Re: Sikhi is Hijacked
Manush please give us more gaiyaan. You are ocean of knowledge.
Please give us what is original rehat mariyaada if the one we have is British Made? Can you post it? Share your wealth of knowledge and make every Sikh (oh forgive me, we are HINDUs) realize their root.
If you say India is a free country and there is nothing wrong with what you see on top...than whatever we are doing..why does it appear wrong to you? Why do you make it your business?
For these people, India is a free country, they can do whatever they like "nothing is wrong" And for any matter related to Sikhs...you shout out loud on the social media sites...and spread your fake Giyaan...trying to connect us to Snatam Dharma, Hindu Dharma and our tradition British made. The reason is...your fake Giyaan is only for SIKHS...not for anyone else. And your Giyaan is all from hearsay baseless lies, biased books and manipulated history. You have now completely contradicted yourself.
Je Tainu thori bohot sharaam hai hun...ta murke comment na kari kissi vi Singh Sher Di post par. Putt Tera Sohda Lagna Hun...Gaadi Tainu Parlokh Di Charna Jaldi Hi
Re: Sikhi is Hijacked
The only maryada a sikh is to follow is dat wich d guru's gave us in d form of the Guru Granth. D gurus nvr wrote any rehat-maryada
dat is seperate from d guru-granth. What U kno as Sikh Rehat Maryada is a committee work. A committee of british lyalists was
formed by the British to write dat text. The British left a legacy dat has eaten away at d intellect n character of Sikhism.
D british did everything to alter Sikhism as it existed so as ensure it conformed to their new British Raj-accommodating perception.
Max Arthur Macauliffe, who is regarded today by many western Sikhs as being a great scholar and historian wrote :
‘It is admitted that a knowledge of the religions of the people of India is a desideratum for the British officials who administer its
affairs and indirectly for the people who are governed by them so that mutual sympathy may be produced. It seems, at any rate
politic to place before the Sikh soldiery their Guru’s prophecies in favor of the English and the texts of their sacred writings which
foster their loyalty.’
The Sikh Religion’,1909, M.A. Macauliffe, Preface xxii
D main objective of d british was to inculcate loyalty within Sikhs for the British Raj.
Now Pakistan does d same to inculcate loyalty within Sikhs towards Pakistan.
Pakistan succeeded with bhinderawalle n company.
Re: Sikhi is Hijacked
British knew how Loyal Sikhs were to their Religion and their way of life. The British knew that the Sikh people will never betray their Guru's, are loyal to their code of conduct, and these types of people are credible people. The Sikhs will never betray the British because the Sikhs are people of higher value and morals. Even the current sikh rehat maryada doesn't say "Thou shall love British" It emphasise to be a better Sikh
We know British have tried to do many wrong things in Sikhsim intially, but they had very minimum success.
First being was Maharaja Duleep Singh (at the age of 14) conversion to Christianity. So did all Sikh accepted Christ? NO..
Maharaja Duleep Singh was re-initiated to Sikhi later on.
I asked you for the original rehat maryada if the one we have is British made. Show it to us.
The preface you have shown is poorly written. But yes we Sikhs know what British have tried to do...but to say they were successful in their manipulations. They were not.
After many failures, the British knew Sikhs cannot be changed. M.A. Macauliffe job was to construct the bridge between the British and Sikhs...so the Sikhs accept British as their Friends...not enemy. It was very important for British to have Sikhs on their side.
Please Manush...remove your RRS nikkar off your head
Please produce proper proof between Pakistan and Bhindrawala.
From now on please paste the whole thing..mr. copy and paste
The freedom of women and their emancipation from the tyranny of the parda, may be inferred from the manner in which Bhai Budha received Mata Ganga the wife of Guru Arjan, from Guru Amar Das's refusal to receive a rani who had visited him when she was closely veiled, and from Kabir's address to his daughter-in-law.
The high moral and enlightened teachings of the Gurus, their prohibition of the heinous crime of infanticide, and other injunctions for the public advantage will be found or understood from the composition of the Gurus and the Bhagats which we give in these volumes.
