True or false, Sikism is

True or false, Sikism is:

1. a man made movement.

2. in essence is a martial movement.

3. all its followers r Hindu converts.

4. is a 'lite' version of hinduism

5. If Guru nanak Dev ji is eternal then how can he be reincarnated?

6. Can sikhs provide conclusive proof, that the 9 gurus after Guru Nanak Dev ji weren't a reincarnation of him? Theoretically this is possible if u follow the principle if not the logic of reincarnation!

7. Sikhism is a nepotistic movement as all the 10 Gurus were closely related 2 each other.

8. ****

9. Sikhs are insignificant in 2days world & survive on past glories.

10. Sikh future resides in Bangra music & excessive alcohol consumption & sale.

11. Sikh contribution 2 d world has been NIL, in any sphere of human advancement.

12. siksim bought nothing new 2 world that which hadn't already existed in Islam or hinduism.

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na hun tu sanu dase ga sikhism ki lai ke aye world wich

menu ik gal samja do.. Sara saal hindu rola pohnde ke sikh hindu ne ..
Jidan hawaer huni kise nu chak dinde ..fir sikh atwadi ban jande
Fir haware huni hindu ehda kyun nahi kehnde ?
Dar lagda ?

New ki ki eh sikh ch oh baad ch dasdi arunna devi

1. a man made movement.
more than one man ...as every other movement on this earth ...except mythology

2. in essence is a martial movement.
not untill you are tested by fire (patshai 5)

3. all its followers r Hindu converts.
muslims too .... mian meer

4. is a 'lite' version of hinduism
hinduism itself dont know what version it is ?
gurbani on other hand demotivate hindu rituials

5. If Guru nanak is eternal then how can he be reincarnated?
who said that ? lol

6. Can sikhs provide conclusive proof, that the 9 gurus after Guru Nanak weren't a reincarnation of him? Theoretically this is possible if u follow the principle if not the logic of reincarnation!
how can two even three incarnations be present at same time? who even told you this lol

7. Sikhism is a nepotistic movement as all the 10 Gurus were closely related 2 each other.

not really ...first four not at all
8. Sikh martial history is over-egged coz if Sikhs were all that & not just full of hot-air then y didn't they avenge wot happened 2 them in 1984?
its been just 30 years......mass murders of sikhs have been happening since the time of meer manu ....wait

9. Sikhs are insignificant in 2days world & survive on past glories.
PM of india is a sikh

10. Sikh future resides in Bangra music & excessive alcohol consumption & sale.
true

11. Sikh contribution 2 d world has been NIL, in any sphere of human advancement.
kind of true... but if 4000 year old religion hasant done anything ...no big deal
12. siksim bought nothing new 2 world that which hadn't already existed in Islam or hinduism.[/QUOTE]
sikhsim redefined hinduism and islam ...nothing in the world is new....every thing is already here......

ik mahaj hai jo thread read kr k comment krn ch vishwas krda baki tn rula pan da hi kam krde ne..


1. a man made movement.
more than one man ...as every other movement on this earth ...except mythology



2. in essence is a martial movement.
not untill you are tested by fire (patshai 5)

3. all its followers r Hindu converts.
muslims too .... mian meer

4. is a 'lite' version of hinduism
hinduism itself dont know what version it is ?
gurbani on other hand demotivate hindu rituials

ohde ch ki hain oh tn hindu religous books ch v kai rituals nu demotivate kita hai..

5. If Guru nanak is eternal then how can he be reincarnated?
who said that ? lol

6. Can sikhs provide conclusive proof, that the 9 gurus after Guru Nanak weren't a reincarnation of him? Theoretically this is possible if u follow the principle if not the logic of reincarnation!
how can two even three incarnations be present at same time? who even told you this lol

7. Sikhism is a nepotistic movement as all the 10 Gurus were closely related 2 each other.

not really ...first four not at all

first four nhi c but last six tn c, and Guru gobind singh ji da parivar khatm ho gya c lari ch tn ohna ne , agge guru gaddi Granth sahib ji nu de diti..

8. Sikh martial history is over-egged coz if Sikhs were all that & not just full of hot-air then y didn't they avenge wot happened 2 them in 1984?
its been just 30 years......mass murders of sikhs have been happening since the time of meer manu ....wait

eh point smjh nhi aaya,


9. Sikhs are insignificant in 2days world & survive on past glories.
PM of india is a sikh

eh tn bad luck hai india da, ,militry da Head banaya hunda tn phyada v hunda.


