Should a Turban be called "Headwear"?

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No. A turban is an essential part of Sikh identity. 2 50.00%
No. Moreover, a turban should be called "dastar," not "turban." 1 25.00%
No. Calling a turban "headwear" is a veiled attempt to insult Sikhs 0 0%
Some turbans are fashion statements. Therefore it would not matter. 0 0%
There are many ethnic styles of turbans. Some of them are just that, headwear. 0 0%
Of course. Why the fuss and worry over words? A turban is worn on the head. 1 25.00%
No opinion. 0 0%
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Old 28-Jun-2012
Yaar Punjabi
Should a Turban be called "Headwear"?

Should a turban be called “headwear”?

Late last year, the Manurewa Cosmopolitan Club barred a turban-wearing community leader - Karnail Singh - under a policy which bans entry to anyone wearing headwear, even for religious reasons.

The matter went to the Human Rights Commission in January and it was agreed that, depending on the outcome of a meeting last weekend, the issue may return to the commission. Well, that meeting decided no relaxing of the rules for anybody.

As you might imagine, the Sikh community is determined to fight this through the Human Rights Review Tribunal. It's the second time in two years the club's had to defend itself: previously it had banned a Muslim international student in a headscarf.

Brian Rudman (NZ Herald) has taken up the cudgel, writing: 'Intolerant social club stuck in racist past'. He cites the on-going global battle over the burqa as relevant to this situation, and also uses various incidents of racism from the 1920s-50s: these illustrations are a rather crude attempt to muddy the waters and slur the Club's intentions.

But this is not racism. The club did not say: you can't enter... because you are a Sikh. It said: you can't enter... wearing headwear. The no-hats rule came from a past era, when good manners decreed one did not wear one's fedora inside (and yes, from the same era as quoted above).

If the members vote for the rule to remain, who are we to complain? It is after all a PRIVATE club, and I have a sneaky suspicion that the law has an exemption for private clubs. This may yet become an interesting test case though...

Old 28-Jun-2012
Re: Should a Turban be called "Headwear"?

above incident cannot be regarded as a racist act, as it is a private club, they have their own code of conduct
turbans v kayi taraah di hundiya ne
afghani v bannde ne te kayi hor faith de lok v turban bannde ne,
mere saab nal dastar v theek aa te j turban v akhya jaave te koi marra ni
but dastar akhn nal lokaan nu sikh te hor faiths ch differentiate karna easy ho je ga

Old 29-Jun-2012
Re: Should a Turban be called "Headwear"?

It's a private club, and if they don't allow you....then fine......
talk to them and tell your POV, if they still don't allow then don't go there next time, join some other club that suits you

If there is no club at all, make one of yours

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