What is "Bipran ki Reet"?

Sahib Shri Guru Gobind Singh ji da shabad hai.
"Khalsa meri jaan ki jaan, khalse mein main karu niwas"
"Jab lag Khalsa rahe niyara, tab lag tej diyo main sara"
"Jab eh pare biparan ki reet, main karyo inki parteet"

In this shabad Guru Ji holds Khalsa comparable to himself. Once khalsa goes on the path of Biparan then Khalsa will be no more Guru's Khalsa.

Does that means Guru Ji realized much before the time that some/few/all Khalsa will go on path of biparan?
What is this biparan ki reet?
Are we on that path of biparan?

[SIZE=+1]ਅਬ ਬਿਪ੍ਰ ਪਰਧਾਨ ਤਿਹਿ ਕਰਹਿ ਡੰਡਉਤਿ ਤੇਰੇ ਨਾਮ ਸਰਣਾਇ ਰਵਿਦਾਸੁ ਦਾਸਾ ॥੩॥੧॥ ravidas ji
[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]- the ritualistic Brahmins bow in reverence before their son Ravi Daas, the slave of the Lord's slaves.
[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]ਬਿਪ੍ਰ ਸੁਦਾਮੇ ਦਾਲਦੁ ਭੰਜ ॥guru arjan
[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]He delivered the poor Brahmin Sudama out of poverty.

these panktis from sggs shows that bipar = brahmin , pandit
bipran ki reet means bipareet ...or the traditions followed by brahmins or pandits
[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]ਦੁਤੀਆ ਭਾਉ ਬਿਪਰੀਤ ਅਨੀਤ ਦਾਸਾ ਨਹ ਭਾਵਏ ਜੀਉ ॥guru arjan
[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]The love of duality, this evil practice, this bad habit, is not liked by the Lord's slaves.
in other words any one who worship any thing in any form for example stones , books, snakes, elephants or half man elephant or half monkey man.and belives in karma ...pun paap ....shubh ashubh ...daan for pun ...or anything like that
99% of so called sikhs are on bipran ki reet
if u go to hemkunt shaib or nanded shib or any other teerath and sochde o k sanu punn lagg reha yan sada jivan safal ho rea ...you are on bipran ki reet
darbar sahib amritsar vich v pandit i:e bipran ne kuj reetan chaliyan jo sikh sidhaantha de ulat ne but chal rahie ....vicharey sikha da ohi haal aa
k pehla akhaan ton anhe ne ..te uproo sutte ne
wut u think pps??

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I agree with most of your post.

Main mannda ke sirk hemkunt sahib jaan naal punn ni milna, hemkunt sahib ya harmandar sahib jaana te punn lai nai Guru de pyar lai jaao. Je dil ch pyar aa ke Guru Ki Nagri, Guru ka asthan dekhan nu mann kar raya ta jao. It is source of inspiration, otthe jaake ho sakda tusi inspire ho ke change maarg tur pao.

I may not agree with you on Karam, I believe karam-siddhant is strong in Sikhi. Two shabads "Karam' and "Gyan" have been used multiple times by Guru Nanak. Even the place where a sikh lives is termed as "Karam Bhoomi" not "Motherland".

menu exactly "biparan" da meaning samjh ni aaya

Rano said:

menu exactly "biparan" da meaning samjh ni aaya

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rano ji ...bipran = brahmin , pandit.......jehra materialistic cheeja nu rabb manda rehnda

pps309 said:

I agree with most of your post.

Main mannda ke sirk hemkunt sahib jaan naal punn ni milna, hemkunt sahib ya harmandar sahib jaana te punn lai nai Guru de pyar lai jaao. Je dil ch pyar aa ke Guru Ki Nagri, Guru ka asthan dekhan nu mann kar raya ta jao. It is source of inspiration, otthe jaake ho sakda tusi inspire ho ke change maarg tur pao.

I may not agree with you on Karam, I believe karam-siddhant is strong in Sikhi. Two shabads "Karam' and "Gyan" have been used multiple times by Guru Nanak. Even the place where a sikh lives is termed as "Karam Bhoomi" not "Motherland".