10. Sikh future resides in Bangra music & excessive alcohol consumption & sale.
true

11. Sikh contribution 2 d world has been NIL, in any sphere of human advancement.
kind of true... but if 4000 year old religion hasant done anything ...no big deal

12. siksim bought nothing new 2 world that which hadn't already existed in Islam or hinduism.[/QUOTE]
sikhsim redefined hinduism and islam ...nothing in the world is new....every thing is already here......

---> sikhism ne janeu nu uthar k kirpan pa lai, jada fark nhi hai..
Old time ch Hindu bodi rakhde c, sikhs me ohnu pag nal cover kar liya.
Nanak ji thirth yatra te jana mana kita c, is lai sikhs ne apne thirth bana le..Golden Temple and Hemkunt Sahib ji Sikhs religious place ne,

1. a man made movement.
more than one man ...as every other movement on this earth ...except mythology



2. in essence is a martial movement.
not untill you are tested by fire (patshai 5)

3. all its followers r Hindu converts.
muslims too .... mian meer

4. is a 'lite' version of hinduism
hinduism itself dont know what version it is ?
gurbani on other hand demotivate hindu rituials

ohde ch ki hain oh tn hindu religous books ch v kai rituals nu demotivate kita hai..

yaar promote jayada kardian ....tusi app seyane aa ..
5. If Guru nanak is eternal then how can he be reincarnated?
who said that ? lol

6. Can sikhs provide conclusive proof, that the 9 gurus after Guru Nanak weren't a reincarnation of him? Theoretically this is possible if u follow the principle if not the logic of reincarnation!
how can two even three incarnations be present at same time? who even told you this lol

7. Sikhism is a nepotistic movement as all the 10 Gurus were closely related 2 each other.

not really ...first four not at all

first four nhi c but last six tn c, and Guru gobind singh ji da parivar khatm ho gya c lari ch tn ohna ne , agge guru gaddi Granth sahib ji nu de diti..
yeah but satta and balwand gurus de parallel hoe ne ...ohna di bani v darz aa SGGS ...it was kind of pre determined that gobind singh is the last GURU as command of sikhs were given to panj payaras by him

8. Sikh martial history is over-egged coz if Sikhs were all that & not just full of hot-air then y didn't they avenge wot happened 2 them in 1984?
its been just 30 years......mass murders of sikhs have been happening since the time of meer manu ....wait

eh point smjh nhi aaya,
every movement needs some time to build.... Holocaust of sikhs has been done thrice before....sikhs need to learn from the mistakes of 84....just wait...movement would build up..thats how society works

9. Sikhs are insignificant in 2days world & survive on past glories.
PM of india is a sikh

eh tn bad luck hai india da, ,militry da Head banaya hunda tn phyada v hunda.
hahahahaha...point hae

10. Sikh future resides in Bangra music & excessive alcohol consumption & sale.
true

11. Sikh contribution 2 d world has been NIL, in any sphere of human advancement.
kind of true... but if 4000 year old religion hasant done anything ...no big deal

12. siksim bought nothing new 2 world that which hadn't already existed in Islam or hinduism.[/quote]
sikhsim redefined hinduism and islam ...nothing in the world is new....every thing is already here......

---> sikhism ne janeu nu uthar k kirpan pa lai, jada fark nhi hai..
Old time ch Hindu bodi rakhde c, sikhs me ohnu pag nal cover kar liya.
Nanak ji thirth yatra te jana mana kita c, is lai sikhs ne apne thirth bana le..Golden Temple and Hemkunt Sahib ji Sikhs religious place ne
janam safal karn de attitude ton hemkunt jana yaan darbar sahib jana te gaal aa sikhi ch
people at fault ....lack of strategic approach ....lets all contribute

ABhar24 said:

ik mahaj hai jo thread read kr k comment krn ch vishwas krda baki tn rula pan da hi kam krde ne..


1. a man made movement.
more than one man ...as every other movement on this earth ...except mythology



2. in essence is a martial movement.
not untill you are tested by fire (patshai 5)

3. all its followers r Hindu converts.
muslims too .... mian meer

4. is a 'lite' version of hinduism
hinduism itself dont know what version it is ?
gurbani on other hand demotivate hindu rituials

ohde ch ki hain oh tn hindu religous books ch v kai rituals nu demotivate kita hai..

5. If Guru nanak is eternal then how can he be reincarnated?
who said that ? lol

6. Can sikhs provide conclusive proof, that the 9 gurus after Guru Nanak weren't a reincarnation of him? Theoretically this is possible if u follow the principle if not the logic of reincarnation!
how can two even three incarnations be present at same time? who even told you this lol

7. Sikhism is a nepotistic movement as all the 10 Gurus were closely related 2 each other.

not really ...first four not at all

first four nhi c but last six tn c, and Guru gobind singh ji da parivar khatm ho gya c lari ch tn ohna ne , agge guru gaddi Granth sahib ji nu de diti..

