal k reproduction chapter nu apa tinno rall k parangey te asi kite hor pahunch jana.....ik MBBS da student paruga te ohnu kite hor pahunch jana...
even in SGGS mahakal word is used...but to describe the infinite commander of death .....same is here...mahakal is described to knowledge of god....not nanak or shiva or kalika
eda hi karde aa sarey .......jado tria chritar di gal aundi aa..odo kehnde adi granth te kujj hor kehnda...te jado devi pooja di gal aundi aa odo adi garnth nu refer ee nai karde ....all these terms are arleady used in adi granth ...so dasam nu hamesha SGGS di vichardhara de thale rakh k hi parna painda
ਗਿਆਨ ਹੂੰ ਕੇ ਗਿਆਤਾ ਮਹਾਂ ਬੁਧਿਤਾ ਕੇ ਦਾਤਾ ਦੇਵ ਕਾਲ ਹੂੰ ਕੇ ਕਾਲ ਮਹਾ ਕਾਲ ਹੂੰ ਕੇ ਕਾਲ ਹੈਂ ॥੧॥੨੫੩॥
naari te naar de chritar nu pesh keete bina religion is incomplete ......KAAM krodh lobh moh hankaar ...da tiyaag ...getting ?
tusi right oh ke bachiter natak nu SGGS de thale hona chahida //veer ji mainu pta tusi mere ch believe nahi karna ish lyi mere kuj kehn da fahiyda haini,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,eh sikh misnari waliya de eh video jarur dekh lo.,,je tusi kehneo naari te naar de chritar nu pesh keete bina religion is incomplete .aaa........ethe disagree veere main,,chalo koi ni kai vaar vichaar nahi milde............
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bhaji tusi yar apni soch rakho ehna nu ki sunna???? tusi sant jarnail singh ji izzat karde ho??sant singh ji maskin and bhai veer singh and manny other gumukhs ki ohna ch believe karde ho???
 

Yaar Punjabi

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yaar jehra v sach di gal karda oh bura hi kyu lagda..................

chalo ehna nu chado hun history v dekh lyi eh...1892 toh pehla bachiter natak da kite v jikar nahi aya...na banda bahadaur de raj ch na Maharaja ranjit singh de raj kite v ehda jikar nahi,,,pehli waar nirmalya walo 1892 ch eh janta samne aya..200 saal eh book kithe si,,,je guru je ne guru granth saahib da jikar kita si,,,taah ehde bare v taah dasna si na.......................aaj tak diya sikh history diya books dekh lo ik war v ishda naa tak ni aya,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,es book de taah namm hi bahut change hoye.
pehla bachiter natak
phir dasam granth
phir sri dasam granth
hun sri guru dasam granth sahib
naal sab jande aa aapa ke guru apna ik hi hai,,,,,,,,,,,,,GURU MANYO GRANTH
phir eh ik hor guru granth kitho gya........

veer ji main taah santa ja mahapurkha nu nahi ohna de vichara di respect karde aa.. hun tusi daso tusi sikh vidwana di respect karde oo..jihna ne hemkunt ,sikh rehet mariyada baniye...oh sare proffer,,like teja singh,,gyani ganga singh,,,,,,gyani gurbachan singh,, sangat singh,khuswant singh......ETC eh ne sikh scholar jo as a sikh reseracher v kam karde ne ja karde si,,,,,,,eh v fake dasde ne ehnu nu
 

