Ghar Vapsi - Sikhi

Dhillon · Jan 3, 2015

Now, Sikh ?ghar wapsi? in Akali turf: RSS ?reconverts? 40 Christian families | The Indian Express

RSS is reconverting ex-sikhs back to Sikhi and Akal Takht don't want them back.

Eh ki ho reha :-?

KARAN · Jan 3, 2015

yr hun rss wale sikha de himaiti honge.. aap e sochla bhala.. punjab bachya c, ethe ehoja kamm krva ke ehna fer rola krvana, pta ohna nu role aala kamm cheti ho janda ethe.. utto o budhi di gall sunle kehndi old age pension lag ju mtlb ohnu lalach hi dita ehna conversion lyi..

te kyi var menu lgda tenu vi shanti ni pasand unp te :hahaha

Singh-a-lion · Jan 3, 2015

Meinu taan sala eh darama hale tak smjh ni lagga,,jehda jidar janda jaan deo,,,religious freedom aa,,,

Hun dhillo kahe ohne sunat karoni,,taan sada ki janda. Kara lave its his choice,,
Je fer dhillo 2-4 saal baad kahe dobara hinduism cha jana. We cant stop him. Dharam aappo apni khed

I m singh. Its my choice.

Dhillon · Jan 3, 2015

Could be complicated, dharmender warge viah karan nu musalman ban Gaye, kall nu kahu ghar vapsi karni. Fer hema malini ki karu.

Christian missionaries ne gareeba de nyane school bheje, gareeba de ilaaj karaye. Hunn matlab nikkal gaya ta ghar vapsi.

Singh-a-lion · Jan 3, 2015

Kuch paun layi kuch kohna penda,, divorce kehde marz di dawa aa,,,

Seyane khende hunde aa,,

Jada ghar firan wala kutta bhukha hi rehnda ,,

Ess krke bhindrawala sardaar khenda hunda c,
Hindu pakka hindu bande,,muslim pakka muslim bane te sikh pakka sikh bane

Eme na kuttea wangu ghar ghar firi jao,palle kuch ni pena

Sadhu · Jan 4, 2015

Those who had converted to chritianity r being brought back home. No problem with that.
Many wer branded as Mazhabi sikh, meaning sikh by religion and not by race or caste.
They wer disappointed by sikhism n had embraced christianity. They r being brought back.
Ther shud b no problem with that bcoz d sikh cant keep their flock together.

N only conversions to hinduism r being questioned.
When dey converted to christianity no sikh raised a voice.
Bcoz dint want d chooda-chamars in d first place.
They shudn't b complaining now.

N all dis dera business i Punjab is actually ot that bad.
Christian missionary groups hate d dera's bcoz d dera's
r seen as an obstacle by d christian missionaries.
I don't kno why d sikh hate d dera's.

D sikh shud ask themselves why d lower castes r running away from sikhism.

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userid114437 · Jan 4, 2015

^^^Everyone have religious freedom,,
Anyone Can go away from any religion, why we ask some one and waste our time.

We never killed anyone to change religion. As mugals did,,
Or as a hindu dal saying now everyone will be hindu by 2021.
Wht if some one dont want too,,,may b dey will kill him/her or will say leave india.

Dhillon · Jan 4, 2015

Manush said:
D sikh shud ask themselves why d lower castes r running away from sikhism.

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more like running around from budhism to islam to sikhi to Christianity in search of equality.

ลgǝи†.47 · Jan 5, 2015

I think everyone needs to Enrole themselves to "GHAR WAPSI" programme to be a F#%ing HUMAN again.!

No humanity what so ever. Saare apas ch ladi jande

Sadhu · Jan 6, 2015

ลgǝи†.47,
Religion is always going to b a problem.
D bigger problem is when we try finding cures ind same religions dat r a problem in d first place.
If I hv strong my opinions abt sikhism it's bcoz I'm a sikh (I know nobody will believe me coz I don't
act like a parrot....)
Any way all I hv to say is dat sikhism too has actually failed.

D guru's wanted to start a religion which will b abt insaniyat etc. n ther will b no differences.
But all dat d Guru's succeded in doing is creating one more group. Ther used to b hindu's n
muslims fighting each other. Now we hv hindu's, muslims, and sikh fighting each other.
Courtesy the guru's. I ask this. Where did the Guru's succeed??
They actually created more difeerences.

N wher d guru's failed, U n I r unlikely to succeed in creating a religion called Humanity
wher all will sit together n do satsang peacufully. Just as religion is d opium of d masses,
The dream of universal brotherhood is crack for ppl like U n me.

Now returning back to dis ghar-vapsi BS all I will say is dat every conversion is BS.
But three churches hv signep to demanding a ban on ghar-vapsi.
Only ghar-vapsi, not on christians converting ppl thru inducements.
The Promise of a heaven dat christian missionaries make is also inducement.
Isn't it?

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VIP_FAKEER · Jan 6, 2015

RSS doing this stunt in Punjab to make Sikh feel that RSS is not a threat. OH ta Sikhi wich dubara bandde leh ke aaah rahi hai. Oh saadi dhusman nahi...sago sadi sikhi di chinta hai. Its an illusion. Sugar coated poison.

ลgǝи†.47 · Jan 8, 2015

Manush, I know where you're coming from. I get it completely, everyone is following their religions but that following is not actually based on what the religious books are teaching but preachers. A teacher can teach you A for APPLE which is right and can also teach you A for ARMED, so the preachers could be doing it wrong. Interpretation of something can be dangerous if not done right

Sadhu · Jan 8, 2015

ลgǝи†.47 said:
Manush, I know where you're coming from.

Why don't U tell me where.
I think I come from monkeys. Every one came from ther. Even Guru Nanak.