8. Sikh martial history is over-egged coz if Sikhs were all that & not just full of hot-air then y didn't they avenge wot happened 2 them in 1984?
its been just 30 years......mass murders of sikhs have been happening since the time of meer manu ....wait

eh point smjh nhi aaya,


9. Sikhs are insignificant in 2days world & survive on past glories.
PM of india is a sikh

eh tn bad luck hai india da, ,militry da Head banaya hunda tn phyada v hunda.


10. Sikh future resides in Bangra music & excessive alcohol consumption & sale.
true

11. Sikh contribution 2 d world has been NIL, in any sphere of human advancement.
kind of true... but if 4000 year old religion hasant done anything ...no big deal

12. siksim bought nothing new 2 world that which hadn't already existed in Islam or hinduism.

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sikhsim redefined hinduism and islam ...nothing in the world is new....every thing is already here......

---> sikhism ne janeu nu uthar k kirpan pa lai, jada fark nhi hai..
Old time ch Hindu bodi rakhde c, sikhs me ohnu pag nal cover kar liya.
Nanak ji thirth yatra te jana mana kita c, is lai sikhs ne apne thirth bana le..Golden Temple and Hemkunt Sahib ji Sikhs religious place ne,[/QUOTE]

tu vi ohna cho hi hai auro

main smjhiya nhi DP kihna di gal kr riha ahi..

and eh thoughts RnP ch kafi din to chl rehi dicussion to baad mere mind ch aai c..
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---> sikhism ne janeu nu uthar k kirpan pa lai, jada fark nhi hai..
Old time ch Hindu bodi rakhde c, sikhs me ohnu pag nal cover kar liya.
Nanak ji thirth yatra te jana mana kita c, is lai sikhs ne apne thirth bana le..Golden Temple and Hemkunt Sahib ji Sikhs religious place ne,[/QUOTE]

ABhar24 said:

main smjhiya nhi DP kihna di gal kr riha ahi..

and eh thoughts RnP ch kafi din to chl rehi dicussion to baad mere mind ch aai c..
k
---> sikhism ne janeu nu uthar k kirpan pa lai, jada fark nhi hai..
Old time ch Hindu bodi rakhde c, sikhs me ohnu pag nal cover kar liya.
Nanak ji thirth yatra te jana mana kita c, is lai sikhs ne apne thirth bana le..Golden Temple and Hemkunt Sahib ji Sikhs religious place ne,

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Jad char bande kise nu maran lagde fir janeu naal dooje bande de tote nahi hunde mere veer
Kirpan naal ho sakde bus tikhi hove poori

ABhar24 said:

1. a man made movement.

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what proof there is that any of the other Religion prophets did any miracles or actually said what is being propagated? All we have are stories and writings told by others many years later. At least in Sikhism, the writings themselves are authentic writings from Gurus themselves. Not something which was written later on by others.there are 10 version of bible in world which one is true?
Religion is often described as a "way of life" or a life stance.not by miracle or magic prophets or saints..Sikhism is only Movement which is for everyone not only for sikhs ,,SARBAT DA BHALA

ABhar24 said:

2. in essence is a martial movement.

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it is for self defense,that was need of time, bcoz of that marital movement sikhs defeted Mughals ,,go and read history and then tell me how many innocent people killed by martial sikhs

ABhar24 said:

3. all its followers r Hindu converts.

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). There is no factual evidence to back this up. A certain percent were definetly muslim (possibly 15-20%]So the gurus and panj piyares had ancestors that were hindu? So what! Jesus had jewish ancesotrs. He (Jesus) started a new faith Christianity. The same analogy can be drawn with sikhs and hindus. These individuals became sikhs because they REJECTED the beliefs of Hinduism.
OK so all Pakistanis Islamic followeres were hindu before,,so you call them Hindu or hindu nation?if not to them why to sikhs?