Mahaj

YodhaFakeeR
i m not saying dasam is guru ...but jidan tusi ee mann lea k ee kujj v nai ...the very next day you will be a hindu or muslim ...either one of them ..
by excluding dasam from sikhi u will exclude
deh shiva bar mohe
jaap sahib (akaal ustat)
chandi di vaar (anti idol worship text)
zafarnama (jide cho lai ik tuk karkey {choo kaar aj hama} parliament ch sang parr parr k kirpan carry karan da haq lea )
j tusi ess gal naal disagree karde aa naari nar de chirter ton bina dharam incomplete aa fer tusi pata nahi dharam kinu keh rahe j ..kyunki dharam KAAM krodh lobh moh hankaar de tiyaag ton baad hi shuru hunda ,,
ਜੋਰਾ ਦਾ ਆਖਿਆ ਪੁਰਖ ਕਮਾਵਦੇ ਸੇ ਅਪਵਿਤ ਅਮੇਧ ਖਲਾ ॥ SGGS
nalle kai panktian SGGS vich v ne jina te etraaz karan vale ashleel keh k karde ne ..
ho sakda mae thde te believe na karaan but believe me mae thde dite facts te jaroor belive karunga ...even some of my questions abt dasam r unclear ......
patshai 10 de anandpur chaddan da karan ehi writings sunn .....
sri guru dasam, granth ..comma painda vich
aa te ohi gal aa ...nanak ....patshai 1 ....guru nanak...guru nanak dev....dhann dhann guru nanak dev ji ....mahraj nirankarr roop dhan dhan shri guru nanak dev ji mahraaj kirpa nidhaan ....
a jehrian tusi video post keetian ....eda mae pehla ques ee sunnea...bakki ...tusi ethe post kardo othe hor ki ki questions ne ..eeda jawab e aa k ee gal te SGGS ch v aundi aa k krishan shiva sabb tennu hi poojde ne ..suraj v tere ton upjea ...j dasam ch aa gayi te ki ho geya .....nalle ee mera veer mera guru mera guru te eda karda jida sirf eda ee hunda..emotional atiyachar ...guru shaib ne 7 saal de sahibjada fateh singh nu v gurmat deni aa ...te birdh avasta vale bhai mani singh nu v sikhea deni aa...te jawani ch aunde ajit singh nu v sikhea deni aa....chritropakhiyan sirf te sirf khalse lai aa...jado tak ik sikh khalsa nahi bann janda..odo tak stick to SGGS ....
ajj chartropakhyan nu hath pae reha...kal dasam granth nu ..parso rag mala...te akheer SGGS ....te fer darbar shib vich moortian ...history repeats ..nalle sikhaan de patte show aa ...rubb rakha thda
 

Bindra

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The*Sri Dasam Granth*is attributed to have been written by Guru Gobind Singh (1666-1708)
However, there is great debate over various portions of the scriptures.
There is no doubt that the authenticity of the*Dasam Granth*is highly questionable, but what remains a fact is that the*Dasam Granth*exists.

Some portions of the Dasam Granth have not been fully accepted by some Sikhs. However, most Sikh groups, including all of the older organisations, accept it in its entirety.
At one stage it was debated whether to divide the book. This question arose because the original writings of the Tenth Guru had not been joined into one granth, but were separate. They had been collected into a single Granth by Bhai Mani Singh. Bhai Mehtab Singh of Mirankot (who was charged by the Panth to capture or assassinate Massa Ranghar who had established himself in the holy Golden Temple at Amritsar and was desecrating its sanctity) suggested to the leaders of his community that if he came back victorious in his mission, the book should be preserved in one volume, otherwise it may divided into two. Mehtab Singh was successful in putting Massa Ranghar to an ignoble death and hence the volume was preserved as it now is. This, however, as the Sikh savant, Bhai Kahan Singh points out, is a most arbitrary way of settling a point of such literary and theological significance. Moreover, a single man's point of view should not have prevailed - especially of a military hero, or even a Jathedar in search of martyrdom, in preference to the viewpoint of the theologians and scholars who were still discussing the point.
From 1892 to 1897, eminent scholars assembled at the Akal Takht, Amritsar, to study the various printed Dasam Granths and prepare an authoritative version. They consulted as many as 32 editions before preparing the version that is currently in circulation. Among these scholars were Bhai Manna Singh Hakim, Bhai Narain Singh, Bhai Thakur Singh, Bhai Sant Singh (son of Giani Gian Singh), Bhai Bishan Singh, Sant Gopal Das Udasi and Mahant Amir Singh. In this process, they determined that the Dasam Granth was entirely the work of Guru Gobind Singh.
Further re-examinations and reviews took place in 1931, under the aegis of The Darbar Sahib Committee of the Shiromani Gurdwara Prabandhak Committee. It vindicated the earlier conclusions and published its findings in a book.
However, the controversy continues, as there is reluctance among some modern day preachers to fully accept the entire text of the Dasam Granth. Therefore, scholars appealed to Baba Virsa Singh, a highly revered spiritual teacher of Sikh background, to gather scholars to clarify the doubts about the Dasam Granth. A seminar was held on January 3rd and 4th, 1999, at the Gobind Sadan Institute in New Delhi, India.
On February 20th, 2000, at Gobind Sadan, Baba Virsa Singh confirmed the Dasam Granth in its entirety as the Guru's work and released the first complete Punjabi translation of the writings of Guru Gobind Singh, plus other scholarly works about the life and teachings of Guru Gobind Singh.