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yea exactly but koi punn nai lagda and naa ee jivan safal hunda rite..? ehi mae kehna chaea ......lol....meri grezi tight aa..........2nd veerji
jiven k keha ae nanak ne "karmi avve kappra nadri mookh davar" ........"karmi apo apni k nerre k door...jini naam dhaea gaye maskat ghaal"
so karma nu jayada vajjan nai dita geya ...sagoo keha geya k karma na u will be reborn but by love of god u will attain him .....
gyan vich te sikh poora poora belive rakhdi aa...gyaan dhyaan de pillars te ee sikhi khloti aa.....pehla uss parmatma barey poora gyaan fer uss gyaan nu follow karna and yaad rakhna is dhyaan
tuhadey ki vichaar ne ??

Mahaj said:

yea exactly but koi punn nai lagda and naa ee jivan safal hunda rite..? ehi mae kehna chaea ......lol....meri grezi tight aa..........2nd veerji
jiven k keha ae nanak ne "karmi avve kappra nadri mookh davar" ........"karmi apo apni k nerre k door...jini naam dhaea gaye maskat ghaal"
so karma nu jayada vajjan nai dita geya ...sagoo keha geya k karma na u will be reborn but by love of god u will attain him .....
gyan vich te sikh poora poora belive rakhdi aa...gyaan dhyaan de pillars te ee sikhi khloti aa.....pehla uss parmatma barey poora gyaan fer uss gyaan nu follow karna and yaad rakhna is dhyaan
tuhadey ki vichaar ne ??

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Hanji, teerath jaan, ganga nahan naal punn ni lagda, naa hi paap mitde aa. Tan di mael dhoti ja sakdi aa, mann di nahi.

"Karmi aave kapra, nadri mokh davar"
Karma naal hi saadi aatma nu sareer roop kapra milda hai. Te nadar naal saanu mokh da davar milda hai.

Hun oh nadar kidda mil sakdi aa, osdi ik jugat jo tusi quote kiti aa "Jinni naam dhieyia gaye maskat ghal", jinna ne naam dhiyaya/hirday ch vasa oss naam da simran kitta ohna da jeevan tarr janda.

Par ik hor pankti v aa, "paee prapat manuk dehuriya, gobind milan ki eh teri variya" or "bin bhaaga simran na hoye". Te aa gal ta tusi v mande ho ke karma to bina manukh deh ch naam jaapan da bhag v ni c milna. Kitne hi manukh aa jo naam nahi japde, jaande aa par fer v nahi jap hunda.

Naam japan da furna jo sadde mann ch paida hunda oh v ik karam aa (shayad antariksh karam kehnde aa, koi v furna jo mann/dil/dimag ch aaunda ohnu antariksh karam kehnde aa). Naam japan de lai karam karna jaruri aa, oss karam nu jawan hona ossda parfulit hona jaruri aa.
Aise karam kariye ke mann ch udarta, guru lai prem, guru ki saaji kudrat lai prem bane ta fer naam v sehaj hi jap hunda. Jad saade karam maare hunde aa te fer naam v nahi jap hunda, muh kriya ta jarur karda par mann kitte hor hi gaya hunda.

Ik example dena apni life da:
Main Naam-Simran abhyas shuru kita c, oss samay main sewa v karda c, sangat di juttiya v saaf karda c te hor subh karam karan di koshish karda c. Rabb ne mehar kitti, kuch cher changa naam abhyas kita. Fer oh sab change karam (seva) band karte, te Naam Simran abhyas v holi holi jaanda raya.

P.S-> Naam simran, Waheguru di mahima da vakhyan karna, Gurbani de gyan nu hriday ch vasona sab to uttam hai. Gurbani har samay naam japan nu prerdi aa. Te change karam pelli pauri aa jiss to hunde hoye tusi naam-abhyas/simran kar sakde ho te jeevan sufla kar sakde ho.