ABhar24 said:

4. is a 'lite' version of hinduism

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educate yourself about Sikhism's CORE THEOLOGY and PHILOSOPHY.Sikhism REJECTS hindu holy texts.Hindu Gods. Hindu holy sites.if Sikhsim is lite version of Hinduism then why Gurbani reject existence of Hindu gods[ram,krisan and other lords]

ABhar24 said:

5. If Guru nanak Dev ji is eternal then how can he be reincarnated?

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i did not get your question,,i think guru ji s principles and philosophy are eternal ,Guru ji exist in SGGS,Right now SGGS is 11th guru means SGGS guru ji si jot hi aa;

ABhar24 said:

6. Can sikhs provide conclusive proof, that the 9 gurus after Guru Nanak Dev ji weren't a reincarnation of him? Theoretically this is possible if u follow the principle if not the logic of reincarnation!

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guru amardas ji was 3rd Guru and Guru angad dev ji was 2nd guru,,but Guru amardas ji were born before Guru Angad dev ji..in this way the reincarnation idea does not make any sense to me,
all guru s were one Jot,means their philosophy was same i think

ABhar24 said:

7. Sikhism is a nepotistic movement as all the 10 Gurus were closely related 2 each other.

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if sikhsim is a nepotistic movement then why Guru Nanak dev ji s sons were not even Sikhs? why in SGGS there is not only gurbani of gurus?why there is gurbani of Different caste bhagats and peoples?
it is about teaching of Guru,their caste does nt matter..

ABhar24 said:

9. Sikhs are insignificant in 2days world & survive on past glories.

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there are 26 millons sikhs are in world,and there is are not sikh beggers,they believe in hard work.but there are 100 millons Hindus and you know how many beggers are in india? at least sikhs are not burden on this world,sikhs are 0.40% of world and sikhs are serving the world more than their population,59,000 plus Gurudwaras serve langar, free of charge, to over 60 lakh people every day!is nt glory?and wait sikhism is future Relgion..so what you want in 500 yeras sikhs world de 80% hone chahide si? Sikhism NEVER USES FORCE TO SPREAD IT's IDEOLOGY.but islam ,Hindusim,,

ABhar24 said:

10. Sikh future resides in Bangra music & excessive alcohol consumption & sale.

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same thing apply to Hindusim and other religons,,Drugs are not only future of Sikhs it is future if world

ABhar24 said:

11. Sikh contribution 2 d world has been NIL, in any sphere of human advancement.

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Sikhs are doing how much they can,,there were mass genocide of sikhs in past,,sikhs did not even get time to write their history,in 500 years sikhs were busy in mughals,britisher, and hindu wars.SGGS is dedicated to the advancement of Human race too,only technology is not comfort,spirituality matters bro

ABhar24 said:

and eh thoughts RnP ch kafi din to chl rehi dicussion to baad mere mind ch aai c..
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acha mainu lagda internet to aaye ne..I think Topix.com..main eh question hor websites v kyi waar read kite ne

Yaar Punjabi said:

if sikhsim is a nepotistic movement then why Guru Nanak dev ji s sons were not even Sikhs?

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Say who

Yaar Punjabi said:

acha mainu lagda internet to aaye ne..I think Topix.com..main eh question hor websites v kyi waar read kite ne

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main sirf is thought di gal kiti c.

---> sikhism ne janeu nu uthar k kirpan pa lai, jada fark nhi hai..
Old time ch Hindu bodi rakhde c, sikhs me ohnu pag nal cover kar liya.
Nanak ji thirth yatra te jana mana kita c, is lai sikhs ne apne thirth bana le..Golden Temple and Hemkunt Sahib ji Sikhs religious place ne,


baki swal tn main ik site te dekhe te main kiha thora tusi is chiz te v discuss kar lavo..

ABhar24 said:

True or false, Sikism is:

1. a man made movement.
Movement are started by a Man, but is made by spiritucality, sacrifices and bravery of many men. Not only sikhism, even chirstianity is started by one man.

2. in essence is a martial movement.
Yes, proud to be martial along with spiritual, social and well-wisher of humanity.

3. all its followers r Hindu converts.
You are ignorant....need to study better. Many muslims converted to Sikhs. North Indian Hindus are converts.

4. is a 'lite' version of hinduism
Another proof you are ignorant.........other please provide your basis for this statement???

5. If Guru nanak Dev ji is eternal then how can he be reincarnated?
Guru Nanak never claimed to be reincarnation....

6. Can sikhs provide conclusive proof, that the 9 gurus after Guru Nanak Dev ji weren't a reincarnation of him? Theoretically this is possible if u follow the principle if not the logic of reincarnation!
Mahaj cleared this point.......this is again another proof of your ignorance....
It's for ppl like you Naamdev wrote "Hindu anna, turk kaana, dohaa te gyani syana"...........

7. Sikhism is a nepotistic movement as all the 10 Gurus were closely related 2 each other.
again ignorant comment............first 4 Gurus are not related.