ลgǝи†.47 said:
A teacher can teach you A for APPLE which is right and can also teach you A for ARMED,
so the preachers could be doing it wrong. Interpretation of something can be dangerous if not done right.

It's just a convenient argument. Every-one says that. Dat d interpretation is wrong.
Soem say religion is not a fault, it's d ppl. Again, convenient.
The truth is religions wer created by Men. Mayb those those who created them wer wrong.
Why can't they b. Weren't they HUmans?
But no, U will say they wer God-sent. C'mom.

Who said Jesus ws d only begotten son of God??
God Didn't say dat. Jesus himself said this.
N Mohammad is Allah's prophet?
Allah didn't say this. Mohammad himself said that.
N who said, Whenever Guru Nanak spoke it was Akal Purakh speaking??
The Akal Purakh didn't d say this. Guru Nanak himself said this.
Says Nanak, I speak as He causes me to speak. pg.1331

So U see. Scriptures r not God sent. They were written by humans. They can b wrong.
Stop saying religion is not to b faulted. Every religion will always b open to interpretations.
What did d guru's think?? Ppl will follow scriptures obediently??
If dats what dey thot I think dey wer naive, n romantics.
Human being is a complicated species, n had to make complicated decisions.

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ลgǝи†.47 · Jan 9, 2015

Manush said:
Why don't U tell me where.
I think I come from monkeys. Every one came from ther. Even Guru Nanak.

It's just a convenient argument. Every-one says that. Dat d interpretation is wrong.
Soem say religion is not a fault, it's d ppl. Again, convenient.
The truth is religions wer created by Men. Mayb those those who created them wer wrong.
Why can't they b. Weren't they HUmans?
But no, U will say they wer God-sent. C'mom.

Who said Jesus ws d only begotten son of God??
God Didn't say dat. Jesus himself said this.
N Mohammad is Allah's prophet?
Allah didn't say this. Mohammad himself said that.
N who said, Whenever Guru Nanak spoke it was Akal Purakh speaking??
The Akal Purakh didn't d say this. Guru Nanak himself said this.
Says Nanak, I speak as He causes me to speak. pg.1331

So U see. Scriptures r not God sent. They were written by humans. They can b wrong.
Stop saying religion is not to b faulted. Every religion will always b open to interpretations.
What did d guru's think?? Ppl will follow scriptures obediently??
If dats what dey thot I think dey wer naive, n romantics.
Human being is a complicated species, n had to make complicated decisions.

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Haha I didn't go that far mate when I said where you're coming from. I didn't talk about evolution of the human being

you got a good point that no one knows why and how these holy books were written. I always think that this was actually to scare people from doing wrong things. To set fear in everyone's heart that your GOD is watching and will punish you for your wrong doings.

I didn't read any Holy books so I wouldn't argue with your explanations. So far your argument is making sense.

Sadhu · Jan 9, 2015

ลgǝи†.47 said:
you got a good point that no one knows why and how these holy books were written.
I always think that this was actually to scare people from doing wrong things. To set fear
in everyone's heart that your GOD is watching and will punish you for your wrong doings.

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I'll add dat If d purpose was to scare ppl from wrong-doing the purpose is lost. Ppl r hardly scared
of God. sikh practice female foeticide. Buddhists don't. Buddhists don't even believe in a God.
N luk at d extent of substance abuse among d sikh. Do dey luk like they ever felt d need to fear
dat God d SGGS talks abt?? The truth is that d veru concept of God n religious doctrines were
created by clever weaklings with gifts of Gold n land, by indigent people with stomachs lean
with hunger, as a tool for social control. The evidence allegedly provided by those who wrote
d scriptures is insufficient to prove d existence of such a God.
Ther is actually no need to postulate a maker or governor of d world.
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PunjabiBox · Feb 8, 2015

first those are not sikhs who changed there religion

Sadhu · Feb 9, 2015

those who trim their beard r nt sikh
those who colour their hair r not sikh
those who wear bindi, koka, make-up
those who do their eyebrows
those who dring whiskey
those who mention their caste in matrimonials
those who don't worship bhindrawalla
etc etc
all of dis taken in to consideration ther r hardly any sikh left in d world.
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JagdeepVirdi · Mar 11, 2015

Manush said:
ลgǝи†.47,
Religion is always going to b a problem.
D bigger problem is when we try finding cures ind same religions dat r a problem in d first place.
If I hv strong my opinions abt sikhism it's bcoz I'm a sikh (I know nobody will believe me coz I don't
act like a parrot....)
Any way all I hv to say is dat sikhism too has actually failed.

D guru's wanted to start a religion which will b abt insaniyat etc. n ther will b no differences.
But all dat d Guru's succeded in doing is creating one more group. Ther used to b hindu's n
muslims fighting each other. Now we hv hindu's, muslims, and sikh fighting each other.
Courtesy the guru's. I ask this. Where did the Guru's succeed??
They actually created more difeerences.

N wher d guru's failed, U n I r unlikely to succeed in creating a religion called Humanity
wher all will sit together n do satsang peacufully. Just as religion is d opium of d masses,
The dream of universal brotherhood is crack for ppl like U n me.

Now returning back to dis ghar-vapsi BS all I will say is dat every conversion is BS.
But three churches hv signep to demanding a ban on ghar-vapsi.
Only ghar-vapsi, not on christians converting ppl thru inducements.
The Promise of a heaven dat christian missionaries make is also inducement.
Isn't it?

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Dude I don't know who u are and u can't blame any guru of any religion cause neither hindu nor Sikh or any other religion actually follow there forefather ... Its complete fault of people's not any guru ..... Basic of Sikhism are didn't followed by Sikhs, Evan shri ram ji eat lipped berry of barbaric .. Then why there are too many cast in Hindu ... Main thing is that human being is responsible for every fault not any guru

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