The Hindu practice of the concremation of widows was forbidden by the Gurus; though this was not generally known at the time of Lord William Bentinck, who had sufficient courage to issue an ordinance against it.
The Gurus most powerfully and successfully attacked the caste system and the Hindu belief in impurity and defilement in many necessary and harmless acts of domestic life.
It is admitted that a knowledge of the religions of the people of India, is a desideratum(important, pre-requisite) for the British Officials who administer its affairs and indirectly for the people who are governed by them so that mutual sympathy may be produced (Dears Sikhs, We have knowledge of your great Guru's teaching and believe us, we also think like you). It seems, at any rate, politic(sensible) to place before the Sikh soldiery(people) their Guru's prophecies in favour of the English and the texts of their sacred writings which foster their loyalty.
"M.A. Macauliffe is saying we should convey to the Sikh brothers that we British also think alike on social issues so that we can be their friends and win Sikh's loyality"
Learn to understand English properly
To sum up some of the moral and political merits of the Sikh religion: It prohibits idolatry, hypocrisy, caste exclusiveness, the concremation of widows, the immurement of women, the use of wine and other intoxicants, tobacco-smoking, infanticide, slander, pilgrimages to the sacred rivers and tanks of the Hindus; and it inculcates loyalty, gratitude for all favours received, philanthropy, justice, impartiality, truth, honesty, and all the moral and domestic virtues known to the holiest citizens of any country.
A movement to declare the Sikhs Hindus, in direct opposition to the teaching of the Gurus, is widespread and of long duration. I have only quite recently met in Lahore young men claiming to be descendants of the Gurus, who told me that they were Hindus, and that they could not read the characters in which the sacred books of the Sikhs were written. Whether the object of their tutors and advisers was or was not to make them disloyal, such youths are ignorant of the Sikh religion, and of its prophecies favour of the English, and contract exclusive social customs and prejudices to the extent of calling us Malechhas, or persons of impure
"Again The author is referring to that Sikh thinking toward treatment of women and do not follow Hindu practices are in Favor of English because Sikhs & British think alike. Sikhs Gurus were great thinkers of their times and were far ahead of Hindus. The Sikhs matched like the British on social issues. Sikhs were not backwards like Hindus"
And here let me remark that the recognition of Panjabi as an official or optional official language in the Panjab, instead of the alien Urdu, would be a most powerful means of preserving the Sikh religion. Panjabi is the mother tongue of all natives of the Panjab, be they Sikhs, Hindus, or Muhammadans. If it were recognized as an official or optional official language, Sikhs would not have to resort to books written in foreign languages for religious instruction and consolation, and the exalted ethical instruction of the Granth Sahib would be open to all classes of His Majesty's subjects in the Panjab.
Give me a solid proof of Bindrawala and Pakistan connection. It was only after the Hindu Government attacked Sikh Shrines all over Punjab and butchered Sikhs on the streets of New Delhi that the Sikhs militancy movement started. ISI is not to blame if your own house in not in order. Wouldn't Indian RAW jump on this sort of Golden Opportunity in Pakistan? you bet they will. Look at Baluchistan, look at the state of Pakistan...RAW, CIA to blame for everything.
MY Dear Sikh Sangat, do not believe in this man Manush. He is a copy & paste Idiot. He only brings in a small quote and leaves behind the whole message in all his post to manipulate and alter this beautiful religion.
Re: Sikhi is Hijacked
The rehat maryada U hv is d only rehat maryada, n is a committee work
A british appointed committee of loyal sikh who loved carrying gori's mem-sahib's shoes.
N why, till abt 6 yrs ago d rehat maryada accepted even mona's as sikh till it was changed.
With every new committee ther is some change in d rehat maryada.
Dat rehat-maryada is a bad joke.
coz ur british sikhi, which today luk more like paki-salafi-sikhi, is feeling d weight
n getting crushed under d heavy boot of sanatan-sikh-dharma.
U guys r always going to b chronic losers.