8. ****

9. Sikhs are insignificant in 2days world & survive on past glories.
Again stupidity.........Gen Shabeg Singh, Gen Arora were heros of 71 war.
Sikh regiment single handedly won the khemkaran sector in 1965, when Indian army generals ordered to back down and leave area till Beas.
Battle of Saragarhi is not past.......
Bhagat Singh, Babbar Akali is not past......
Sant Jarnail Singh Khalsa Bhindranwale is not past........
Bhai Sukha and Jinda taking revenge from Gen. Vaidya is not past....
Assasination of Indira Gandhi is not past......
Jarnail Singh reporter from Delhi throwing shoe on Home Minister is not past......


10. Sikh future resides in Bangra music & excessive alcohol consumption & sale.
lol........tu jyotish aa jo bhavikhwani kar ti.........Sikhs future lies in Khalistan..........
11. Sikh contribution 2 d world has been NIL, in any sphere of human advancement.
Dr. Narinder Kapany, founder of fiber optics....
Harbhajan Singh Yogi was founder of 3HO, providing human life peace to many humans in western world.
Your PM is Sikh.
United Sikhs, KhalsaAid are International Sikh groups who serve humanity in places where Natural calamities kill humanity.
Thode utrakhand ch v Sikha ne hi langar layye c, kehna ni c chaunda par sach aa.....thode hindu sadhua ne te marya hoya di lassha to v lut-khoh kiti.......sharam karo .....pani ch dubb marro.....
12. siksim bought nothing new 2 world that which hadn't already existed in Islam or hinduism.
Everything exists in this world, nothing can be brought from outside.......

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aa lo chak jawab........akritghan............etthe allah hu allah hu karde hone c tu je sikh naa hunde......allah hu koi maari gal nahi par teri aaukat dass raya tainu

ABhar24 said:

main sirf is thought di gal kiti c.

---> sikhism ne janeu nu uthar k kirpan pa lai, jada fark nhi hai..
Old time ch Hindu bodi rakhde c, sikhs me ohnu pag nal cover kar liya.
Nanak ji thirth yatra te jana mana kita c, is lai sikhs ne apne thirth bana le..Golden Temple and Hemkunt Sahib ji Sikhs religious place ne,


baki swal tn main ik site te dekhe te main kiha thora tusi is chiz te v discuss kar lavo..

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I want to make an observation. Jeh ehda de hi sawaal kise Sikh ne puche hunde tah ohnu separatist label karan ch mint ni lagna c.

Lol pehlan ah 22 di fad k ""SUNNAT"" karo,kio k sikha di contribution nil aa fer bitha k daso tuhade dade pad-dadde di v edan hi sunnat honi c j sikha di contribution nil hundi.

Je sikh na hunde taan tuhade "NANKE" v ni hone c. Think deeply on this.

^^ lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
thread close karo hun post of da year lol

Mahaj said:

10. Sikh future resides in Bangra music & excessive alcohol consumption & sale.
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reply of 10th point only.... baakiya de jawab den di wi koshish kranga...

It is Punjabi culture, not the sikh culture..
Bhangra, Gidha are punjabi dances, jiwen hindus de various dances aa,, es ch ki problem hai ???

baaki je gall kariye alcohol consumption & sale di tan mein ikk gall notice kitti hai, jo pichle kujh years ton dekh reha,, thekke de bahar mostly bhaiya tabka hunda,, jihna nu hindu kehnde aa sikh nhi..

ikk example dinna meri hi family da - when i was in 8th, odon tak mere dada ji, DAD, Mere chacha, taya, ohna de donno bete, mere nana g te teeno mama g sharab peende c, par ajj di date ch eh saare sharab chadd chukke aa, te sirf mera ikk mama aje wi sharab pinda,, n jehdi sab ton wadia gall hai, ehna da koi wi bacha, means next generation koi nasha nhi kardi... te 2 member (my dad n mama g) are amritdhari from last 13 -14 years.


means during 8th - 8 family heads sharabi c
today - out of those 8 heads ajj sirf ikk mama sharab peenda te next generation almost 14 mundya cho koi wi sharab nhi peende
@Mahaj @*Sippu* @Dhillon @ABhar24 @pps309 @chakde.fatte

chakde.fatte said:

Lol pehlan ah 22 di fad k ""SUNNAT"" karo,kio k sikha di contribution nil aa fer bitha k daso tuhade dade pad-dadde di v edan hi sunnat honi c j sikha di contribution nil hundi.

Je sikh na hunde taan tuhade "NANKE" v ni hone c. Think deeply on this.

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