Bani Guru , Guru Hai Bani ,Vich Bani Amrit Sare
 
i m not saying dasam is guru ...but jidan tusi ee mann lea k ee kujj v nai ...the very next day you will be a hindu or muslim ...either one of them ..
by excluding dasam from sikhi u will exclude
deh shiva bar mohe
jaap sahib (akaal ustat)
chandi di vaar (anti idol worship text)
zafarnama (jide cho lai ik tuk karkey {choo kaar aj hama} parliament ch sang parr parr k kirpan carry karan da haq lea )
j tusi ess gal naal disagree karde aa naari nar de chirter ton bina dharam incomplete aa fer tusi pata nahi dharam kinu keh rahe j ..kyunki dharam KAAM krodh lobh moh hankaar de tiyaag ton baad hi shuru hunda ,,
ਜੋਰਾ ਦਾ ਆਖਿਆ ਪੁਰਖ ਕਮਾਵਦੇ ਸੇ ਅਪਵਿਤ ਅਮੇਧ ਖਲਾ ॥ SGGS
nalle kai panktian SGGS vich v ne jina te etraaz karan vale ashleel keh k karde ne ..
ho sakda mae thde te believe na karaan but believe me mae thde dite facts te jaroor belive karunga ...even some of my questions abt dasam r unclear ......
patshai 10 de anandpur chaddan da karan ehi writings sunn .....
sri guru dasam, granth ..comma painda vich
aa te ohi gal aa ...nanak ....patshai 1 ....guru nanak...guru nanak dev....dhann dhann guru nanak dev ji ....mahraj nirankarr roop dhan dhan shri guru nanak dev ji mahraaj kirpa nidhaan ....
a jehrian tusi video post keetian ....eda mae pehla ques ee sunnea...bakki ...tusi ethe post kardo othe hor ki ki questions ne ..eeda jawab e aa k ee gal te SGGS ch v aundi aa k krishan shiva sabb tennu hi poojde ne ..suraj v tere ton upjea ...j dasam ch aa gayi te ki ho geya .....nalle ee mera veer mera guru mera guru te eda karda jida sirf eda ee hunda..emotional atiyachar ...guru shaib ne 7 saal de sahibjada fateh singh nu v gurmat deni aa ...te birdh avasta vale bhai mani singh nu v sikhea deni aa...te jawani ch aunde ajit singh nu v sikhea deni aa....chritropakhiyan sirf te sirf khalse lai aa...jado tak ik sikh khalsa nahi bann janda..odo tak stick to SGGS ....
ajj chartropakhyan nu hath pae reha...kal dasam granth nu ..parso rag mala...te akheer SGGS ....te fer darbar shib vich moortian ...history repeats ..nalle sikhaan de patte show aa ...rubb rakha thda
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mandeep bhaji mahaj bhaji di gal je ta sikh samaz gye ta thk aa nahi ta phe janeu poun layi tyaar raho.....
sarkaar ne apni puri kossish karke dekh layi k ehna nu maar mkouna aa... 10 saal sada rajj ke shikaar kita par assi ne mukke(shayad oh sade itihaas to wakif nai san)...
phe ohna ne sadiya kamzooriya labh layia te sade vich apne kuj kutte sher de mkhoteya wale pa ditte....
futt pao je ke ehna vich eh mareya ne mukkde ehna nu dofaar karo phe assi dofaar ho gye houli houli ohna ne sanu do to chaar te chaar to 8 faar kar ditta hai and eh neeti hale v zaari hai te odo tak zaari rahu jad tak assi khtam ne ho jande(eh v ohna da bhulekha he hai jis da guru juggo jugg atal howe oh khatm kiwe ho sakda)......
........rahi gal dasam granth di jida k mahaj veer ne keha k assi jado dasam da tiyaag karta odo sikh ik wakhri koum wali gal khatm ho jaani........dasam te hamla is karke hoya hai k os vich sikh ik wakhri koum de partakh saboot milde han.... ohna ne eh gal samaz layi par sade sikha nu eh gal samaz ne ayi k dasam granth hai ki....
je tusi eh sabit karna howe k sikh ik wakhri koum hai ta tuhade kol jine partakh saboot dasam ch han one shiri guru granth sahib ji vich nai han.....
jidan dasam kahatm ho gya tuhada amrit sanchaar khatam,
tuhada nitnem khatm,
sikh ik wakhri koum eh v khatam....

kaahu le pahan pooj dharyo ser
kaahu le ling gare latkayo
kaahu lakhyo har awachi disa main
kaahu pchaah ko sees niwayo,
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