Bhul chuk maaf.

sikhi da motive a k parmaatma naal ik ho jana taan k murr k iss dharti te aun di lorr na rahe ....hor shabda vich ..ode hukam de adheen rehna ....hor shabda vich ee samjna k jo hoea chnga hoea, jo ho reha chnga ho reha, jo hoega chnga hoega...(jo tudh bhave sai bhalikaar)...hor shabda vich apne te rabb vicho apna app kadd denna ....
"Karmi aave kapra, nadri mokh davar"
Karma naal hi saadi aatma nu sareer roop kapra milda hai. Te nadar naal saanu mokh da davar milda hai.
fer asi karma te focus kyu kar rahe aa ...sanu nadar chaihda aa... naa k rebirth why dont we just focus on nadar ....karam odo tak ne jado tak tusi apna app rakhea vich ...jado apna app hi nai fer karn vala v ohh karaun vala v ohh ..na koi marra karam te na koi chnga
karma amm tor te do arth lae jande ne
karma = action
karma = fate..may be apa ethe kitte kujj galat lae rahe aa
nalle j karma da hisaab kitaab haiga ae te fer manu lagda k saheeda de sartaaz... sikh marg de pehle shaheed ...5th nanak.. sahib guru arjan ji ne koi bahute chnge karam nai kitte hoon ge thaoen fer ohna nu enni vaadi te dardnaak saaja milli ....!!gustaakhi di maafi cahuna sahib de darbar
tuhadey ki vichaar ne ??

^^ Veer ji, main thode naal agree karda, only thing is we cannot neglect our Karam. this is what I believe.

Rahi Gal Saheedi marg di ya Guru Arjan Dev ji di shaeedi wali, ta oss to bada te mahan karam ki ho sakda.
Main hun Gurbani di pankti bhul gaya. Kuch edda di aa..."aisi marni jo marre bahur na marna hoye"

Chalo, Lets see what others have to say on Bipran ki Reet?

gurvy ik theek keha te ik dum simple wording ch samja dita sab nu
thank ya

agree wid gurvy

i have a question in mind.....
je bande nu pata vi jo main kita... eh guru ji de against hai....but still they have full faith in God... means ke ohna nu vishvaas aa rabb te...n there's smthg that they relli want..... then ki rabb gal kadi ni puri karunge kya?

Rano said:

i have a question in mind.....
je bande nu pata vi jo main kita... eh guru ji de against hai....but still they have full faith in God... means ke ohna nu vishvaas aa rabb te...n there's smthg that they relli want..... then ki rabb gal kadi ni puri karunge kya?

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tusi ki sochde ho? tusi answer karo

je menu samjh aa reha hunda te main puchdi kyun

Guru te Rabb dovein bakshanhaar hai, lor hai ta sirf enni ke assi sama ser ohde aakhe lag jaiye.

Sukhmani sahib Bani ch ik pankti aa
"Prabh bhave ta patit udhare"

Rabb da patit nu v udar dinda, par kidda? Patit nu pavitar kar, oss te mehar kar osnu change raah paake osda v udar kar dinda.

thanks veerji .....eda de thread paunde reha karo

rano ji aa shabad sunn lao
translation is here.....ee translation ch kujj kammia ne ..but still gud any way i think it will helpDnwsrI mhlw 4 ]
Dhanaasaree, Fourth Mehl:
ieCw pUrku srb suKdwqw hir jw kY vis hY kwmDynw ]
The Lord is the Fulfiller of desires, the Giver of total peace; the Kaamadhaynaa, the wish-fulfilling cow, is in His power.
so AYsw hir iDAweIAY myry jIAVy qw srb suK pwvih myry mnw ]1]
So meditate on such a Lord, O my soul. Then, you shall obtain total peace, O my mind. ||1||
jip mn siq nwmu sdw siq nwmu ]
Chant, O my mind, the True Name, Sat Naam, the True Name.
hliq pliq muK aUjl hoeI hY inq iDAweIAY hir purKu inrMjnw ] rhwau ]
In this world, and in the world beyond, your face shall be radiant, by meditating continually on the immaculate Lord God. ||Pause||
jh hir ismrnu BieAw qh aupwiD gqu kInI vfBwgI hir jpnw ]
Wherever anyone remembers the Lord in meditation, disaster runs away from that place. By great good fortune, we meditate on the Lord.
jn nwnk kau guir ieh miq dInI jip hir Bvjlu qrnw ]2]6]12]
The Guru has blessed servant Nanak with this understanding, that by meditating on the Lord, we cross over the terrifying world-ocean. ||2||6||12||

wah ji wah